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First Chechen War
Main article: First Chechen War
The First Chechen War took place over a two-year period lasting from 1994 to 1996, when Russian forces attempted to regain control over Chechnya, which had already established independence since November 1991 (generally falling in line with other entities seceding from the USSR, except that Checheno-Ingushetia had previously been a division within Russia). Despite overwhelming manpower, weaponry and air support, the Russian forces were unable to establish effective permanent control over the mountainous area due to many successful Chechen guerrilla raids. The Budyonnovsk hospital hostage crisis in 1995 shocked the Russian public and discredited Chechen guerrillas. Widespread demoralization of the Russian forces in the area and a successful offensive on Grozny by Chechen resistance forces led by Aslan Maskhadov prompted Russian President Boris Yeltsin to declare a ceasefire in 1996 and sign a peace treaty a year later.
Inter-war period
Main article: Chechen Republic of Ichkeria
After the war, parliamentary and presidential elections took place in January 1997 in Chechnya and brought to power new President Aslan Maskhadov, chief of staff and prime minister in the Chechen coalition government, for a five-year term. Maskhadov sought to maintain Chechen sovereignty while pressing Moscow to help rebuild the republic, whose formal economy and infrastructure were virtually destroyed.[18] Russia continued to send money for the rehabilitation of the republic; it also provided pensions and funds for schools and hospitals. Most of these funds were taken by Chechen authorities and divided between favoured warlords.[19] Nearly half a million people (40% of Chechnya's prewar population) had been internally displaced and lived in refugee camps or overcrowded villages.[20] There was an economic downturn. Two Russian brigades were permanently stationed in Chechnya.[20]
In lieu of the devastated economic structure, kidnapping emerged as the principal source of income countrywide, procuring over $200 million during the three-year independence of the chaotic fledgling state,[21] although victims were rarely killed.[22] In 1998, 176 people were kidnapped, 90 of whom were released, according to official accounts. President Maskhadov started a major campaign against hostage-takers, and on October 25, 1998, Shadid Bargishev, Chechnya's top anti-kidnapping official, was killed in a remote-controlled car bombing. Bargishev's colleagues then insisted they would not be intimidated by the attack and would go ahead with their offensive. Political violence and religious extremism, blamed on "Wahhabism", was rife. In 1998, Grozny authorities declared a state of emergency. Tensions led to open clashes between the Chechen National Guard and Islamist militants, such as the July 1998 confrontation in Gudermes.
Second Chechen War
Main article: Second Chechen War
The War of Dagestan began on 7 August 1999, during which the Islamic International Brigade (IIPB) began an unsuccessful incursion into the neighbouring Russian republic of Dagestan in favor of the Shura of Dagestan who sought independence from Russia. In September, a series of apartment bombings that killed three hundred Russian civilians took place in several Russian cities, including Moscow, which were blamed on the Chechen separatists. However, many journalists as well dissident Litvinenko (later murdered by poisoning), contested the official explanation, instead blaming the Russian Secret Service for blowing up the houses to initiate a new military campaign against Chechnya. Journalist Anna Politkovskaya and Head of the Defense Council of Russian Duma (Parliament) were also killed[when?][where?] after making similar claims. In response, after a prolonged air campaign of retaliatory strikes against the Ichkerian regime, a ground offensive began in October 1999 which marked the beginning of the Second Chechen War. Much better organized and planned than the first Chechen War, the military actions by the Russian Federal forces enabled them to re-establish control over most regions. The Russian forces used brutal force, killing sixty Chechen civilians during a mop-up operation in Aldy, Chechnya on February 5, 2000. After the re-capture of Grozny in February 2000, the Ichkerian regime fell apart. However, Chechen rebel forces continued to fight Russian troops as well as conducting terrorist attacks,[23] seizing a theater in Moscow in October 2002. The Moscow theater hostage crisis involved nearly 50 armed Chechens and 900 hostages, and resulted in a large death toll mostly due to the effects of an aerosol anesthetic pumped through the building by Russian special forces to render those inside unconscious.[24][25][26]
In response to the attack, Russia tightened its grip on Chechnya as well as expanded its anti-terrorist operations throughout the region. Russia was also successful in installing a pro-Moscow Chechen regime, and the most prominent separatist leaders were killed, including former president Aslan Maskhadov and Shamil Basayev. In April 2009, Russia ended its counter-terrorism operation and pulled out the bulk of its army.[27] Three months later, the leader of the separatist government, Akhmed Zakayev, called for a halt to armed resistance against the Chechen police force starting on August 1, 2009. [28]


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why would Savage care if he was alive?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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If it was so important to take him alive, why was it such a terrible idea to take Bin Laden alive?


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Flashback: When Chechen Terrorists Were Framed
Posted on April 19, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog


Preface: We have no idea whether the Chechen brothers who are alleged to have carried out the Boston terrorist attacks are guilty or not.  If half of what the FBI claims is true, then they are. But it is also important to be aware of history.

In 1999, the Russian KGB allegedly conducted a  wave of bombings in Russia in order to justify war against Chechnya and put Vladimir Putin into power

This was apparently a false flag attack wrongfully blamed on Chechen terrorists.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/04/flashback-when-chechen-terrorists-were-framed.html



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Moscow bombers jailed as doubts rise
By Julius Strauss in Moscow
(Filed: 13/01/2004)

Two men were sentenced to life in prison yesterday for bombing Russian apartment blocks in a terrorist campaign that Kremlin critics claim was mounted by the KGB's successors to justify invading Chechnya.

Yusuf Krymshamkhalov and Adam Dekkushev, both from Russian areas close to Chechnya, were convicted of taking part in the blowing up of blocks of flats in Moscow and Volgodonsk in 1999 that left 246 people dead.

The case is one of the murkiest in post-Communist Russia and politically explosive as Vladimir Putin was head of both the FSB - the renamed KGB - and the influential Security Council at the time.

Were the charges of FSB complicity ever proven the president could face disgrace and, possibly, criminal charges.

The bombing campaign came out of the blue in 1999, just as Boris Yeltsin's tenure was coming to an end. It caused panic and led to calls for vengeance from ordinary Russians.

Mr Putin responded by invading Chechnya later that year and rode a resulting wave of popularity to electoral victory the following spring.

According to critics, who include the exiled tycoon Boris Berezovsky, then a Kremlin insider, the FSB organised the explosions as part of a campaign to create support for their boss.

Senior military and intelligence officers have claimed that a parallel invasion of Dagestan, a southern Russian republic, by Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev, was also tacitly encouraged by the FSB.

"I myself heard tapes of officials from Moscow speaking with Basayev to discuss arrangements for the attack," an FSB officer told The Telegraph. At the time Russians hawks were itching for an excuse to rekindle the war in Chechnya.

When the explosions began, the Kremlin pointed the finger at Chechen rebels who had used terrorist tactics before in their fight to gain independence. But on September 22, 1999, locals in the regional town of Ryazan saw three men emerging from the cellars of a block of flats who later turned out to be FSB officers. When local police checked the cellars they found sacks of high explosive wired up to a detonator.

The FSB later attempted to explain away the incident by claiming that the entire operation had merely been a drill and the explosive was in fact sugar, despite a test that proved the contrary.

In true Soviet style they rewarded the three locals who notified the authorities with colour television sets.

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They got him alive!  Well done!


Suspect number one.




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why would Savage care if he was alive?


He was hell bent that the guy was going to be the next Oswald, preventing them from ever exposing the great government conspiracy.


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Yea!  We could sell this comedy routine and make millions$$$ but no one would ever believe
it was real!  

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HILLARIOUS !!!!


Our two resident soldiers - Major Idiot and General Non sense, both who proudly fought in an undeclared war to defend the Constitution.  They missed the provision about who has the authority to declare war, I'm not surprised they are also ignorant of the 4th Amendment.

Talk about comedy.


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I know this will be a terrible disappointment to a$$holes like Savage, but they took him alive.


Just as disappointed as when you found out they attended government schools.


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If it was so important to take him alive, why was it such a terrible idea to take Bin Laden alive?


Al Awlaki was an immanent threat from thousand of miles away. He had to be executed.  But this suspected bomber in the middle of Boston with a possible explosive vest and described as armed and dangerous must be taken alive.  


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Our two resident soldiers - Major Idiot and General Non sense, both who proudly fought in an undeclared war to defend the Constitution.  They missed the provision about who has the authority to declare war, I'm not surprised they are also ignorant of the 4th Amendment.

Talk about comedy.


The comedy is your postings...you can not be taken serious


Here is case on point!  Absurd comic relief from Cissyroooo
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Al Awlaki was an immanent threat from thousand of miles away. He had to be executed.  But this suspected bomber with a possible explosive vest and described as armed and dangerous must be taken alive.  


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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The comedy is your postings...you can not be taken serious


Here is case on point!  Absurd comic relief from Cissyroooo


Just to clarify, box outranks you.  You are Major Idiot.LOL!


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Just to clarify, box outranks you.  You are Major Idiot.LOL!


To further clarify, you have risen to the top and have earned
your position as KING OF IGNORANCE EXPERT OF STUPIDITY!
You try so hard to sell yourself as informed and knowledgeable,
but it's NOT WORKING!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Just as disappointed as when you found out they attended government schools.


But were completely detached outsiders who never learned to socialize.
You know, like homeschoolers.
The wrestler guy reportedly never made a single friend.


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News said they won't give him his Miranda rights until he is interrogated and harsh interrogation methods might be used, does that mean he will be water boarded?


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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