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No issue with your observations...it's Cissy that is up down and all around on it.


I just get a kick out of your statement that "the taxpayer" should recoup their money and consider it a "freebie" if it isn't recouped.  As if the Medicaid recipient isn't or never was a taxpayer that paid into the system to receive the benefit.

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Don't you think that if they have an estate that the money should be used to pay back what the taxpayers paid
for their medical coverage? Or are you saying it should be a freebie???


If person works from age 18 to 55 and pay taxes into the medicaid system the entire time, then suddenly gets ill and loses their job - how much did that person pay INTO the medicaid system, and is that number figured in before the government "recoups" the taxpayer money?


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I just get a kick out of your statement that "the taxpayer" should recoup their money and consider it a "freebie" if it isn't recouped.  As if the Medicaid recipient isn't or never was a taxpayer that paid into the system to receive the benefit.



If person works from age 18 to 55 and pay taxes into the medicaid system the entire time, then suddenly gets ill and loses their job - how much did that person pay INTO the medicaid system, and is that number figured in before the government "recoups" the taxpayer money?


I just a kick out of your games with words.....just not worth even making an attempt anymore.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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If they saved enough money to even have an estate, what happened to all the money they paid in taxes over that time to pay for the "safety net"?  What is the point of paying into the safety net that was supposedly to protect your health and prevent you from going broke, if you are just going to go broke anyways?  Isn't the government double dipping?  What you are saying is, once you sign up for Medicaid, everything you ever worked for belongs to the government.

I guess the solution is, if you know you are going onto Medicaid...RUN AS MUCH DEBT AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN AND CREATE AN NEGATIVE ESTATE!


Not really -anyone with an 'estate ' has a good lawyer- not from anywhere around here set up an  Asset Protection Trust .  


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....older Americans just learned their value....and the government will decide if you are too old for
certain medical 'services'......I see it everyday

here's your cake....now eat it


because now...they take your $$ first along with your 'future value'....that's called making everyone equal....

just like cicero says, don't bother saving go for the negative.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Not really -anyone with an 'estate ' has a good lawyer- not from anywhere around here set up an  Asset Protection Trust .  

Not sure an asset protection trust would help in the case of Medicaid benefits.
My understanding is that it works only for taxation, divorce and bankruptcy.


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Not sure an asset protection trust would help in the case of Medicaid benefits.
My understanding is that it works only for taxation, divorce and bankruptcy.


There are many lawyers that specialize in medicaid asset protection.


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There are many lawyers that specialize in medicaid asset protection.

Yah, went thru that with parent...not easy process. I think if I recall, they have a 7 year look-back.


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if you can't use your assets to pay for your care then why call it an asset....it's not like it's part of your body?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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On Jimmy Kimmel Live last night, he asked his audience if anyone signed up for Obamacare. No one had.
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Thank You President Barack Hussein Obama!

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Over 828,000 Californians have signed up for private coverage through the state’s online
health care exchange, state officials announced Wednesday.

“California announced Wednesday that it has beat its 2014 ObamaCare enrollment goals with roughly
five weeks left before the first sign-up period closes.”

“California’s exchange has been the most successful in the country since its launch last fall.
Eighty percent of enrollees have paid their first premium, and about one quarter are 34 years
old or younger, the system reported this week.”



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Connecticut Plans to Market Obamacare Success

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Connecticut’s health care exchange has been so successful that it plans to market its
technology and expertise by selling an “exchange in a box” to other states.

The New York Times reports that “the Obama administration has encouraged the effort,
in the hope that more states will run their own exchanges in 2015 or 2016.”
“Under the arrangement envisioned by Kevin J. Counihan, CEO of the Connecticut exchange,
a state could set policy for its exchange while buying information technology and other services
from Connecticut. Services could include determinations of eligibility, assistance with enrollment
and marketing, the operation of a telephone call center and the collection of premiums from
small businesses.”


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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having a 'window' or app to choose from and follow the directions like a lab monkey doesn't equate to good 'healthcare'

it equates to $$ access with rules.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I just spoke to a young lady today, she looked through the choices available in NY and she can't afford them. She's not one of the lottery winners who get to freeload and gloat about it. She will probably be one of the uninsured. This is a real person, not an article in the paper.
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The GOP Alternative to ObamaCare...
would increase the deficit by $74 billion and result in the loss of work-based insurance for roughly
1 million people.




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The Congressional Budget Office released its assessment of a Republican bill to change
Obamacare’s definition of full-time work to 40 hours, concluding that it would increase the deficit
by $74 billion and result in the loss of work-based insurance for roughly 1 million people.

The Hill: “The Save American Workers Act, proposed by Rep. Todd Young (R-Ind.) and touted by
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) as a top legislative priority for Republicans, would also
increase the number of uninsured by 500,000, and push about another 500,000 onto Medicaid or ObamaCare.”

Rep. Sandy Levin (D-Mich.): “This estimate reveals how dangerous the Affordable Care Act repeal
agenda is to the American people … By essentially eliminating any requirement for businesses to
contribute to the cost of health coverage, Republicans have just embraced a proposal to put
wages and benefits at risk for a million or more hard-working Americans, while substantially
increasing the deficit.”


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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