Pope Francis calls on Christians to accept the good works atheists perform
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Pope Francis has said that atheists should be seen as good people as long as they do good, in a move to urge people of all religions - or no religion at all - to get along.
The Catholic leader, who heads the 1.2 billion-strong Church, made his comments in the homily of his morning Mass in his residence, a daily event where he speaks without prepared comments.
He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists could be redeemed by Jesus.
"Even them, everyone," the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. "We all have the duty to do good," he said.
"Just do good and we'll find a meeting point," the pope said in a hypothetical conversation in which someone told a priest: "But I don't believe. I'm an atheist."
Pope Francis's comments are in marked contrast to his predecessor Benedict, who is reported to have left some non-Catholics feeling that he saw them as second-class believers.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Of course if you support unlimited abortion, you are not "doing good" and that applies no matter what faith you have or if you are an atheist. Supporting abortion is among the ultimate "bad works."
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
Of course if you support unlimited abortion, you are not "doing good" and that applies no matter what faith you have or if you are an atheist. Supporting abortion is among the ultimate "bad works."
Really DVOR???
Do you really think that most religions are as extremist as yours???
Pro-choice groups: American Baptist Churches-USA American Ethical Union, American Friends (Quaker) Service Committee, American Jewish Committee, American Jewish Congress, Central Conference of American Rabbis, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Council of Jewish Federations, Episcopal Church (USA), Federation of Reconstructionist Congregations and Havurot, Moravian Church in America-Northern Province, Na'Amat USA, National Council of Jewish Women, Presbyterian Church (USA), Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Union of American Hebrew Congregations, Unitarian Universalist Association, United Church of Christ, United Methodist Church, United Synagogue for Conservative Judaism
Religious groups other than denominations: Catholics for Free Choice, Episcopal Women's Caucus, Evangelicals for Choice, Jewish Women International, Lutheran Women's Caucus, North American Federation of Temple Youth, Unitarian Universalist Women's Federation, Women of Reform Judaism, Women's American ORT, Women's Caucus Church of the Brethren, Women's League for Conservative Judaism.
This also doesn't take into consideration the many who belong to a religious group but don't agree with it's extremist anti choice policy.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Do you really think that most religions are as extremist as yours???
Pro-choice groups: American Baptist Churches-USA American Ethical Union, American Friends (Quaker) Service Committee, American Jewish Committee, American Jewish Congress, Central Conference of American Rabbis, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Council of Jewish Federations, Episcopal Church (USA), Federation of Reconstructionist Congregations and Havurot, Moravian Church in America-Northern Province, Na'Amat USA, National Council of Jewish Women, Presbyterian Church (USA), Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Union of American Hebrew Congregations, Unitarian Universalist Association, United Church of Christ, United Methodist Church, United Synagogue for Conservative Judaism
Religious groups other than denominations: Catholics for Free Choice, Episcopal Women's Caucus, Evangelicals for Choice, Jewish Women International, Lutheran Women's Caucus, North American Federation of Temple Youth, Unitarian Universalist Women's Federation, Women of Reform Judaism, Women's American ORT, Women's Caucus Church of the Brethren, Women's League for Conservative Judaism.
This also doesn't take into consideration the many who belong to a religious group but don't agree with it's extremist anti choice policy.
Of course you would think that defending the Right to Life was extreme, you folks - the extreme left wing nuts - don't value any of rights actually found in Natural Law or in our Founding Documents.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
Of course you would think that defending the Right to Life was extreme, you folks - the extreme left wing nuts - don't value any of rights actually found in Natural Law or in our Founding Documents.
How true that is but they will also try to make their own rights which needs the service and money of others and they want it for free.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Of course you would think that defending the Right to Life was extreme, you folks - the extreme left wing nuts - don't value any of rights actually found in Natural Law or in our Founding Documents.
The vast majority of America is Pro Choice. The Anti Choice crew are those attempting to force their extremist religious views on the rest of us.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The vast majority of America is Pro Choice. The Anti Choice crew are those attempting to force their extremist religious views on the rest of us.
The majority wants obamacare gone, the left trying to force their extremism on the rest of us
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Thursday night on “The Colbert Report,” host Stephen Colbert marveled at the announcement by Pope Francis that there are good atheists who are loved by God.
“The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!” Francis said earlier this week.
“Folks,” said Colbert Thursday, “as America’s most famous Catholic, I am the Pope of basic cable.”
And as such, he said, he has tried to embrace the new Pope and endeavored to follow the pontiff’s example. When Francis washed the feet of the poor, Colbert said, “I sent some homeless guys through a car wash. I even sprang for the wax.”
But Wednesday’s homily from the Pope, in which he said the God even loves atheists, was apparently too much for Colbert.
“What the flock?” he demanded. “Even atheists?!”
“What’s next? The Lord redeems Lutherans?” he said. “It’s madness.”
Was all that time on his knees as an altar boy for nothing? he asked. All the standing and sitting and kneeling every Sunday? Ash Wednesday, in which, he said, that smudge on his forehead, he thought, was “the hand-stamp for Club Heaven?”
“After busting my apse in the vineyard of the Lord,” he said, “some godless good guy can just swoop in at the eleventh hour and and get redeemed? I want a refund!”
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Of course if you support unlimited abortion, you are not "doing good" and that applies no matter what faith you have or if you are an atheist. Supporting abortion is among the ultimate "bad works."
Atheism is a religion. Religion is a means of understanding our existence. Atheism fits that bill. Religion is a philosophy of life. So is atheism. Religions has its leaders. So does atheism (Nietzsche, Feuerbach, Lenin, Marx). Religion has its faithful believers, who guard the orthodoxy of the faith. So does atheism. And religion is a matter of faith, not certainty. Welcome to the religious world!
All religions set themselves apart from the crowd...... they are the pure, the faithful, all others are just 'religion.' Here again, atheism fits the bill.
The difference....... the atheism religion believe THEY are GOD!
But hey.................we'll all know when we die if there really is a GOD!!! Then we'll know for a FACT if the blood of the innocent, on the hands of the abortionists, were acceptable....or if Moses really parted the Red Sea.....or if there are really virgins waiting to be plucked.....or if Christ really rose from the dead......or if angles really exist.......or if there is really a HELL......or if there is a FINAL judgement........or if death is just 'the end'.............we'll find out soon enough.....yes?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
The vast majority of America is Pro Choice. The Anti Choice crew are those attempting to force their extremist religious views on the rest of us.
First - and you don't seem to comprehend this quite well - Morality is not something that is put to a public opinion poll. Basically you are saying - if a majority of Germans were in favor of killing Jews than that would be o.k. Or if a majority of Southerns were in favor of slavery or jim crow laws than that would be o.k.
Second - the vast majority of Americans is NOT pro-death .. certainly not in favor of unlimited abortion including late term abortion/infanticide. So sorry - you Pelosi, Tonko, Schumer, Cuomo and the whole left wing nut crowd are the extremists and far out of the mainstream.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
First - and you don't seem to comprehend this quite well - Morality is not something that is put to a public opinion poll. Basically you are saying - if a majority of Germans were in favor of killing Jews than that would be o.k. Or if a majority of Southerns were in favor of slavery or jim crow laws than that would be o.k.
Second - the vast majority of Americans is NOT pro-death .. certainly not in favor of unlimited abortion including late term abortion/infanticide. So sorry - you Pelosi, Tonko, Schumer, Cuomo and the whole left wing nut crowd are the extremists and far out of the mainstream.
I agree....but you can't legislate morality! It is a personal choice and we will all know when we die if we made the right choices.....
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Atheism is a religion. Religion is a means of understanding our existence. Atheism fits that bill. Religion is a philosophy of life. So is atheism. Religions has its leaders. So does atheism (Nietzsche, Feuerbach, Lenin, Marx). Religion has its faithful believers, who guard the orthodoxy of the faith. So does atheism. And religion is a matter of faith, not certainty. Welcome to the religious world!
All religions set themselves apart from the crowd...... they are the pure, the faithful, all others are just 'religion.' Here again, atheism fits the bill.
"The difference, the atheism religion believe THEY are GOD"!
But hey.................we'll all know when we die if there really is a GOD!!! Then we'll know for a FACT if the blood of the innocent, on the hands of the abortionists, were acceptable....or if Moses really parted the Red Sea.....or if there are really virgins waiting to be plucked.....or if Christ really rose from the dead......or if angles really exist.......or if there is really a HELL......or if there is a FINAL judgement........or if death is just 'the end'.............we'll find out soon enough.....yes?
Get out your dictionary bumbler... you got it wrong again. The difference....... the atheism religion believe THEY are GOD! Atheist noun ~ "a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings."
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
First - and you don't seem to comprehend this quite well - Morality is not something that is put to a public opinion poll. Basically you are saying - if a majority of Germans were in favor of killing Jews than that would be o.k. Or if a majority of Southerns were in favor of slavery or jim crow laws than that would be o.k. Second - the vast majority of Americans is NOT pro-death .. certainly not in favor of unlimited abortion including late term abortion/infanticide. So sorry - you Pelosi, Tonko, Schumer, Cuomo and the whole left wing nut crowd are the extremists and far out of the mainstream.
NoDVOR, that's not what I'm saying, but you already knew that.
FIRST: You post about MORALITY, is an individual thing, it isn't decided by a poll. Some religions consider it a "sin" others consider it a personal choice. Are you saying that everyone in a religion who isn't anti Choice is immoral? No one is being forced to have an abortion and I would be against any law that would force an abortion on someone who didn't want one.
Second: The vast majority of America is PRO CHOICE, with only 20% saying it should be outlawed in all cases. Many Americans who would never consider having an abortion personally because of religious beliefs, consider it wrong to force their religious views on the rest of America.
Gallup finds: 26% of Americans saying abortion should be legal under any circumstances 20% saying it should be illegal in all circumstances The majority, 52%, opt for something in between. As has been the case in nearly every Gallup measure of this question since 1975.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I agree....but you can't legislate morality! It is a personal choice and we will all know when we die if we made the right choices.....
Societies have been legislating morality for thousands of years.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
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