Henry is so into his GunHugger lifestyle, it's inconceivable to him that anyone would own guns and not be as crazed as he is about a shootout with his own police or military.
I used to do some target shooting, hunting and even dabbled in trap shooting. I reloaded for my shotguns and two of my rifles. Although I only occasionally do any shooting now, I still keep several guns. Why is that so impossible for Henry to believe??? If I don't fit into one of Henry's boxes, he can't believe that I exist!
Sorry to disappoint you Henry... but it's true.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
My post was a response to the post "Too bad one of the law abiding citizens wasn't carrying"...
Polls in England show that they are not interested in US style gun laws... (My guess... they'd rather keep their low homicide rate.)
Wrong what happened was the majority stripped the rights from the minority, that is the danger of a democracy
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Now, after decades of indoctrination, British citizens are disarmed from protecting themselves from these people living among them that vow to bring violence to the streets of London. The personal security of millions of Brits are dependent on the thousands of bobbies that responded 20 minutes after a fellow citizen was hacked to pieces. All while bystanders stood by and watched. Yeah, I wish America was more like Britian.
The question wasn't "does America want to be more like Britain, but does Britain want to be more like USA."
They see an armed citizen as more of a danger than a deterrent or self protection. If they aren't surrounded by guns... they don't need them to protect themselves. But don't take my word for it... look at their homicide rate. For what ever reason, they appear to be MORE SAFE unarmed, than we are ARMED.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Now, after decades of indoctrination, British citizens are disarmed from protecting themselves from these people living among them that vow to bring violence to the streets of London. The personal security of millions of Brits are dependent on the thousands of bobbies that responded 20 minutes after a fellow citizen was hacked to pieces. All while bystanders stood by and watched. Yeah, I wish America was more like Britian.
Many are now questioning their gun laws as well as the actions of the politicians after this incident, it was a wakeup call that the police and politicians can not protect them from the thugs.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Henry is so into his GunHugger lifestyle, it's inconceivable to him that anyone would own guns and not be as crazed as he is about a shootout with his own police or military.
I used to do some target shooting, hunting and even dabbled in trap shooting. I reloaded for my shotguns and two of my rifles. Although I only occasionally do any shooting now, I still keep several guns. Why is that so impossible for Henry to believe??? If I don't fit into one of Henry's boxes, he can't believe that I exist!
Sorry to disappoint you Henry... but it's true.
Please box stop, its getting pretty desperate you trying to convince us you are a gun owner, we all know the truth.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So you were posting on behalf of the British and not yourself? You should clarify that when posting.
Of course not.
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Quoted from Box A Rox My post was a response to the post "Too bad one of the law abiding citizens wasn't carrying"... Polls in England show that they are not interested in US style gun laws... (My guess... they'd rather keep their low homicide rate.)
See. I was responding to another post, offered some statistics and my opinion.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death? 1:27 PM 05/24/2013
The recent attack on a British soldier by assassins wielding meat cleavers while bystanders looked on raises the question: “Why didn’t anyone try to help the victim?”
Because British citizens are prohibited from carrying objects that could be used as “offensive weapons.”
While it is well known that Brits cannot carry guns, a lesser known law prohibits any subject of the Queen from carrying a knife of consequence, pepper spray or a stun gun.
According to the United Kingdom government website, the online storehouse of British government regulations, it is illegal to:
sell a knife of any kind (including cutlery and kitchen knives) to anyone under 18 carry a knife in public without good reason – unless it’s a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, eg a Swiss Army knife carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife, such as a Swiss Army knife)
Folding knives, regardless of blade size, with a locking mechanism are illegal in the U.K. for carry in public and are referred to as “lock knives.” According to British law, “The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years in prison and a fine of £5,000.”
Pepper spray is also illegal under section 5(1)(b) of the Firearms Act 1968, which prohibits “any weapon of whatever description designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas or other thing.”
It is illegal to import pepper spray or a stun gun because British law expressly states that pepper spray and stun guns are classified as firearms. Blow guns are classified as “offensive weapons” and are prohibited to own, except for veterinarians or registered animal handlers.
According to the UK website, “Having an offensive weapon in a public place without lawful authority or a reasonable excuse can also lead to a fine and/or up to four years in prison.”
Yup this guy was $hit out of luck and didn't have a chance (like how some want America) it must of been horrible for this guy in his last seconds on earth, being hacked to death while a crowd gathered around and instead of helping they just took pictures, not to mention not a police siren to be heard. No thanks I will remained armed and rely on myself.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Yup this guy was $hit out of luck and didn't have a chance (like how some want America) it must of been horrible for this guy in his last seconds on earth, being hacked to death while a crowd gathered around and instead of helping they just took pictures, not to mention not a police siren to be heard. No thanks I will remained armed and rely on myself.
Yes, box's collective paradise. Plenty of eye witnesses filming and interviewing the murderers. Only if he could get more Americans obedient and compliant like our chaps in Britain, we to could have a low homicide rate like Great Britain. With all those wonderful sheep standing around while the wolves slaughter them.
Last Friday the Daily Telegraph, Britain's most widely read broadsheet newspaper, issued an online poll asking members of the public which proposal they would like to see introduced as a Private Members' Bill in the UK's Parliament.
Private Members' Bills are introduced by Members of Parliament or Peers who are not government ministers.
The choices include term limits for Prime Ministers, a flat tax, a law to encourage the 'greening' of public spaces and the repealing of Britain's hand gun ban. Following the Dunblane massacre in 1996, in which 16 schoolchildren were killed, Parliament passed The Firearms Act of 1997, which essentially banned handguns for the atrocity.
But Britons seem unconvinced by the law. The proposer, known as "Colliemum" asked, "...why should only criminals be 'allowed' to possess guns and shoot unarmed, defenceless citizens and police officers?"
While the poll continues, so far over 80 percent of the 11,000+ respondents have told the Telegraph that they want to see the handgun ban repealed. The news comes as America contemplates its own new laws on gun ownership, with British talk show host Piers Morgan claiming to back a UK-style ban for the United States.
While gun crime soared after the British ban in 1997, rates of gun violence have fallen, especially in British cities, following more spending by police forces into tackling gun crime. Police in England and Wales recorded 5,911 firearms offences in 2011/12, a reduction of 42 percent compared with nine years earlier, according to the Office for National Statistics.
But statistics from the United States show that guns are used by citizens to defend themselves around eighty times more often than they are used to take a life. A recent study published in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy concluded that there is a negative correlation between gun ownership and violent crime in countries internationally, that is, “where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest."
British versus American statistics perhaps displays nothing more than one country investing more in the government response to criminality, while the other maintains a citizen-based response.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So you were posting on behalf of the British and not yourself? You should clarify that when posting.
And then there are those " concerned citizens " that post pretending that they own a gun. Sort of like " if i owned a gun this is how I would think " .
And then there are those " concerned citizens " that post pretending that they own a gun. Sort of like " if i owned a gun this is how I would think " .
I read the post 5 times, I'm still not sure what it means.
The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times. The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's influence over Conservative activists, have resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph. Even when Conservative support was shown to have slumped in the opinion polls and Labour became ascendant in them the newspaper remained loyal to the Conservatives. This loyalty continued after Labour ousted the Conservatives from power by a landslide election result in 1997, and in the face of Labour election wins in 2001 and the third successive Labour election win in 2005.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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