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Box A Rox
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Madam X...

Boxy knows that what the POTUS is doing is illegal and if Bush EVER did any of this, Boxy would be screaming from the rafters about 'abuse of power'

By defending his actions, Boxy says it's 'ok' for the POTUS to pick and choose what parts of the law to enact and what parts to ignore.

So, if down the road, Congress passes a ban on all 'Assault Weapons' and the POTUS is against such legislation, Boxy says it's 'ok' for the POTUS to ignore the law and order the Justice Dept. to drop and not prosecute any charges against people who own or try to buy assault weapons.






The video clearly states... "The President Is Obligated to "PHASE IN" a new law..."
and he is.  Implementing ObamaCare is the responsibility of the Executive Branch and
that's exactly what he is doing.

I keep hearing about "illegal changes" but no one will post them.

EXACTLY what is the Illegal Change?  
A 'delay' is not a Change!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The video clearly states... "The President Is Obligated to "PHASE IN" a new law..."
and he is.  Implementing ObamaCare is the responsibility of the Executive Branch and
that's exactly what he is doing.

I keep hearing about "illegal changes" but no one will post them.

EXACTLY what is the Illegal Change?  
A 'delay' is not a Change!


Obama changed the date of implementation of the minimum essential coverage.  That isn't a "delay", it's changing the implementation date that was written into the law.  Why bother writing dates into a law if it doesn't have to be followed?  It's just a recommendation at that point.

He repealed the individual mandate.LOL  Looks like he took Ted Cruz's advice.hahahahaha
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SEC. 1501. REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM ESSENTIAL COVERAGE.

‘‘SEC. 5000A. REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM ESSENTIAL COVERAGE.
‘‘(a) REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM ESSENTIAL COVERAGE.— An applicable individual shall for each month beginning after 2013 ensure that the individual, and any dependent of the individual who is an applicable individual, is covered under minimum essential coverage for such month.
‘‘(b) SHARED RESPONSIBILITY PAYMENT.—
‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—If an applicable individual fails to meet the requirement of subsection (a) for 1 or more months during any calendar year beginning after 2013, then, except as provided in subsection (d), there is hereby imposed a penalty with respect to the individual in the amount determined under subsection (c).
‘‘(2) INCLUSION WITH RETURN.—Any penalty imposed by this section with respect to any month shall be included with a taxpayer’s return under chapter 1 for the taxable year which includes such month.
‘‘(3) PAYMENT OF PENALTY. —If an individual with respect to whom a penalty is imposed by this section for any month—
‘‘(A) is a dependent (as defined in section 152) of another taxpayer for the other taxpayer’s taxable year
including such month, such other taxpayer shall be liable for such penalty, or
‘‘(B) files a joint return for the taxable year including such month, such individual and the spouse of such individual shall be jointly liable for such penalty.

https://sites.google.com/site/healthreformnavigator/ppaca-sec-1501


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Obama changed the date of implementation of the minimum essential coverage.  That isn't a "delay", it's changing the implementation date that was written into the law.  Why bother writing dates into a law if it doesn't have to be followed?  It's just a recommendation at that point.

He repealed the individual mandate.LOL  Looks like he took Ted Cruz's advice.hahahahaha

https://sites.google.com/site/healthreformnavigator/ppaca-sec-1501


Yes..."IMPLEMENTATION IS THE PRESIDENT'S RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY"...
So your complaint is that he (in your words) "changed the date of implementation"
as is his prerogative as he sees needed.  

Are you really that ignorant of how the present system works?  The Legislative branch makes the
laws, the Executive branch 'implements' the law.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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responsibility and duty means following due course of law/procedures.....

it's the HOW......not the responsibility.....

it's the responsibility and duty of a parent to clothe and feed and house their offspring....the HOW is always the debate


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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responsibility and duty means following due course of law/procedures.....

it's the HOW......not the responsibility.....

it's the responsibility and duty of a parent to clothe and feed and house their offspring....the HOW is always the debate


If you think that Obama (or any president) overstepped his authority, then please file a law suit.
The Supreme Court has ruled on these questions in the past when brought to their attention.

Don't delay... don't just sit there and type... call your congressman and senators and get something
done...
Oh wait.  You don't believe in the US Constitution or the US Congress.
Never mind!


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E.J. DIONNE, on ObamaCare
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I think there is something crazy when people say where government can’t deliver health care.
Ever heard of Medicare? Ever heard of Medicaid? And there’s a mandate to pay taxes for those
things?
This thing is complicated because President Obama chose to go for a model that is a market-oriented
model that Republicans favor, of helping people buy private health insurance. That proves
to be very complicated. But what you’re seeing already is there is an enormous appetite
among all the Americans who don’t have health insurance to buy it. And that’s what’s going
to save Obamacare. This is filling a real need in the society.

Every rich democracy in the world uses government to deliver healthcare.
France spends less per capita in government spending to cover everybody than we
spend for just Medicare and Medicaid.

So this thing can work. It needs fixes. And I think the next move by the president is to tell
Republicans, do you want to fix this or do you just want to get rid of it?


Meet The Press


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December 23, 2013, 09:18 am
Poll: ObamaCare approval drops to record low

By Peter Sullivan

Support for the Affordable Care Act has dropped five points in a month to a record low, according to a CNN/ORC poll released Monday.

The poll finds that just 35 percent of the public supports the law, compared to 40 percent in late November
The drop in support indicated in the poll could be particularly troubling to the Obama administration because almost all of it came from women, whose opposition rose from 54 to 60 percent in a month. The administration has tried to highlight advantages for women, such as free preventative care that covers mammograms.

Some of those who oppose the law, 15 percent of all respondents, continue to do so because they think it is not liberal enough. That means half of the public either supports the law or thinks it is not liberal enough.

Just 16 percent said they think their family will be better off when most of the law takes effect next year, a number essentially unchanged from earlier in the year.

Some Republicans have targeted the pledge to be able to keep one's doctor as the next assurance to be proven wrong. Still, 61 percent said they believed they can keep the same doctor.

The story is different when it comes to cost though, with 63 percent saying they believe their healthcare costs will rise under the law.
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Thank You President Barack Hussein Obama!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Riiiiiight.

These 'facts' were brought to you by wh.gov where their motto is "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.....PERIOD!"







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Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance

President Barack Obama walks out to deliver remarks on the Affordable Care Act in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington on Oct. 1, 2013.

By Lisa Myers and Hannah Rappleye
NBC News

President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.

This story has been republished here

Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”  http://investigations.nbcnews......ealth-insurance?lite
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but they KNEW it would happen.....there are 2 choices either

1. they are incompetent and 'didn't know'

or

2. they knew and just went with it and collected $$ in their portfolios.

you're the one who said the government 'fixes things' and basically they forced what people were afraid to do and that
is to 'go on strike' and stop paying their premiums.

so like sheep herders they mooooooved us along.....into the barn we have no choice to live..because 'that's what
Jesus would do'

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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New ObamaCare fees coming in 2014
By S.A. Miller and Geoff Earle

December 25, 2013 | 5:45am

The cost of President Obama’s massive health-care law will hit Americans in 2014 as new taxes pile up on their insurance premiums and on their income-tax bills.

Most insurers aren’t advertising the ObamaCare taxes that are added on to premiums, opting instead to discretely pass them on to customers while quietly lobbying lawmakers for a break.

But one insurance company, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Alabama, laid bare the taxes on its bills with a separate line item for “Affordable Care Act Fees and Taxes.”

The new taxes on one customer’s bill added up to $23.14 a month, or $277.68 annually, according to Kaiser Health News. It boosted the monthly premium from $322.26 to $345.40 for that individual.

The new taxes and fees include a 2 percent levy on every health plan, which is expected to net about $8 billion for the government in 2014 and increase to $14.3 billion in 2018.

There’s also a $2 fee per policy that goes into a new medical-research trust fund called the Patient Centered Outcomes Research Institute.

Insurers pay a 3.5 percent user fee to sell medical plans on the HealthCare.gov Web site.

ObamaCare supporters argue that federal subsidies for many low-income Americans will not only cover the taxes, but pay a big chunk of the premiums.

But ObamaCare taxes don’t stop with health-plan premiums.

Americans also will pay hidden taxes, such as the 2.3 percent medical-device tax that will inflate the cost of items such as pacemakers, stents and prosthetic limbs.

Those with high out-of-pocket medical expenses also will get smaller income-tax deductions.

Americans are currently allowed to deduct expenses that exceed 7.5 percent of their annual income. The threshold jumps to 10 percent under ObamaCare, costing taxpayers about $15 billion over 10 years.

Then there’s the new Medicare tax.

Under ObamaCare, individual tax filers earning more than $200,000 and families earning more than $250,000 will pay an added 0.9 percent Medicare surtax on top of the existing 1.45 percent Medicare payroll tax. They’ll also pay an extra 3.8 percent Medicare tax on unearned income, such as investment dividends, rental income and capital gains.        
http://nypost.com/2013/12/25/new-obamacare-fees-coming-in-2014/
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Didn't you get the memo Shadow?

All these new taxes and "fees" are going to lower the cost of health coverage for all Americans.




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