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Most Americans say rich should pay more taxes


(As you can see, the ridiculous Righties on this board are in agreement with only 8% of America
on this issue.)
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-say-rich-should-pay-more-taxes-according-to-new-survey/


Duh...most Americans aren't rich...and as such, they have no problem spending other peoples money.

You could say the same about where Wind turbines are built, Nuclear waste disposal, etc.. as long as it doesn't effect them. who cares?

We have a spending problem AND a revenue problem.."Most Americans" have a solution to the revenue problem, and its other problem they can't seem to face.


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Duh...most Americans aren't rich...and as such, they have no problem spending other peoples money.

You could say the same about where Wind turbines are built, Nuclear waste disposal, etc.. as long as it doesn't effect them. who cares?

We have a spending problem AND a revenue problem.."Most Americans" have a solution to the revenue problem, and its other problem they can't seem to face.

In the 50's there were lots of millionaires... and their number was growing.  They were taxed up to 90% yet they
still gave to charity, they still spent their fortunes, they continued to grow their portfolio and continued to
amass $$$.  
Now the ultra wealthy spend little or nothing to compensate the country for the infrastructure that made
them rich.  The middle class as a group pay a higher actual percentage of their income on taxes.
In other words, the middle class are paying the bills of the ultra wealthy, as the super rich hide their
income offshore.  

See below for the reason this travesty continues:



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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In the 50's there were lots of millionaires... and their number was growing.  They were taxed up to 90% yet they
still gave to charity, they still spent their fortunes, they continued to grow their portfolio and continued to
amass $$$.  
Now the ultra wealthy spend little or nothing to compensate the country for the infrastructure that made
them rich.  The middle class as a group pay a higher actual percentage of their income on taxes.
In other words, the middle class are paying the bills of the ultra wealthy, as the super rich hide their
income offshore.  



Eliminate the income tax and go to a straight VAT with exclusions for heat, electric, rent, etc...Drastically increase customs taxes to discourage people from getting around the VAT.. The more you spend, the more VAT you pay...

Quite a few of those "ultra rich" are Dems... obviously, they think the rich should pay more... why are they waiting for the gov't to mandate it?
NOTHING is preventing them from cutting a check and sending it directly to the US Treasury. Buffett is bitching about the rich not paying their fair share all the time... how many checks has he sent? After all, he benefited from our Infrastructure as well...you would think he'd do "the right thing" and pay up...


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Eliminate the income tax and go to a straight VAT with exclusions for heat, electric, rent, etc...Drastically increase customs taxes to discourage people from getting around the VAT.. The more you spend, the more VAT you pay...

Quite a few of those "ultra rich" are Dems... obviously, they think the rich should pay more... why are they waiting for the gov't to mandate it?
NOTHING is preventing them from cutting a check and sending it directly to the US Treasury. Buffett is bitching about the rich not paying their fair share all the time... how many checks has he sent? After all, he benefited from our Infrastructure as well...you would think he'd do "the right thing" and pay up...


Buffet pays his taxes to the letter with no special "tax lawyers" to scam the system.  Why should
he or any one else pay extra?  
As long as Conservatives and the rich continue to buy politicians, there will be no 'fair' tax system.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Buffet pays his taxes to the letter with no special "tax lawyers" to scam the system.  Why should
he or any one else pay extra?
  
As long as Conservatives and the rich continue to buy politicians, there will be no 'fair' tax system.


Why? Because it's the right thing to do! If its the right thing to do, you shouldn't wait for "others" to pay extra.
You should pay what you think is right.....if its above and beyond what the government requires you to pay, so be it!
Think of it as a BIG tip to the gov't for providing such a wonderful infrastructure that helped them get rich.

Bottom line.. Buffett and the other Dem hypocrites only pay what the gov't MAKES them pay...IMHO, they are actually worse than the others because of the self-righteous bullshit they try to spread around....


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Buffet pays his taxes to the letter with no special "tax lawyers" to scam the system.  Why should
he or any one else pay extra?  
As long as Conservatives and the rich continue to buy politicians, there will be no 'fair' tax system.


to the letter doesn't make it OK...just because it's OK and legislated and the regulation doesn't make it right....sure
buffet is some kind of philanthropist but so are a bunch of middle class folks that have fund raisers for their neighbors...

what is it that people are looking for?

I say get rid of income tax....tax should be on what you buy......if the rich are buying more tvs/cars/homes etc than
the poor then there is the tax.....

The government doesn't get to stamp a value on me because they feel like it.....I'm not rich but they don't get to say I'm
poor or that I've gotten enough of my fair share......

I get to decide when I have enough/too much or not enough......

the system just shouldn't be that complicated...it has NOTHING to do with rich/poor and everything to do with access....

if you are well connected and have no $$,,,,,you have access .....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Most Americans Agree:  TAX THE RICH!

WASHINGTON (AP) — The rich aren’t taxed enough and the middle class is taxed too much.
As for your taxes, you probably think they’re too high as well.

Those are the results of an Associated Press-GfK poll that found that most people in the United
States, support President Barack Obama’s proposal to raise investment taxes on high-income families.

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According to the poll, 68 percent of those questioned said wealthy households pay too
little in federal taxes; only 11 percent said the wealthy pay too much.

Also, 60 percent said middle-class households pay too much in federal taxes, while
7 percent said they paid too little.

Obama laid out a series of tax proposals as part of his 2016 budget released this month.
Few are likely to win approval in the Republican-controlled Congress. But if fellow Democrats
were to embrace his ideas, they could play a role in the 2016 race.

One proposal would increase capital gains taxes on households making more than $500,000.
In the survey, 56 percent favored the proposal, while only 16 percent opposed it.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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One proposal would increase capital gains taxes on households making more than $500,000.
In the survey, 56 percent favored the proposal, while only 16 percent opposed it.


And 2% asked where the addition tax money would go and concluded it doesn't matter. They realized it pays for more 6 figure salaries for government workers, pays for overinflated government employee pensions, and pays the interest on the debt issued by central bankers.  The 99% won't see a dime of difference in their lifestyles.  But the question makes for good campaign fodder.


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FLAT TAX!!!

the fu(king tax code shouldn't have to be that difficult.....it's only that difficult so a bunch of bankers/lawyers/accountants/politicians
(you know, all those fu(king career people) have control.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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And 2% asked where the addition tax money would go and concluded it doesn't matter.  


It will go to pave the highways Cicero drives on.  It will go to clean the water Cicero drinks.  It will go
to provide Cicero's  health care.


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It will go to pave the highways Cicero drives on.  It will go to clean the water Cicero drinks.  It will go
to provide Cicero's  health care.


will it? with regulations/strings attached and limited choice


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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It will go to pave the highways Cicero drives on.  It will go to clean the water Cicero drinks.  It will go
to provide Cicero's  health care.


It will pay the highway flag persons $40 hr salary, the water treatment plant worker's $50 hr salary, the medical insurance company CEO $10 million annual salary, and pay the IRS agents $100k salary to extort all this money from the productive class to pay back the bankers with interest because they really paid for it all.  


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It will pay the highway flag persons $40 hr salary, the water treatment plant worker's $50 hr salary, the medical insurance company CEO $10 million annual salary, and pay the IRS agents $100k salary to extort all this money from the productive class to pay back the bankers with interest because they really paid for it all.  


Cissy hates it that he is totally dependant on HIS GOVERNMENT for his livelihood!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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How can one forget the shovel ready road/bridge jobs that the Omnibus funds were supposed to pay for.
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Quoted from Shadow
How can one forget the shovel ready road/bridge jobs that the Omnibus funds were supposed to pay for.


We have relatives that work in the construction field.
they said that if it wasn't for taxpaid government jobs.....there wouldn't be any!!!
doesn't anyone find that scary?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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