Ummmm Yes you can. If the legislature passes a law on collecting phone data, and that law doesn't infringe on citizens rights... the law is "legal". "The American people were never given the details of how the law is being implemented..." but their elected officials were, as they wrote the law.
So it's legal for any person or corporation to collect all this data too?
Maybe Obama could leave the vast majority of Americans alone and concentrate scarce "safety" resources in Chicago, where kids face getting gunned down if they go outside. Grabbing rifles from non-criminals didn't do a thing to help these kids. How about in Schenectady, too. Why is safety from terrorist attacks a higher priority than safety from gang members? Don't more kids get killed from urban violence than terrorism? Why did the kids at Newtown matter more than all the kids in Chicago who died unnoticed up until that point? Does how a young person dies violently in America matter so much? There seems to be a political value placed on victims in this country.
So it's legal for any person or corporation to collect all this data too?
No-no-no!!! That isn't how fascism works!
The government pass laws that permit CERTAIN private companies to collect the personal communications of their custormers, AS LONG AS, they are willing to cooperate with the government in allowing them to access the data and use it for what they want to use it for. There are already plenty of laws on the books making eavesdropping illegal for private citizens to do on one another. The private individual is not permitted to eavesdrop on people.
I mean Christ, it is a federal offense if you go into somebody else's mailbox and deliver mail.
So what about the guy that was on the Leno show? He is an AMERICAN citizen and yet and FBI agent not only told him that our phone calls are recorded....but actually played one back for him!!! THEY ARE LYING RIGHT THRU THEIR TEETH!!!!! They're gonna need a MAJOR FALSE FLAG to get out of this one!!!
Watch these traitors run from a little harsh questioning when the constitution is brought up, this is why they wanted to keep it secret because they knew the public would be pissed. Their faces pissed me off the most, they were disgusted someone even mentioned the 4th amendment.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
...........Parents of Navy SEAL Killed in Afghan Crash File the First Suit on NSA SpyingBy Dashiell Bennett | The Atlantic Wire – 2 hrs 8 mins ago....Email0Share76
....A couple in Philadelphia has filed a class-action lawsuit against the National Security Agency and Verizon, claiming they and their phone records were targeted for surveillance because of their outspoken criticism of Barack Obama and the U.S. military. This is believed to be the first official lawsuit filed against the government and the company, since it was revealed that Verizon had been ordered to turn over phone metadata for all of its customers.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
So what about the guy that was on the Leno show? He is an AMERICAN citizen and yet and FBI agent not only told him that our phone calls are recorded....but actually played one back for him!!! THEY ARE LYING RIGHT THRU THEIR TEETH!!!!! They're gonna need a MAJOR FALSE FLAG to get out of this one!!!
Obama said nobody is listening to your calls.
They are recording them and then listening to their recordings.
The guy they never showed his body or proof of death, that Osama lmao. I guess you believe that lie that we didn't want to offend Muslims, what a joke.
WOW! Henry... You've graduated to a new low! SO what else don't you believe? ~Did the US REALLY land on the moon, or was that all done in some movie set? ~Was the 911 attacks REALLY done by Muslim Terrorists alone, or did they have help from the US govt? ~Is Barack Hussein Obamas REALLY a us citizen??? ~Is big foot REAL? ~Is Michael Jackson REALLY dead or is he like Elvis, hiding out in a swamp in Mississippi???
Please Henry... you've opened up a new side of your anti govt crazy... don't stop here. Tell us more!!!
I know that Bumbler and Senders are over the Conspiracy Edge, but I didn't realize that you were there with them.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I heard that all our data for passports was outsourced to China, back when they decided we needed a passport to travel to Canada. No one seemed concerned. US citizens need a passport to return from Canada, but if you cross the other border illegally you get rewarded. Maybe it was the enhanced driver's license and not passports, but it is still sending all our information to a communist country. If Obama wants us to trust him, why did he appoint a willing fibber to head the agency? Isn't that a head's up that he will do whatever he feels like doing and then lie to cover up? Why does he have such a grudge against Americans?
Box, looks like you went over the edge yourself. He questioned the death of bin laden and the secret burial. I understand that you take every story concocted by the government as fact even in the light of this news that the government is secretly storing private communications on a government data base.
And as the recent poll tells us, in 2007 you wouldn't have trusted ANYTHING the Bush Administration was telling you.
Box, looks like you went over the edge yourself. He questioned the death of bin laden and the secret burial. I understand that you take every story concocted by the government as fact even in the light of this news that the government is secretly storing private communications on a government data base.
And as the recent poll tells us, in 2007 you wouldn't have trusted ANYTHING the Bush Administration was telling you.
I understand Cicero that you find it hard to believe that your BFFL Anwar al-Awlaki and his beloved leader Osama Bin Laden are really dead, but I have proof... not just some US official proof, but proof from a source that you both trust and love... Al Qaeda.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I was just thinking about that last night, myself. The only proof we have is a photo of lying liars reacting to a tv show we can't see. I think Obama decided he no longer needed the Bush era ruse of "we can't find him, he's in a cave" as an excuse, so he either had bin Ladin killed, or just pretended he did, to distract from the birth certificate he just released. For the record, I don't believe the president is ineligible to hold that office, but he disseminatedthat whole foreign born myth himself.
This is how you actually try to change things. Senator Al Franken isn’t grandstanding for the press and pretending he never knew about the Patriot Act and wasn’t briefed on just how the government was using the Patriot Act. Instead, he used this opportunity wisely to call for greater transparency, within reason and with respect to national security issues.
Senator Al Franken (D-MN) issued the following statement in response to reports of the National Security Agency’s collection of phone data:
“There’s a balance to strike between protecting Americans’ privacy and protecting our country’s national security. I don’t think we’ve struck that balance. I’m concerned about the lack of transparency of these programs. The American public can’t be kept in the dark about the basic architecture of the programs designed to protect them.
“We need to revisit how we address that balance. I agree with Senator Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) that the relevant significant FISA Court opinions should be made public to the degree possible, consistent with protecting national security.”
Franken isn’t playing the head in the sand game that Speaker Boehner tried Thursday morning, and he’s not going to feign innocence and outrage like Senator Rand Paul. Nor is he going to sit back and play corporate Democrat. This is how you push for liberal transparency without sounding like you don’t care about national security.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
On June 6th, Senator Al Franken (D-MN) called for FISA Court opinions to be made public when possible, and on Tuesday, he and a panel of bipartisan Senators made good on that call. This legislation would require the Attorney General to declassify significant Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC, aka FISA Court) opinions.
Senators Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Al Franken (D-MN), Mike Lee (R-UT), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Dean Heller (R-NV), Mark Begich (D-AK), Jon Tester (D-MT), and Ron Wyden (D-OR) introduced the bill Tuesday that would offer more transparency to Americans regarding the government’s interpretation of the PATRIOT Act and Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
“Americans deserve to know how much information about their private communications the government believes it’s allowed to take under the law,” Merkley said in a statement. “There is plenty of room to have this debate without compromising our surveillance sources or methods or tipping our hand to our enemies. We can’t have a serious debate about how much surveillance of Americans’ communications should be permitted without ending secret law.”
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Maybe Obama could leave the vast majority of Americans alone and concentrate scarce "safety" resources in Chicago, where kids face getting gunned down if they go outside. Grabbing rifles from non-criminals didn't do a thing to help these kids. How about in Schenectady, too. Why is safety from terrorist attacks a higher priority than safety from gang members? Don't more kids get killed from urban violence than terrorism? Why did the kids at Newtown matter more than all the kids in Chicago who died unnoticed up until that point? Does how a young person dies violently in America matter so much? There seems to be a political value placed on victims in this country.
BINGO!!! YOU WIN THE PRIZE.....just like Shen propped up those (albeit sad situation)kids who were killed on the Northway because they were POPULAR....
Robinson rode that political wave
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Awful Large Paranoia!
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