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It was the same coverage , and it was under the ACA.  The ACA was passed in 09.  


Seriously?  I was not aware you could sign up in '09.
When I spoke with insurance companies, they said you couldn't back then,
beucase they stil ldidn't have all the details.  Even last year when I inquired
I recieved the same answer??????


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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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ObamaCare begins to pay off!



yup! they paid off all the insurance companies and the investments of your democratic 'friends that care'...and the
Reps are pretending to 'do something' but they aren't going to do anything....because in the end they have all reaped
what YOU AND I have worked for...yup...you are a wrung out washcloth...because it's legal extortion....

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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Seriously?  I was not aware you could sign up in '09.
When I spoke with insurance companies, they said you couldn't back then,
beucase they stil ldidn't have all the details.  Even last year when I inquired
I recieved the same answer??????


Try following the thread.  Box posted a WH report claiming health care costs have gone down between 2010 and 2013.  Before the EXCHANGES.  I think you are confusing the exchanges with the WH claim that costs went down prior to the exchanges.  Which obviously helped insurance company profits.  I responded with the fact my insurance went UP between 2012-2013.  Insurance cost going up and health care cost going down is only advantageous to health insurance companies .  It didn't save me money.  As I posted in the multiple articles showing insurance company profits at record levels during those years.



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it's money laundering after extortion....the government's hands are washed clean of this.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Prescription copay goes up, amount Medicare will pay for Doctors, hospitals, and procedures goes down so the end result is that insurance providers make more profit and policy holders pay higher premiums and very high deductibles. Obamas' solution to the health care problem is take away insurance policies from most of America so we can insure 15 million people who don't have insurance and still leave 30 million people uninsured.
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Try following the thread.  Box posted a WH report claiming health care costs have gone down between 2010 and 2013.  Before the EXCHANGES.  I think you are confusing the exchanges with the WH claim that costs went down prior to the exchanges.  Which obviously helped insurance company profits.  I responded with the fact my insurance went UP between 2012-2013.  Insurance cost going up and health care cost going down is only advantageous to health insurance companies .  It didn't save me money.  As I posted in the multiple articles showing insurance company profits at record levels during those years.



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Try following my question. You specifically said your insurance cost went up
and I asked how much it would go up under ACA...you said it WAS ACA.
So I have no idea what your reply is about...did your insurance go up
100% under ACA when you signed up, and when did you sign up?
Simple questions!


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Try following my question. You specifically said your insurance cost went up
and I asked how much it would go up under ACA...you said it WAS ACA.
So I have no idea what your reply is about...did your insurance go up
100% under ACA when you signed up, and when did you sign up?
Simple questions!


The ACA(Affordable Care Act) was signed into law in 2010.  My insurance went up 100% between 2012 and 2013.  The ACA is legislation that is supposed to lower insurance costs and increase medical coverage.  You don't sign up for the ACA, the ACA is a LAW, it is imposed.  

It's a pretty straight forward answer.  My insurance went up 100% after the ACA was enacted.

Lol...you think you sign up for the ACA.  I wish it was optional.


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Thank you professor Cissy...I am very aware of what ACA is and is not.

Your original comment insinuates that you insurance increased UNDER ACA or as result of ACA,
but I struggle to understand how you can make such a statement. Can you show why
ACA caused this as opposed to other factors or reasons?

Secondly, I am asking if you signed up on the marketplace, how much would your insurance go up
now for the same or better coverage?


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Your original comment insinuates that you insurance increased UNDER ACA or as result of ACA,
but I struggle to understand how you can make such a statement. Can you show why
ACA caused this as opposed to other factors or reasons?


My original comment was in response to box's WH report that claimed health care cost went down.(before the exchanges were opened). My insurance went up.  

I can make such a statement because the President and Democrats promised my insurance would go down.  That was the promise behind the reason the government is subsidizing insurance companies with billions of dollars.

I think it's funny how you defend failed legislation, and then try to put the burden on me to find other factors or reasons the presidents promises didn't pan out.  You are a statist through and through.


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Nothing I have posted is defending anything to do with the ACA.
Has nothing to do with Box's posting...it's specifically about
the posting you made of 100% cost increase under ACA.

You made a lofty claim that your insurance increased under ACA,
and I just have difficulty with that statement. Rather than showing
why your reasoning is correct, you just want to politicize it and
skirt the legitimate question being asked.

So again, what facts exist to support your comment,
and have you enrolled in ACA to see
impact and provide that comparison.


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You said he was responsible for the attack. If you didn't think so, you wouldn't have said it the way you did.


This is what I posted:
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Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event.



If GWB had prior knowledge of an imminent attack and did nothing, he could be said to be responsible
for an attack.

The NY Times says that he did have prior knowledge.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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the ONLY impact the ACA will have is the 'contractual agreement' as to what medical interventions will cost....

let's say setting a leg was $500.00

the government/insurance will now tell the docs/hospitals etc that it will cost $300.00 and you have a co-pay of $100.00
but your new insurance premium is now $200.00/month more

then there is a tariff on the medical equipment

so yes it is EXTORTION and yes we THINK it's for our own good....

SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL

like I said, AFFORDABLE is subjective.......

medical intervention
medical insurance

healthcare is not part of the equation....healthcare is taking care of yourself...THAT'S FREE

the public is too stupid to know it's mixing the terminology.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Thank You President Barack Hussein Obama!
Yet another success!
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"The U.S. and five other world powers struck a historic agreement with Iran, agreeing to
ease part of an economic stranglehold in exchange for steps aimed at capping Tehran's
nuclear program and ensuring the country's Islamist government doesn't rush to develop
atomic weapons," the Wall Street Journal reports.

"The agreement calls for Iran to stop its production of near-weapons grade nuclear fuel
--which is uranium enriched to 20% purity--and for the removal of Tehran's stockpile of
the fissile material, which is estimated to be nearly enough to produce one nuclear bomb."

"Iran, in return, will gain relief from Western economic sanctions that U.S. officials believe
will provide between $6 billion and $7 billion in badly needed foreign exchange for Tehran
over the next half-year."



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Will you say the same thing when Iran drops a nuke on Israel??
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