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102 Things NOT To Do If You Hate Taxes


So, you’re a TeaBagger that hates taxes?
Well, since you do not like taxes or government, please kindly do the following.

1. Do not use Medicare.
2. Do not use Social Security
3. Do not become a member of the US military, who are paid with tax dollars.
4. Do not ask the National Guard to help you after a disaster.
5. Do not call 911 when you get hurt.
6. Do not call the police to stop intruders in your home.
7. Do not summon the fire department to save your burning home.
8. Do not drive on any paved road, highway, and interstate or drive on any bridge.
9. Do not use public restrooms.
10. Do not send your kids to public schools.
11. Do not put your trash out for city garbage collectors.
12. Do not live in areas with clean air.
13. Do not drink clean water.
14. Do not visit National Parks.
15. Do not visit public museums, zoos, and monuments.
16. Do not eat or use FDA inspected food and medicines.
17. Do not bring your kids to public playgrounds.
18. Do not walk or run on sidewalks.
19. Do not use public recreational facilities such as basketball and tennis courts.
20. Do not seek shelter facilities or food in soup kitchens when you are homeless and hungry.
21. Do not apply for educational or job training assistance when you lose your job.
22. Do not apply for food stamps when you can’t feed your children.
23. Do not use the judiciary system for any reason.
24. Do not ask for an attorney when you are arrested and do not ask for one to be assigned
to you by the court.
25. Do not apply for any Pell Grants.
26. Do not use cures that were discovered by labs using federal dollars.
27. Do not fly on federally regulated airplanes.
28. Do not use any product that can trace its development back to NASA.
29. Do not watch the weather provided by the National Weather Service.
30. Do not listen to severe weather warnings from the National Weather Service.
31. Do not listen to tsunami, hurricane, or earthquake alert systems.
32. Do not apply for federal housing.
33. Do not use the internet, which was developed by the military.
34. Do not swim in clean rivers.
35. Do not allow your child to eat school lunches or breakfasts.
36. Do not ask for FEMA assistance when everything you own gets wiped out by disaster.
37. Do not ask the military to defend your life and home in the event of a foreign invasion.
38. Do not use your cell phone or home telephone.
39. Do not buy firearms that wouldn’t have been developed without the support of the US
Government and military. That includes most of them.
40. Do not eat USDA inspected produce and meat.
41. Do not apply for government grants to start your own business.
42. Do not apply to win a government contract.
43. Do not buy any vehicle that has been inspected by government safety agencies.
44. Do not buy any product that is protected from poisons, toxins, etc…by the Consumer
Protection Agency.
45. Do not save your money in a bank that is FDIC insured.
46. Do not use Veterans benefits or military health care.
47. Do not use the G.I. Bill to go to college.
48. Do not apply for unemployment benefits.
49. Do not use any electricity from companies regulated by the Department of Energy.
50. Do not live in homes that are built to code.
51. Do not run for public office. Politicians are paid with taxpayer dollars.
52. Do not ask for help from the FBI, S.W.A.T, the bomb squad, Homeland Security,
State troopers, etc…
53. Do not apply for any government job whatsoever as all state and federal employees
are paid with tax dollars.
54. Do not use public libraries.
55. Do not use the US Postal Service.
56. Do not visit the National Archives.
57. Do not visit Presidential Libraries.
58. Do not use airports that are secured by the federal government.
59. Do not apply for loans from any bank that is FDIC insured.
60. Do not ask the government to help you clean up after a tornado.
61. Do not ask the Department of Agriculture to provide a subsidy to help you run your farm.
62. Do not take walks in National Forests.
63. Do not ask for taxpayer dollars for your oil company.
64. Do not ask the federal government to bail your company out during recessions.
65. Do not seek medical care from places that use federal dollars.
66. Do not use Medicaid.
67. Do not use WIC.
68. Do not use electricity generated by Hoover Dam.
69. Do not use electricity or any service provided by the Tennessee Valley Authority.
70. Do not ask the Army Corps of Engineers to rebuild levees when they break.
71. Do not let the Coast Guard save you from drowning when your boat capsizes at sea.
72. Do not ask the government to help evacuate you when all hell breaks loose in the country
you are in.
73. Do not visit historic landmarks.
74. Do not visit fisheries.
75. Do not expect to see animals that are federally protected because of the Endangered
Species List.
76. Do not expect plows to clear roads of snow and ice so your kids can go to school and
so you can get to work.
77. Do not hunt or camp on federal land.
78. Do not work anywhere that has a safe workplace because of government regulations.
79. Do not use public transportation.
80. Do not drink water from public water fountains.
81. Do not whine when someone copies your work and sells it as their own. Government
enforces copyright laws.
82. Do not expect to own your home, car, or boat. Government organizes and keeps all titles.
83. Do not expect convicted felons to remain off the streets.
84. Do not eat in restaurants that are regulated by food quality and safety standards.
85. Do not seek help from the US Embassy if you need assistance in a foreign nation.
86. Do not apply for a passport to travel outside of the United States.
87. Do not apply for a patent when you invent something.
88. Do not adopt a child through your local, state, or federal governments.
89.Do not use elevators that have been inspected by federal or state safety regulators.
90. Do not use any resource that was discovered by the USGS.
91. Do not ask for energy assistance from the government.
92. Do not move to any other developed nation, because the taxes are much higher.
93. Do not go to a beach that is kept clean by the state.
94. Do not use money printed by the US Treasury.
95. Do not complain when millions more illegal immigrants cross the border because there
are no more border patrol agents.
96. Do not attend a state university.
97. Do not see any doctor that is licensed through the state.
98. Do not use any water from municipal water systems.
99. Do not complain when diseases and viruses, that were once fought around the
globe by the US government and CDC, reach your house.
100. Do not work for any company that is required to pay its workers a livable wage,
provide them sick days, vacation days, and benefits.
101. Do not expect to be able to vote on election days. Government provides voting
booths, election day officials, and voting machines which are paid for with taxes.
102. Do not ride trains. The railroad was built with government financial assistance.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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DO NOT FORCE US TO PAY TAXES AND I GUARANTEE MANY WILL BE MORE THEN WILLING TO NOT USE MANY OF THOSE SERVICES. LIBERALS ARE SCARED THAT MANY CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT ALL OF THAT AND PULL THEM AWAY FROM THE GOVERNMENTS TIT, LIBERALS NEED US MORE THEN WE NEED THEM AND THEY KNOW IT.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I don't hate taxes. I hate the horribly high taxes destroying my city and forcing people out of their homes, just to lavish money on connected people and provide a very comfortable living for a dangerous cop who pointed a gun in a 17 year old's face, etc. etc.
I pay my bills. I resent having my money used to pay for luxuries I go without, for other people. Go drive by one of the housing projects and look at some of the cars parked there. I resent paying to subsidize high salaries for people who then look down on people like me, and use my money to make Schenectady over in hopes of attracting some more of their snobby friends, while my neighborhood goes to Hell. We've all got serious water problems that are expensive to fix. After paying our high taxes and paying for repairs exacerbated by the city's neglect, we don't have money left over to sit down and enjoy the "vibrant" downtown. We have jobs and bills.
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DO NOT FORCE US TO PAY TAXES AND I GUARANTEE MANY WILL BE MORE THEN WILLING TO NOT USE MANY OF THOSE SERVICES. LIBERALS ARE SCARED THAT MANY CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT ALL OF THAT AND PULL THEM AWAY FROM THE GOVERNMENTS TIT, LIBERALS NEED US MORE THEN WE NEED THEM AND THEY KNOW IT.


Good Henry... Pick the ones you want to do with out.  Since you have no use for the police...
Why not prisons to start with... then roads and water.  LEt me know how well you're doing with felons
walking the streets, with no govt supported roads... only private roads, and with water only from your
own well or that you collect in a rain barrel.  

Lets see... that leaves 99 more things you need to stop using... unless, you're all talk but really one of those
sucking on the govt tit!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Good Henry... Pick the ones you want to do with out.  Since you have no use for the police...
Why not prisons to start with... then roads and water.  LEt me know how well you're doing with felons
walking the streets, with no govt supported roads... only private roads, and with water only from your
own well or that you collect in a rain barrel.  

Lets see... that leaves 99 more things you need to stop using... unless, you're all talk but really one of those
sucking on the govt tit!


Taxes should be voluntary, if you don't pay you don't play, many like firefighter are a good thing to me because I see it as insurance, others I have no use for.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Taxes should be voluntary, if you don't pay you don't play, many like firefighter are a good thing to me because I see it as insurance, others I have no use for.


So as I've always posted... YOU'RE SELFISH.  You want what benefits you but screw everyone else.
If you need help after a flood, you want help.  But if you live on high ground...screw all your neighbors.
If you need a firetruck to save your home... "HELP!  HELP! Send the taxpayer funded fire truck to Henry's
house"
  Other wise... screw everyone else.  Let them fight their own fires.

You want what benefits you, BUT ONLY YOU.  YOU WANT OTHERS TO PAY FOR YOUR FIRETRUCK, BUT
WON'T HELP PAY FOR THEIR SERVICES THAT YOU DON'T USE.

Look up selfish in the dictionary:
selfish  

1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits,
welfare, etc., regardless of others.
2. characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself:


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Taxes should be voluntary, if you don't pay you don't play, many like firefighter are a good thing to me because I see it as insurance, others I have no use for.


I'd be curious to understand how a country can run and exist if taxes were voluntary.
What percentage of the people do you think would voluntarily pay taxes (my guess is less than 1%)....surely not the rich or the corporations.
Yah, taxes are too high because of a Government that is out of control...they don't look out for the people they represent.
But VOLUNTARY...really!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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I'd be curious to understand how a country can run and exist if taxes were voluntary.
What percentage of the people do you think would voluntarily pay taxes (my guess is less than 1%)....surely not the rich or the corporations.
Yah, taxes are too high because of a Government that is out of control...they don't look out for the people they represent.
But VOLUNTARY...really!!!!


Its simple, things like firefighters can be privatized, many already are, you pay a yearly fee and they will help when you call. Some city units will go outside their zones but those people have to pay to get service, if they decide not to pay then they're not covered. Not all tax funded programs and services are bad but I think even you would agree not all of them are needed, those services that people don't use they should not have to pay for, but again you don't pay you don't get the service. Box says I'm greedy but he is the one who wants my money for services I don't use or want, he is the greedy one. He also says I'm selfish, maybe if you consider putting yourself and your family ahead of others but who here wouldn't.  If I got $100 left to my name my family comes 1st, when I have more I usually donate or help others. Its not greed or selfishness it is survival for many.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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So since I have no children I school should I pay school taxes?
If I don't that means those with children will pay more.
Should people pay based on how many children they have in school?
It's a simple formula to spread the cost across more people to lower the individual cost.
Voluntary taxes, like I said, would not work....who would voluntarily pay?


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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So since I have no children I school should I pay school taxes?
If I don't that means those with children will pay more.
Should people pay based on how many children they have in school?
It's a simple formula to spread the cost across more people to lower the individual cost.
Voluntary taxes, like I said, would not work....who would voluntarily pay?


If you don't have kids then no you shouldn't be forced to pay school taxes, if you wish you could donate your money but it shouldn't be forced out of your earnings. Those who put their kids in school would have to pay, it would actually be better because schools would have to compete lowering the cost for the parents, more private schools would open and a better quality of education would be provided. Like any service you get what you pay for. You asked who would voluntary pay taxes, many people if they were smart. If they think fire protection is worth the $75 a year they will pay it. If they want SS they will pay into it, if they don't they will need to find other means but not at the cost of others.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I'm fine with paying taxes for the higher level of service I expect from my choice to live in a city. People without paid fire departments end up paying alot more in fire insurance. People without city water have to be bothered with wells. For the past several DECADES, I have been paying more and more for less and less sevice, while others enjoy high levels of service without paying.
I don't mind paying for the schools, because the entitlement is to the INDIVIDUAL, and I had the very same entitlement myself. I do mind paying for asystem that allowed an insane terrorist janitor to accrue a level of compensation of $6,000 bucks per month from a jail cell. How did that help a child become literate enough to fully participate in society?
When those we pay our taxes to fail to use those taxes for our benefit, that is taxation without representation, because people like Chuck Schumer righton down to McCheese are working against our interests. Taxation without representation is treasonous, IMO.
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If you don't have kids then no you shouldn't be forced to pay school taxes, if you wish you could donate your money but it shouldn't be forced out of your earnings. Those who put their kids in school would have to pay, it would actually be better because schools would have to compete lowering the cost for the parents, more private schools would open and a better quality of education would be provided. Like any service you get what you pay for. You asked who would voluntary pay taxes, many people if they were smart. If they think fire protection is worth the $75 a year they will pay it. If they want SS they will pay into it, if they don't they will need to find other means but not at the cost of others.


You are speaking of a utopia, and it sounds really good....but it doesn't work.
You can't get people to buy car insurance
You can't get people to buy home owners or renters insurance
People who don't pay for fire departments...if their house is on fire, does that mean it burns and no one comes?
We can go on and on....unfortunately, that is our society and we can only do our best to live within it while trying
to change it and improve it. Government needs to be run like a corporation, but reality is they operate like it's their
free bank account...especially since most of them pay a lot less taxes than you and I and earn a lot more.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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You are speaking of a utopia, and it sounds really good....but it doesn't work.


It worked before why wouldn't it work today, I would love the shot to at least try it to prove it could be done. Box said if I don't like paying taxes don't use these, fine with me I would be happy to take my taxes back. But the thing is box doesn't want us to use it but he still wants our money, he doesn't want us to have the option of opting out of services for a cut in our taxes.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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when did it work before and where?


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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OMG!!!!!







When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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