Yes... The Republicans laugh at Paul... but he's still one of them. Kind of the crazy uncle who comes to dinner on Thanksgiving... no one wants him there but they can't really throw him out.
only because they prefer status quo with the dems......back and forth back and forth back and forth
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
On Civil Liberties, Comparing Obama With Bush Is Easy — And Mostly Wrong
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So while facile comparisons between the Obama and Bush administrations now appear every day in the media, they are quite misleading. Uttered by Republicans and their mouthpieces on Fox News, such arguments are hypocritical as well.
Consider the single most important surveillance controversy of the Bush era, namely the warrantless wiretapping undertaken on the president’s orders. In December 2005, the New York Times revealed that Bush had authorized the NSA to monitor phone calls and emails originating in U.S. territory, without obtaining warrants as required by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA. (That’s why it was called “warrantless.”) For the first time since Watergate – and the intelligence reforms resulting from that true scandal — the U.S. government had eavesdropped on Americans’ conversations without seeking the permission of a judge.
Only months before, Bush had claimed publicly that he was a steward of civil liberties and that his agents always got a court order before implementing a wiretap. But his administration had been using warrantless wiretaps ever since the 9/11 attacks.
Those trespasses against liberty went considerably further than the collection of metadata by the NSA. No reports indicate that the Obama administration violated existing law to eavesdrop on any American — or listened to any calls without the sanction of the special FISA court.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Firefox plug-in warns users of NSA surveillance Get short URL Published time: June 14, 2013 19:43 Edited time: June 15, 2013 02:23
Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day? The government is likely logging even the most mundane day-to-day computer habits of millions of Americans, but there’s a way to stand up against surveillance while also rocking out.
According to leaked NSA documents published by The Guardian last week, the United States National Security Agency is conducting dragnet surveillance of the communications of Americans, regularly receiving phone records for millions of Verizon customers while also being capable of accessing the conversations that occur over Facebook, Google and several other major Internet names through a program called PRISM. Now a 28-year-old artist and developer from Brooklyn, New York has found a fun way of warning computer users about potential government surveillance, and he’s incorporated one of the best-selling rock albums ever in the process.
Justin Blinder released a plugin for the Web browser Firefox this week, and he’s already seeing a positive response in the press if not just based off of the idea alone. His “The Dark Side of the Prism” browser extension alerts Web surfers of possible surveillance by starting up a different song from Pink Floyd’s 1973 classic “The Dark Side of the Moon” each time a questionable site is crossed.
Blinder told the Guardian that he built the program over the course of four hours with the hopes he could "create some sort of ambient notification that you are on a site that is being surveiled by the NSA."
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
They cant open a letter without probable cause/warrent But the letter has a mailing adress and a return adress.
just like the 'adresses' attached to your phone calls and emal..... Just like paper mail. No one can read or listeh to it without a warrent.
So now a cop can take my cell phone if he feels like it, and take all my contacts list and call history off of it and I can't do anything about it? That's great.
How about if I send my mail Fed Ex, does Fed Ex have to give the mailing address, return address and the weight of the package to the government, just so they have a file of who I've been mailing?
So now a cop can take my cell phone if he feels like it, and take all my contacts list and call history off of it and I can't do anything about it? That's great.
How about if I send my mail Fed Ex, does Fed Ex have to give the mailing address, return address and the weight of the package to the government, just so they have a file of who I've been mailing?
Im not a lawyer. The topic has been mainly about the government ' spying '. And collecting information. You put your return adress on the mail and you probably put your name too. I think the post office photografs every piece of mail. Is that spying?
The same thing is going on with electronic mail and phone numbers. I thought everyone knew you need a warrnt and probable cause to look inside.
I think at the end of the year when you file your taxes, by law, you should have to send in all of the years personal contact information to the NSA. You should have to send in your personal phone contact list, your email contact list, a history of your emails, texts, tweets, Facebook friends list, and internet history for the government to keep on a permanent file. The government should be able to conduct audits on people that they believe may be withholding this information, and fine and jail anybody that would be so criminal as to without this information from the government, because anybody withholding that information is probably a suspected terrorist. If the American people are so supportive of this NSA program, I see no reason to believe they wouldn't willingly comply with such a law, because it keeps us safe.
Im not a lawyer. The topic has been mainly about the government ' spying '. And collecting information. You put your return adress on the mail and you probably put your name too. I think the post office photografs every piece of mail. Is that spying? .
I put an address on an envelope so they CAN look at that information. The mail carrier needs that information to deliver the mail. I EXPECT them to look at that information.
Now if the post office is scanning my all the mail that is sent to me or that I send, and making a dossier on every American of all the mail and what type of mail and what magazine subscriptions that I have mailed to my house, YES, that is spying. If I send my mail Fed Ex, I do not expect the government to scan THAT MAIL, and keep it on a permanent file.
I put an address on an envelope so they CAN look at that information. The mail carrier needs that information to deliver the mail. I EXPECT them to look at that information.
Now if the post office is scanning my all the mail that is sent to me or that I send, and making a dossier on every American of all the mail and what type of mail and what magazine subscriptions that I have mailed to my house, YES, that is spying. If I send my mail Fed Ex, I do not expect the government to scan THAT MAIL, and keep it on a permanent file.
Geeze man. You can see i went to yates school- an i no speak english so good. But if you read up on ' mail isolation control ' ( the tecnology used to find the ricin laced letters ) then you can argue about ' what if ' all week.
And you know a cop can do whatever heshewants- but a lawyer can make the stuff disappear.
Geeze man. You can see i went to yates school- an i no speak english so good. But if you read up on ' mail isolation control ' ( the tecnology used to find the ricin laced letters ) then you can argue about ' what if ' all week.
That is different, a person doing this can write a fake return address and drop the letter into a public mail box. The only information they can get is the location where the letter was processed. Again, if letters were scanned and filed and easily composed to create a dossier tracking ALL the mail delivered or sent out of my mailbox, that is spying. That is what the NSA whistleblower is alledging is happening with your personal electronic communications.
They cant open a letter without probable cause/warrent But the letter has a mailing adress and a return adress.
just like the 'addresses' attached to your phone calls and emal..... Just like paper mail. No one can read or listen to it without a warrant.
Don't give them FACTS Sombody... it just confuses them. Give them HYPE and OPINION... for them, that's all that matters.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Don't give them FACTS Sombody... it just confuses them. Give them HYPE and OPINION... for them, that's all that matters.
Haha!
Box knows the facts of a data mining program aimed at ALL Americans that was authorized by a secret court and congress was not allowed to make public. Not surprised this falls into box's definition of FACT.
Box knows the facts of a data mining program aimed at ALL Americans that was authorized by a secret court and congress was not allowed to make public. Not surprised this falls into box's definition of FACT.
Cissy may not like it but The US Congress is allowed to make 'secret' programs as part of their legislation. Cicero can change that by electing officials who oppose such action but for now... the laws were legal when passed and those who follow those laws are within the law.
Cissy likes to whine but when it comes time to elect an opposing view... Cic stays home on election day and drinks a beer while the rest of us elect his future leaders.
He whines, he cries, he complains... then he goes for a beer! What a patriot!!!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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