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Box A Rox
April 16, 2013, 8:16am Report to Moderator

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U.S. Practiced Torture After 9/11

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WASHINGTON —
A nonpartisan, independent review of interrogation and detention programs in the years
after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks concludes that “it is indisputable that the
United States engaged in the practice of torture” and that the
nation’s highest officials bore ultimate responsibility for it.


The sweeping, 577-page report says that while brutality has occurred in every American war,
there never before had been “the kind of considered and detailed discussions that occurred
after 9/11 directly involving a president and his top advisers on the wisdom, propriety and
legality of inflicting pain and torment on some detainees in our custody.”


NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04.....tner=rss&emc=rss


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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...now they just execute.  Much less barbaric.

When is Holder going to charge the politicians and generals with war crimes?  Still wait for that box?


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When is Holder going to charge the politicians and generals with war crimes?  Still wait for that box?


Me too.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Me too.


You'll wait for a Republican to get into office.  Then it will be your battle cry until a Democrat gets into office.  Then you and the rest of the left will go silent.


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I think our leaders need much much better background checks.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I have posted this pic for the last 9 years...





The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Box....you forgot the rest of them.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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It still takes place today under Obama so he is just as guilty.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I have posted this pic for the last 9 years...





What about the people in charge of prosecuting the crime?  Isn't the Obama administration a guilty accomplice for not prosecuting?


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Are the people that personally did the torturing held accountable or were they just following orders?  


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Are the people that personally did the torturing held accountable or were they just following orders?  


You cannot be forced to follow orders that are illegal or violate the oath you have taken.
As a matter of fact, as has been pointed out repeatedly, it is your obligation to not only not
folow those orders, but it is your obligation to report such illegal orders up the chain of command,
or you are equally held accountable for violation of the oath and accoutable for equal punishment.

(PS - Just so you know, this is not conjecture on my part...I was part of JAG Corps when stateside.)


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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