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Box A Rox
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Thank you, Obama- for making a funny joke out of Russia in the debates last year. It is really funny that you zinged foolish Romney when he warned about Russia as a threat. We know after the elections, you will be more flexible. But not as flexible as two of your suckholes Box and J.O. Box who KNEW what a wonderful and strong leader you would be. They bend over backwards just to kiss your azz.


As posted many times before...
Cracker Graham had nothing to post, and he posted it.  

Graham dashes into the room, takes a dump, and leaves.  


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It does appear as though Obama underestimated Putin, and Romney did not. I don't blame Obama for this whole thing, a lot of highly-placed people fell into the trap of believing that the Russians were done when their country fell apart. People who believed in something their whole lives don't let go that easily.
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Russia and friends invaded Czechoslovakia in '68.  The world survived.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Russia and friends invaded Czechoslovakia in '68.  The world survived.


It was no big deal.





"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
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Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Romney was right







http://online.wsj.com/news/art.....445170801186310.html

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Romney: The Price of Failed Leadership

The President's failure to act when action was possible has diminished respect for the U.S. and made troubles worse.

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Why are there no good choices? From Crimea to North Korea, from Syria to Egypt, and from Iraq to Afghanistan, America apparently has no good options. If possession is nine-tenths of the law, Russia owns Crimea and all we can do is sanction and disinvite—and wring our hands.

Iran is following North Korea's nuclear path, but it seems that we can only entreat Iran to sign the same kind of agreement North Korea once signed, undoubtedly with the same result.

Our tough talk about a red line in Syria prompted Vladimir Putin's sleight of hand, leaving the chemicals and killings much as they were. We say Bashar Assad must go, but aligning with his al Qaeda-backed opposition is an unacceptable option.

And how can it be that Iraq and Afghanistan each refused to sign the status-of-forces agreement with us—with the very nation that shed the blood of thousands of our bravest for them?

Why, across the world, are America's hands so tied?

A large part of the answer is our leader's terrible timing. In virtually every foreign-affairs crisis we have faced these past five years, there was a point when America had good choices and good options. There was a juncture when America had the potential to influence events. But we failed to act at the propitious point; that moment having passed, we were left without acceptable options. In foreign affairs as in life, there is, as Shakespeare had it, "a tide in the affairs of men which, taken at the flood leads on to fortune. Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries."

When protests in Ukraine grew and violence ensued, it was surely evident to people in the intelligence community—and to the White House—that President Putin might try to take advantage of the situation to capture Crimea, or more. That was the time to talk with our global allies about punishments and sanctions, to secure their solidarity, and to communicate these to the Russian president. These steps, plus assurances that we would not exclude Russia from its base in Sevastopol or threaten its influence in Kiev, might have dissuaded him from invasion.

Months before the rebellion began in Syria in 2011, a foreign leader I met with predicted that Assad would soon fall from power. Surely the White House saw what this observer saw. As the rebellion erupted, the time was ripe for us to bring together moderate leaders who would have been easy enough for us to identify, to assure the Alawites that they would have a future post-Assad, and to see that the rebels were well armed.

The advent of the Arab Spring may or may not have been foreseen by our intelligence community, but after Tunisia, it was predictable that Egypt might also become engulfed. At that point, pushing our friend Hosni Mubarak to take rapid and bold steps toward reform, as did Jordan's king, might well have saved lives and preserved the U.S.-Egypt alliance.

The time for securing the status-of-forces signatures from leaders in Iraq and Afghanistan was before we announced in 2011 our troop-withdrawal timeline, not after it. In negotiations, you get something when the person across the table wants something from you, not after you have already given it away.

Able leaders anticipate events, prepare for them, and act in time to shape them. My career in business and politics has exposed me to scores of people in leadership positions, only a few of whom actually have these qualities. Some simply cannot envision the future and are thus unpleasantly surprised when it arrives. Some simply hope for the best. Others succumb to analysis paralysis, weighing trends and forecasts and choices beyond the time of opportunity.

President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton traveled the world in pursuit of their promise to reset relations and to build friendships across the globe. Their failure has been painfully evident: It is hard to name even a single country that has more respect and admiration for America today than when President Obama took office, and now Russia is in Ukraine. Part of their failure, I submit, is due to their failure to act when action was possible, and needed.

A chastened president and Secretary of State Kerry, a year into his job, can yet succeed, and for the country's sake, must succeed. Timing is of the essence.

Mr. Romney is the former governor of Massachusetts and the 2012 Republican nominee for president.




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
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Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Scott Brown Baffled By Republican Who Benefitted From Obamacare

Scott Brown had met with Herb Richardson, a New Hampshire Republican state legislator, as Brown
is exploring a run for the state's U.S. Senate seat.

During the meeting at Richardson's home, Brown called Obamacare a "monstrosity." But Richardson
and his wife quickly interjected, according to the Democrat, saying that the ObamaCare had been
"a financial lifesaver."
http://www.newhampshirelakesandmountains.com/pdf/LAN.2014.03.19.pdf


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Hey Boxy.

Did you know that some people got rich during the financial collapse.

Just sayin'




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
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Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Russia and friends invaded Czechoslovakia in '68.  The world survived.


It was a big deal to the poor people of Czechoslovakia who were forced to live under Soviet oppression.  Many of them did NOT survive.  
It is pathetic that we have a worthless political hack with a jellyfish spine in the White House and a bumbling fool for a Secretary of State.  Due to the weakness and ineptness of this president, Putin and other tyrants around the globe have thumbed their noses at the U.S. and the civilized world and gone on a spree of mayhem, oppression and self-aggrandizement.


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Too bad we didn't have G Worst Bush as President.  He could have invaded Russia.  That would fix em!


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Too bad we didn't have G Worst Bush as President.  He could have invaded Russia.  That would fix em!


LOL!!!

Boxy forgets that W. faced down Putin in 2008 during Georgia's war with Russia.











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Too bad we didn't have G Worst Bush as President.  He could have invaded Russia.  That would fix em!


Putin wasn't emboldened to seize territory and stomp on the backs of citizens of other nations while George W. Bush was president.  
As for presidencies, Obama's presidency is only rivaled by Carter's for its ineptness at foreign policy.  


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Putin wasn't emboldened to seize territory and stomp on the backs of citizens of other nations while George W. Bush was president.  
As for presidencies, Obama's presidency is only rivaled by Carter's for its ineptness at foreign policy.  


WTF!....Putin wasn't emboldened in '08?

Have you not been reading?

Putin tried to pull the same thing in '08 with Georgia, under the same guise of 'protecting Russian citizens', as he has/is doing in the Ukraine. The only difference is that the Georgians shot back.

We made a show of force by using MILITARY (not civilian or UN) cargo planes with MILITARY personal, as well as a guided missile destroyer, to deliver humanitarian supplies to the Georgians.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/24/us-enters-georgia-with-ai_n_120930.html

Not only that, we imposed a series of sanctions on Russia for it's actions.

OFC that all changed with the 'Magical Reset Button (powered by Rainicorn™ technology) and the lifting of sanctions in 2010.

Thanks Obama!

  





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WTF!....Putin wasn't emboldened in '08?

Have you not been reading?

Putin tried to pull the same thing in '08 with Georgia, under the same guise of 'protecting Russian citizens', as he has/is doing in the Ukraine. The only difference is that the Georgians shot back.

We made a show of force by using MILITARY (not civilian or UN) cargo planes with MILITARY personal, as well as a guided missile destroyer, to deliver humanitarian supplies to the Georgians.



Buck, What are your feelings about Reagan's response to the announcement of the illegal annexation of the Golan Heights and East Jerusalem by Israel in 1980 and 1981?  No US sanctions threaten against the Israeli's.  Israel continues to build settlements on lands illegally annexed land.

Maybe Putin will return Crimea to Ukraine when Israel returns Golan and East Jerusalem to the Palestinians and Syrians.


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Buck, What are your feelings about Reagan's response to the announcement of the illegal annexation of the Golan Heights and East Jerusalem by Israel in 1980 and 1981?  No US sanctions threaten against the Israeli's.  Israel continues to build settlements on lands illegally annexed land.

Maybe Putin will return Crimea to Ukraine when Israel returns Golan and East Jerusalem to the Palestinians and Syrians.


God you can be such a dick.

Yeah...We get it...You hate Israel and the Jews....The military...Cops....Anybody wearing a McDonald's uniform.

This is also the 'Thank You President Obama!' thread, not the 'Wut you think about Reegan and da Joos " thread.





"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
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God you can be such a dick.

Yeah...We get it...You hate Israel and the Jews....The military...Cops....Anybody wearing a McDonald's uniform.

This is also the 'Thank You President Obama!' thread, not the 'Wut you think about Reegan and da Joos " thread.



Ohhhh!  I thought you were discussing foreign policy, and how presidents responded to illegally annexing land and forcing people to live under the aggressors laws.

Of course any mention of Israel annexing land would be hating Jews to you, because the people that live on the land that Israel annexed are not nearly as important as those in Georgia and Crimea.  

How compassionate of you Buck to be soooo concerned about illegal annexation of land in Crimea.  At least you are consistent with your outrage on the topic.

I can only image your outrage to the US annexation of Hawaii in 1898.



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