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May have, or Obama's drone policies "may have" inspired them, you can make any claim when you put the words "may have" into the sentence. Come on you should know better then that. Remember Iraq "may have WMD's" and you see what that got us.


I posted the headlines... read the linked story for the full report.

  I posted "may have" because the story is still evolving and authorities are still investigating the
event.
As the link clearly states:
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Officials say they do not plan to take what the younger accused
bomber has told them at face value, and that the probe will continue to
examine whether there were overseas terror connections of any kind.
"It would be in his interest to minimize his own role," one official said.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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OH NO!!!  They resurrected Al Awlaki.  PERFECT TIMING!!!

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Will Senate Hearing Finally Yield Answers on the Drone War?
Posted: 04/22/2013

On Tuesday afternoon, Senator Dick Durbin will chair a long-awaited Congressional hearing on the Obama drone war.

Although we've heard plenty of speeches in the past couple of years from Obama administration officials acknowledging that the United States uses armed drones to bomb suspected terrorists overseas, we've received precious little actual information about who the government is killing, where and why.

Tuesday's hearing should begin to change that.

At least some members of Congress are clearly fed up with the administration's excessive secrecy about who the American government is killing and where exactly we're at war -- as they should be. Rand Paul mounted a 13 hour filibuster to demand more information about the drone program, and got a couple of memos that raise as many questions as they answered.

The unanswered questions extend far beyond Paul's primary focus on how the U.S. justifies killing American citizens. Of the thousands killed by U.S. drones, we only know of four that have been Americans. What is the U.S. government's basis for killing some 4700 other people?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daphne-eviatar/will-senate-hearing-final_b_3134246.html


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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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even ny'rs were too stupid to see the scam!!! NO BIG SURPRISE!!!


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One of the most egregious of these cases is the so-called "Newburgh Four" in New York State, in which an informant in 2008-09 offered the defendants $250,000, as well as weapons, to carry out a terrorist plot. The New York University Center for Human Rights and Justice reviewed this case and two others, and concluded: "The government's informants introduced and aggressively pushed ideas about violent jihad and, moreover, actually encouraged the defendants to believe it was their duty to take action against the United States."

The federal judge presiding over the Newburgh case, Colleen McMahon, declared that it was "beyond question that the government created the crime here," and she criticized the FBI for sending informants "trolling among the citizens of a troubled community, offering very poor people money if they will play some role—any role—in criminal activity."

http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2013/130421_fbi_boston.html


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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even ny'rs were too stupid to see the scam!!! NO BIG SURPRISE!!!


Bumbler's post begins at the source... Lyndon La Rouche.
We all remember La Rouche's ties to the KKK and his stint in jail.  
Also:
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In January 1984 NBC aired a news segment about LaRouche, and in March
a "First Camera" report produced by Pat Lynch. In an article for the Columbia
Journalism Review in 1985, Lynch wrote that the reports included the allegation that
LaRouche was "the leader of a violence-prone, anti-Semitic cult that smeared its
opponents and sued its critics."[98] In interviews, former members of the movement
gave details about their fundraising practices, and alleged that LaRouche had spoken
about assassinating U.S. President Jimmy Carter. The reports said an investigation
by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) would lead to an indictment, and quoted Irwin
Suall, the Anti-Defamation League's (ADL) fact-finding director, who called LaRouche
a "small-time Hitler." After the broadcast, LaRouche members picketed NBC's office
carrying signs saying "Lynch Pat Lynch," and the NBC switchboard said it received a
death threat against her. Another NBC researcher said someone placed fliers around
her parents' neighborhood saying she was running a call-girl ring from her parents'
home.[99] Lynch said LaRouche members began to impersonate her and her researchers
in telephone calls, and called her "Fat Lynch" in their publications.[98]

LaRouche filed a defamation suit against NBC and the ADL, arguing that the programs
were the result of a deliberate campaign of defamation against him. The judge
ruled that NBC need not reveal its sources, and LaRouche lost the case. NBC won a
countersuit, the jury awarding the network $3 million in damages, later reduced to
$258,459, for misuse of libel law, in what was called one of the more celebrated
countersuits by a libel defendant. LaRouche failed to pay the damages, pleading
poverty, which the judge described as "completely lacking in credibility."
LaRouche said he had been unaware since 1973 who paid the rent on the estate,
or for his food, lodging, clothing, transportation, bodyguards, and lawyers. The
judge fined him for failing to answer. After the judge signed an order to allow
discovery of LaRouche's personal finances, a cashier's check was delivered to the
court to end the case


Why would Bumbler think that anyone would believe anything coming from this
convicted felon scumbag's site????


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We are asked to believe that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was identified by the Russian government as an extremist Dagestani or Chechen Islamist terrorist, and they were so concerned about it that in late 2010 they asked the US government to take action. At that time, the US and Russia did not normally have a security cooperation relationship over the Caucasus, particularly following the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008. For the Russians to ask the Americans for assistance, Tsarnaev must have been high on their list of worries.

In early 2011 the FBI interview Tsarnaev and trawl his papers and computers but apparently – remarkably for somebody allegedly radicalized by internet – the habitually paranoid FBI find nothing of concern.

So far, so weird. But now this gets utterly incredible. In 2012 Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who is of such concern to Russian security, is able to fly to Russia and pass through the airport security checks of the world’s most thoroughly and brutally efficient security services without being picked up. He is then able to proceed to Dagestan – right at the heart of the world’s heaviest military occupation and the world’s most far reaching secret police surveillance – again without being intercepted, and he is able there to go through some form of terror training or further Islamist indoctrination. He then flies out again without any intervention by the Russian security services.

That is the official story and I have no doubt it did not happen. I know Russia and I know the Russian security services. Whatever else they may be, they are extremely well-equipped, experienced and efficient and embedded into a social fabric accustomed to cooperation with their mastery. This scenario is simply impossible in the real world.

We have, by the official account, the involvement of the two Tsarnaev brothers, the FBI and the Russian security services. The FBI have a massive recent record of running agent provocateur operations to entrap gullible Muslims into terrorism. The Russian security services have form on false flag Chechen bombings. Where the truth lies may be difficult to dig out. But the above official version is not true.


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The Bush Legacy... The Boston Bombing

The 19-year-old suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings has told interrogators
that the American wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (not drones) motivated him and
his brother to carry out the attack, according to U.S. officials familiar with the
interviews.


Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....?wpisrc=al_comboNP_p


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Wow box!!  You're throwing everything except the kitchen sink.  It was the NRA, the GOP, now Bush.  Hmmm...Your arguments haven't changed much over the years.  


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Wow box!!  You're throwing everything except the kitchen sink.  It was the NRA, the GOP, now Bush.  Hmmm...Your arguments haven't changed much over the years.  


Cissy was sure that the Bombings were the result of the Drone program...
Instead the Boston bombing was inspired by revenge for George Worst Bush's wars.


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Cissy was sure that the Bombings were the result of the Drone program...
Instead the Boston bombing was inspired by revenge for George Worst Bush's wars.


We all know the drone program is keeping us safe.   Can't question that!

Didn't you just post earlier that the alleged bombers were inspired by Al Awlaki?  Obama's extrajudicial execution of Al Awlaki wasn't the reason behind the bombing?  Nahhh.  It was Bush and Cheany.  LOL

It's fun watching box regurgitate the ever changing narrative coming from his "legitimate" news sources.


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We all know the drone program is keeping us safe.   Can't question that!

Didn't you just post earlier that the alleged bombers were inspired by Al Awlaki?  Obama's extrajudicial execution of Al Awlaki wasn't the reason behind the bombing?  Nahhh.  It was Bush and Cheany.  LOL

It's fun watching box regurgitate the ever changing narrative coming from his "legitimate" news sources.


Al Awlaki, Cicero's sworn buddy for life (Cic's life... his buddy's life is over) was killed by a
Drone Strike in Yemen.  
Cic's BFFL Al Awlaki has been an inspiration to countless terrorists and responsible for the
recruiting and brainwashing of several who were successful.

Cic's best friend Al Awlaki has an interesting life:
~ Born in the USA, 1978: Leaves U.S. and moves with family to Sana, Yemen. Age 7.
~Jan. 13, 1988: Issued U.S. passport.
~June 5, 1990: Enters U.S. in Chicago with Yemeni passport with J-1 exchange visitor U.S.
visa issued in Sana’a.
~June 6, 1990: Applies for Social Security card. Claims he was born in Sana’a, Yemen.
~June 8, 1990: SSN 521-77-7121 issued to Awlaki.
(It seems that Al Awlaki can't make up his mind if he is a US citizen or a Yemeni)
~Aug. 21, 1991: Enters U.S. in Chicago.
~1991: Attends Colorado State University on a scholarship from Yemen.
~1993: Awlaki visits Afghanistan.
~Nov. 18, 1993: Applies for a U.S. passport in Fort Collins, Colo.
~1994: Marries his cousin   from Yemen, Gihan Yosen Baker.
~August 1996: Busted for soliciting a prostitute in San Diego WHAT???
~ Pleads guilty to a lesser charge. Enrolls in HIV and AIDS education program and fined $400.
~April 5, 1997: Busted again for soliciting a prostitute in San Diego. WHAT AGAIN???
~ Sentenced to three years’ probation, fined $240, and ordered to perform 12 days of community service.
~1998 & 1999: Serves as vice president of Charitable Society for Social Welfare Inc.,
the U.S. branch of a Yemeni charity headed by Abdul Majeed al-Zindani.
Federal prosecutors in a New York terrorism-financing case later describe
the charity as “a front organization” that was “used to support al-Qaeda
and Osama bin Laden.”

~June 1999: FBI investigates Awlaki after learning that he may have been contacted by Ziyad
Khaleel, who bought a satellite phone bin Laden used in the 1990s.
~2001 Meets Nidal Hasan, future Fort Hood shooter
~September 2001: German authorities find Awlaki’s phone number in the Hamburg home of
Ramzi Binalshibh, a Yemeni who was a leading figure in the 9/11 plot.
~June 17, 2002: Federal magistrate in Colorado signs warrant for Awlaki’s arrest for passport fraud.
~October 2002: A federal diplomatic special agent in Colorado began investigating in preparation
to take the case to a grand jury learns Awlaki corrected the place of birth on his Social Security
application to New Mexico.
~Mid-2006: Awlaki arrested in Yemen on “charges of kidnapping on charges of kidnapping for
ransom and being involved in an al-Qa’ida plot to kidnap a U.S. official.”
~December 2007: Awlaki released after 18 months confinement in Yemen, almost all of it in
solitary confinement.
~Statement of President Barack Obama in Fort Meyer, Virginia:

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Earlier this morning, Anwar al-Awlaki — a leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
— was killed in Yemen. (Applause.) The death of Awlaki is a major blow to al Qaeda’s most
active operational affiliate. Awlaki was the leader of external operations for al Qaeda in the
Arabian Peninsula. In that role, he took the lead in planning and directing efforts to murder
innocent Americans. He directed the failed attempt to blow up an airplane on Christmas Day
in 2009. He directed the failed attempt to blow up U.S. cargo planes in 2010. And he repeatedly
called on individuals in the United States and around the globe to kill innocent men, women
and children to advance a murderous agenda.

The death of al-Awlaki marks another significant milestone in the broader effort to defeat al
Qaeda and its affiliates.


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Box, much of that information and accusations you provided are levelled by the government.  There is this thing that used to be a cornerstone in the US Constitution called due process.  This used to allow citizens to defend themselves against the possibilty of false accusations by the state.  Then AFTER a trial, a jury would decide whether the accusations were true.

But I fully understand that there are many statist like you and Hannity, and Savage and Levin that see no need for this process any longer.  It is antiquated and unnecessary, accusations leveled by the government are ALWAYS legitimate.  And if you are accused you MUST be guilty.


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Box, much of that information and accusations you provided are levelled by the government.  There is this thing that used to be a cornerstone in the US Constitution called due process.  This used to allow citizens to defend themselves against the possibilty of false accusations by the state.  Then AFTER a trial, a jury would decide whether the accusations were true.

But I fully understand that there are many statist like you and Hannity, and Savage and Levin that see no need for this process any longer.  It is antiquated and unnecessary, accusations leveled by the government are ALWAYS legitimate.  And if you are accused you MUST be guilty.


So his pleading guilty to soliciting a prostitute... you do agree that he IS guilty of those charges... right???  I know he is a friend
of yours and a "devout Muslim"... hey... isn't patronizing a prostitute against the Koran???


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So his pleading guilty to soliciting a prostitute... you do agree that he IS guilty of those charges... right???  I know he is a friend
of yours and a "devout Muslim"... hey... isn't patronizing a prostitute against the Koran???


Yes, he solicited a prostitute - he's guilty of international terrorism!  Case closed!


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Yes, he solicited a prostitute - he's guilty of international terrorism!  Case closed!


By soliciting a prostitute (TWICE) he has betrayed his Muslim beliefs... or he never had any Muslim beliefs,
and was just using the Muslim religion as an excuse to further his terrorism!
If he was a US citizen in the first place, then renounced his citizenship when he got a Yemeni passport, then changed
his mind again when he then got a US passport...
Who knows if he was actually a US citizen when he saw that US drone flying up his butt and explode?


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