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Just like death and taxes, Boxy's responses are soooo inevitable...and predictable


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Just like death and taxes, Boxy's responses are soooo inevitable...and predictable


Where is the outrage... only on the Extreme Right.
Where is the call for impeachment...  non existent, except on the Far Right.
Where is the public outcry... Only on the Right.

Unless something else happens... some other facts or incident yet unknown... The GOP Trio of
Scandals are a 'non issue'.

BTW,

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Hillary Clinton continues to get heavily positive reviews for her work as secretary of state
in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, even after renewed Republican allegations of an Obama
administration related to the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi, Libya last fall.


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Despite the modest erosion in what was sky-high support, Clinton remains among
the most popular secretaries of state in recent history,
matching or exceeding Condoleezza
Rice and Madeleine Albright’s popularity and far more popular than Donald Rumsfeld, Warren
Christopher and Alexander Haig.

(Washington Post)


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Where is the outrage... only on the Extreme Right.
Where is the call for impeachment...  non existent, except on the Far Right.
Where is the public outcry... Only on the Right.

Unless something else happens... some other facts or incident yet unknown... The GOP Trio of
Scandals are a 'non issue'.





a non-issue only for Democrats...
You're right, the dumb'ed down electorate could care less if they are lied to or have their personal freedoms reduced by government spying... just as long as they get their gubmet check, free obamacare, or free Obamaphone. The press on the other hand, is getting uncomfortable, listening to Bob Schieffer on Sunday was an indication.

I wasn't on this board when Bush enacted the Patriot act, but I can imagine you were appalled. Obama has not only extended the act, he has stepped up the surveillance...if a pub pres did this, adjectives from Nazi on down would be used.


Take Obama out of it. the fact that you don't seem to care when a group is targeted by the IRS based on their political beliefs, and when the press are spied on, pretty much tells what you're all about... of course, I already figured that.


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................following in GOV ALMIGHTY/LAME STREAM MEDIA'S footsteps.....

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Saudi Arabia blocks access to Jpost.com  
By BENJAMIN WEINTHAL, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT
21/05/2013  

http://www.jpost.com/LandedPages/PrintArticle.aspx?id=313866


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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WOW........GOV ALMIGHTY is getty pretty paranoid....eh???


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Shepard Smith: Gov't 'Went Into Our Computer Servers At Fox News,' Didn't Tell Us

Shepard Smith Fox News Report, May 20, 2013 - During a discussion on Monday about the Justice Department tracking and snooping into Fox News reporter James Rosen's personal emails, Fox News host Shepard Smith offered another, related claim. The network's computer servers were also looked into, he told Judge Andrew Napolitano. A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office denied it.



"When they do issue this subpoena," Smith noted, "by law, they have to tell you they've done it, don't they? I mean, they went into our computer servers at Fox News, went around around our security, pulled things out, and didn't tell us they'd done so."



Napolitano noted that both the network and Rosen found out about it from the reports — but that the "government has an obligation to report this to the target, James, and to anybody else involved."


http://xrepublic.tv/node/3388


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Box didn't see the latest poll:  After IRS, Benghazi scandals, public trust shifts to GOP
May 21, 2013 | 1:00pm
Paul Bedard
The Washington Examiner

    After IRS, Benghazi scandals, public trust shifts to GOP
    How much news has the Obama administration successfully suppressed?
    Rand Paul blasts Senate for bullying Apple
    Byron York: Lawmakers dig into life-and-death issues of Benghazi
    White House mocks birthers to avoid questions about scandals

The Democratic Party's edge over the GOP on who the public trusts more on ethics and corruption issues has flipped in the wake of the IRS and Benghazi scandals, according to Rasmussen Reports.

Not only do voters trust Republicans more now, they have their highest level of confidence in the GOP and the lowest level in Democrats in seven months.

While the Democrats had an eight-point "trust advantage" over Republicans a month ago, Rasmussen's latest poll said that edge has disappeared and now the GOP has a two-point advantage.

"With growing questions about Benghazi and actions taken by the Internal Revenue Service and the Justice Department, Democrats' noticeable edge over Republicans in voter trust in the area of government ethics and corruption has disappeared," said Rasmussen.
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In their latest poll, 39 percent of likely voters trust Republicans more to handle the ethics and corruption issue. Slightly less, 37 percent, still trust Democrats and 24 percent are unsure.

But, said Rasmussen, "this marks a big shift from March when Democrats held an eight-point trust advantage over the GOP - 42 percent to 34 percent. Now the president's party trails by two. The newest finding is the highest level of confidence in Republicans and the lowest level for Democrats since October. It's also the smallest gap between the two parties in nearly a year."   http://washingtonexaminer.com/after-irs-benghazi-scandals-public-trust-shifts-to-gop/article/2530167
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Didn't Rasmussen also predict that Romney would win the election?


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Well maybe if the IRS hadn't prevented the Republican action groups from organizing the election may have had a different outcome.
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Didn't Rasmussen also predict that Romney would win the election?


Yup, so did Gallup.  50% - 49%.

I guess using the IRS to target conservatives worked as planned.


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The Nazi Party and Communist Party had similar support.  King George III had the support of most colonists prior to the revolution.  People fear tyrants, that is why they support them.  If you oppose them, you will be crushed.  It's human nature.


That's right....remember....

IT'S MY FEKKIN' ISLAND


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If all american's aren't outraged over this 'private invation'....then the sheople are more brain dead then anticipated!! The gift to the corrupt government that just keeps on giving!!


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Fox anchor: Justice Department seized phone records for reporter James Rosen’s parents
By David Sherfinski
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The Washington Times
Wednesday, May 22, 2013

Fox News anchor Bret Baier says that in addition to seizing the phone records of Fox reporter James Rosen, the Department of Justice seized the records of his parents as well in another twist to the still-unraveling saga.

"We said the different numbers; we have the documents now, the seized ... records relate to James' parents' home in Staten Island," he said on "Special Report with Bret Baier."

On Monday, news reports said the Justice Department seized phone records and emails sent to a private account of Fox News' chief Washington correspondent, Mr. Rosen, in an investigation into a 2009 story about U.N. sanctions and North Korea's nuclear program.

In court filings, the department even said Mr. Rosen may have aided and abetted in a crime by trying to pry the information, which was classified, from his source.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com.....cords/#ixzz2U2IDdKh5


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The Justice Department did more than seize a Fox News reporter's emails while suggesting he was a criminal "co-conspirator" in a leak case -- it did so under one of the most serious wartime laws in America, the Espionage Act.

It's the same law used by the Nixon administration to go after The New York Times and Daniel Ellsberg over the leak of the Pentagon Papers.
It's the law used to charge the Rosenbergs, American communists, for allegedly passing secret information to the Soviet Union -- they were executed for the offense in 1953.

One Washington attorney, who represents two defendants recently charged under that World War I-era law, told FoxNews.com that the decision by the Justice Department to invoke it in the current case is "beyond chilling" -- and could set a dangerous precedent for going after reporters.

"This kind of puts us into the deep freeze," attorney Jesselyn Radack said. "I feel like we're back to the Dark Ages."



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....rator/#ixzz2U7UUokF2
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DOJ probed and grilled NYT government sources
in Breaking News 12 hours ago

To uncover the source behind the New York Times article that exposed Obama’s order of cyber-attacks on Iran, the FBI seized phone and email logs from the White House, defense department and intelligence agencies, the paper revealed.
New York Times journalist, David E. Sanger, was at the center of
an investigation by the domestic security service to find out who
leaked information to the press when he published a June 2012
article entitled ‘Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against
Iran,’ which explored US attacks on Iranian nuclear enrichment
facilities.

Although he wasn’t the primary focus of the official
investigations, as with recent Associated Press and Fox News cases,
agents subjected officials to interrogation who had contact with
him prior to the article’s publication, two people familiar with
the investigation told the newspaper.

These ‘unprecedented’ levels of investigation have led to six
prosecutions and many more aggressive inquiries, according to the
paper.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/doj-probed-and-grilled-nyt-government-sources/36418/


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Looks like Holder (who knows nothing) went shopping for a judge to keep everything on the hush-hush.


http://www.newyorker.com/onlin.....-warrant-secret.html

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May 24, 2013

How Prosecutors Fought to Keep Rosen’s Warrant Secret

Posted by Ryan Lizza


The Obama Administration fought to keep a search warrant for James Rosen’s private e-mail account secret, arguing to a federal judge that the government might need to monitor the account for a lengthy period of time.

The new details are revealed in a court filing detailing a back and forth between the Justice Department and the federal judges who oversaw the request to search a Gmail account belonging to Rosen, a reporter for Fox News. A 2009 article Rosen had written about North Korea sparked an investigation; Ronald C. Machen, Jr., the U.S. Attorney who is prosecuting Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a former State Department adviser who allegedly leaked classified information to Rosen, insisted that the reporter should not be notified of the search and seizure of his e-mails, even after a lengthy delay.



E-mails, Machen wrote, “are commonly used by subjects or targets of the criminal investigation at issue, and the e-mail evidence derived from those compelled disclosures frequently forms the core of the Government’s evidence supporting criminal charges.”

He argued that disclosure of the search warrant would preclude the government from monitoring the account, should such a step become necessary in the investigation. Machen added that “some investigations are continued for many years because, while the evidence is not yet sufficient to bring charges, it is sufficient to have identified criminal subjects and/or criminal activity serious enough to justify continuation of the investigation.”

Machen insisted the investigation would be compromised if Rosen was informed of the warrant, and also asked the court to order Google not to notify Rosen that the company had handed over Rosen’s e-mails to the government. Rosen, according to recent reports, did not learn that the government seized his e-mail records until it was reported in the Washington Post last week.

The new details indicate that the government wanted the option to search Rosen’s e-mails repeatedly if the F.B.I. found further evidence implicating the reporter in what prosecutors argued was a conspiracy to commit espionage.

According to recently unsealed documents in the case, the Obama Justice Department sought an extensive amount of information from Rosen’s e-mail account. In addition to Rosen’s correspondence with Kim, the government wanted to know about Rosen’s contacts with other government officials, including “records or information relating to the Author’s communication with any other source or potential source of the information disclosed in the Article.”

The government, which accused Rosen of being an “aider, abettor, and/or co-conspirator” in the Kim case, cast a wide net in its search of Rosen’s e-mail. Among other things, the search warrant requested access to:


—“Records or information related to Stephen Kim’s or the Author’s knowledge of laws, regulations, rules and/or procedures prohibiting the unauthorized disclosure of national defense or classified information.”

—“Any classified document, image, record, or information, and any communications concerning such documents, images, records, or information.”

—“Any document, image, record, or information concerning the national defense, including but not limited to documents, maps, plans, diagrams, guides, manuals, and other Department of Defense, U.S. military, and/or weapons material, as well as sources and methods of intelligence gathering, and any communications concerning such documents, images, records, or information.”

—“Records or information related to the state of mind of any individuals seeking the disclosure or receipt of classified, intelligence and/or national defense information.”

In addition, the Justice Department searched the account for any Internet services Rosen may have accessed and records of “data transfer volume,” suggesting the government was looking for evidence that Rosen downloaded large quantities of potentially classified information.

The new documents show that two judges separately declared that the Justice Department was required to notify Rosen of the search warrant, even if the notification came after a delay. Otherwise: “The subscriber therefore will never know, by being provided a copy of the warrant, for example, that the government secured a warrant and searched the contents of her e-mail account,” Judge John M. Facciola wrote in an opinion rejecting the Obama Administration’s argument.

Machen appealed that decision, and in September, 2010, Royce C. Lamberth, the chief judge in the Federal District Court for the District of Columbia, granted Machen’s request to overturn the order of the two judges.

Rosen was not indicted in the case. Kim was indicted for making unauthorized disclosures of national defense information and for making false statements to F.B.I. agents about his contacts with Rosen.

Yesterday, hours after President Obama said, in a speech at National Defense University, that he had asked Attorney General Eric Holder to review the Justice Department’s policies concerning investigations of the media, NBC News reported that the warrant to search Rosen’s e-mail account was personally approved by Holder.


  








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GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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I wonder if they will all be held in camps like the Japanese during WW2


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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