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Box A Rox
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If there wasn't billion if money funneled into the medical industry the prices would drop.  When you force 100% to dump billions into medicine to pay for 50% to use in, the medical industry prices there services based on the supply of money not the number of customers.  Whether it auto insurance or health insurance, both have driven the price of service up to the point that 99% of the people cannot afford it without insurance.  You take that money out and repairing your bumper from an accident goes from $1000 to $500.  The extra money in the system from the safe drivers wouldn't be there.


Empty words from a man WITH HEALTH INSURANCE.  Cissy is one of those "do as I say, not as I do" people.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Empty words from a man WITH HEALTH INSURANCE.  Cissy is one of those "do as I say, not as I do" people.


I have health insurance because the insurance industry distorts the price of medicine. Did you not understand my previous post?  Insurance drives the price of medicine up to the point you HAVE to buy their product.  You remove the premiums of those that do not use their insurance, and the price goes down.  

I have a family plan which is approximately $15k per year.  Over the past 5 years, I probably used at the most $1000 worth of services.  That's a net of $74k in the risk pool being priced into other services and salaries for insurance company administrators(and the million dollar CEO salaries).  If I continued this trend from age 20 to 40, that would be $300k into the system and $8k out.  That's $292k in my savings by 40 and not into the pockets of corporate insurance companies.

Your claim is that people are not disciplined at responsible enough to manage their own money, and that the government or employer MUST manage it for you.

There is no such thing as a free lunch box, it sounds like you believe we(the collective) must pay an administrator to pay for your lunch for you, like mommy and daddy did.


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I have health insurance because the insurance industry distorts the price of medicine. Did you not understand my previous post?  Insurance drives the price of medicine up to the point you HAVE to buy their product.  You remove the premiums of those that do not use their insurance, and the price goes down.  

I have a family plan which is approximately $15k per year.  Over the past 5 years, I probably used at the most $1000 worth of services.  That's a net of $74k in the risk pool being priced into other services and salaries for insurance company administrators(and the million dollar CEO salaries).  If I continued this trend from age 20 to 40, that would be $300k into the system and $20k out.  That's $280k in my savings by 40 and not into the pockets of corporate insurance companies.

Your claim is that people are not disciplined at responsible enough to manage their own money, and that the government or employer MUST manage it for you.

There is no such thing as a free lunch box, it sounds like you believe a we(the collective) must pay an administrator to pay for your lunch for you, like mommy and daddy did.


Yadda Yadda Yadda...
Most presidents, republican or democrat since Ike have been promising Universal Health Care for all
Americans.
There is no actual 'competition'... no 'market incentive' for health insurance companies and they
like it that way.  Obama care ended all that.  In the past if you wanted to compare two different
health insurance plans, there was no practical way to do it.  Each insurance company offered different
coverage, different co pays, different deductibles and different coverage from all the rest.  Doing so kept
it impossible for anyone to actually compare... killing competition.

Under Obama care, all insurance companies have to give a price for each plan that is like the same plan
from it's competitors.  For the first time in history, Americans can COMPARISON SHOP between health
care plans.  
The FREE MARKET has been restored to Health Insurance.  (Wonder why the Republicans are fighting
AGAINST free market health care?)




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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The FREE MARKET has been restored to Health Insurance.  (Wonder why the Republicans are fighting
AGAINST free market health care?)


HAHAHAHAHA!!!

This is so painfully stupid I have to laugh.  A free market for a product you are forced to buy or face penalty.  Or one of those free markets where the government mandates what coverage MUST be offered in every plan.  You don't want birth control in you coverage?  TOO BAD, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.  

In a sane world this is called C-O-L-L-U-S-I-O-N or a R-A-C-K-E-T.  


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I have health insurance because the insurance industry distorts the price of medicine. Did you not understand my previous post?  Insurance drives the price of medicine up to the point you HAVE to buy their product.  You remove the premiums of those that do not use their insurance, and the price goes down.  

I have a family plan which is approximately $15k per year.  Over the past 5 years, I probably used at the most $1000 worth of services.  That's a net of $74k in the risk pool being priced into other services and salaries for insurance company administrators(and the million dollar CEO salaries).  If I continued this trend from age 20 to 40, that would be $300k into the system and $8k out.  That's $292k in my savings by 40 and not into the pockets of corporate insurance companies.

Your claim is that people are not disciplined at responsible enough to manage their own money, and that the government or employer MUST manage it for you.

There is no such thing as a free lunch box, it sounds like you believe we(the collective) must pay an administrator to pay for your lunch for you, like mommy and daddy did.


BINGO!!! and now they have 'mandates' of healthcare that will be tracked......like a dog getting rabies shots



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Which State Has the Worst Healthcare System?
Hint:
(Most of 'em are Red States)



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America’s Health Care System Ranks Last



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Here are 9 things many Americans just don’t understand —
compared to the rest of the world


~1. Universal Healthcare Is Great for Free Enterprise and Great for Small Businesses
~2. Comprehensive Sex Education Decreases Sexual Problems
~3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense in 2015
~4. Adequate Mass Transit Is a Huge Convenience
~5. The Bible Was Not Written by Billionaire Hedge Fund Managers
~6. Learning a Second or Third Language Is a Plus, Not a Character Flaw
~7. Union Membership Benefits the Economy
~8. Paid Maternity Leave Is the Norm in Most Developed Countries
~9. Distrust of Oligarchy Is a Positive

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/0.....e-rest-of-the-world/


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