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CICERO
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Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, & Syria were/are not threats to the United States.  This war is Vietnam on steroids.  Profit-Profit-Profit!!


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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading."
-- Attributed to Thomas Jefferson


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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They conveniently forget that Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons(which is
technically a WMD) on his own citizens.  



Of course I disagree with most or DVOR's post, but let's take just this one point...
Saddam using chemical weapons (a WMD) on the Kurds, his own people.

Where did Saddam get this WMD Chemical Weapons capacity???


The USA supports Iraq's Chemical Weapons program
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons'
Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-weapons.html


On this issue, it is clear that as long as Saddam was fighting Iran and wanted chemical weapons,
the Reagan administration was willing to support that program.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Like I said....I was already on this ride 6 years ago. So have fun with your necro thread




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading."
-- Attributed to Thomas Jefferson


Quotation: "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading."
Variations: none known
Sources consulted:
Papers of Thomas Jefferson Digital Edition
Thomas Jefferson retirement papers
Thomas Jefferson: Papers and Biographies collections in Hathi Trust Digital Library
Other attributions: none known

First known appearance in print: 1973
Quoted Text

First known attribution to Jefferson in print: We have found no attributions of this
quotation to Thomas Jefferson in print.
  It has been attributed to him on various
sites on the Internet (particularly discussion boards) since at least 2001.

~ This quotation has not been found in the writings of Thomas Jefferson.
  The language is somewhat uncharacteristic of Jefferson's style.  "Stand around" in
the sense used here is not an expression that can be found in Jefferson's letters.
He almost always wrote "every body" instead of "everybody."  And there are no
instances of the word "reload" (or variations thereof) referring to firearms in Jefferson's
writings.


It's Called TeaBagger Bull$hit!   

TeaBaggers love to "attribute" their words to Jefferson... and once a TeaBagger posts it,
the Right takes those words to be Jeffersons.  How embarrassing to be a TeaBagger...
It's not so much that they are fooled by these attribution, than that they are
willingly deceived!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Extremists like Box (and most of the Pelosi-palooza members of Congress) keep pushing the bull sh*t line that Saddam Hussein was not a threat .. that he was a good and decent man .. and that we were the bad guys for taking him out.

They conveniently forget that Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons(which is technically a WMD) on his own citizens.  They conveniently forget that Saddam Hussein and his weirdo sons would hand pick woman off of the street, rape and torture them and then dump their dead bodies outside the palace fence.  They conveniently forget that Saddam Hussein offered and PAID rewards to the families of suicide bombers who attacked targets in Israel and in other nations.  They conveniently forget that Saddam Hussein received from French companies (one owned by former French President and scuzz-ball Jaque Chirac)  and Russia equipment that was capable of producing chemical and biological weapons -- equipment that was packed up and shipped back to Russia and France in the weeks just before the U.S. intervention began.  They conveniently forget that Saddam Hussein publicly told the world and his own people that Iraq had a nuclear weapons program -- and the fact that it "vanished" does not not actually prove it didn't exist.  It could very well be that scum like Putin and Chirac helped make it disappear because they knew that George W. Bush would have kicked their asses if it was proven that they had been violating international sanctions and arming Saddam Hussein.

So on this tenth anniversary of the U.S. intervention in Iraq,  I reiterate that I am glad we stood up for what was right and good.  I am glad that Hussein is dead.  I am glad that Iraq is now on the road to Democracy. And I gladly invite those who disagree to pack their bags and go move to Iran or some Taliban cave and live like a sewer rat.



Saddam was getting ready to only accept Euros.

That is why he had to go.

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ALL NATIONS HAVE WEAPONS........THEY ARE CALLED HUMANS......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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No war crimes, we know that.  Perfectly legal state sponsored mass murderer.


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No war crimes, we know that.  Perfectly legal state sponsored mass murderer.


And now all Americans are held in the highest esteem by the entire Middle East who
saw the goodness of our paid killers.

We must be heroes to them.

Really, they hate us now more than ever before? That's weird.

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Quoted from CICERO


No war crimes, we know that.  Perfectly legal state sponsored mass murderer.


can't war crimes be categorized in "WHAT WENT WRONG"???? i would think so!!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Really, they hate us now more than ever before? That's weird.



What's weird is that we are the land of devils and killers and all that is bad in this world....
then you have migration of Muslims to this country in record numbers...
8million+ people live in NYC.....1million+ are muslims....
So if this country and everything about it is so bad, I am trying hard
to understand why they are coming here to live........they can't all be terrorists
or sleeper cells......what is attracting them to this evil land?????


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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What's weird is that we are the land of devils and killers and all that is bad in this world....
then you have migration of Muslims to this country in record numbers...
8million+ people live in NYC.....1million+ are muslims....
So if this country and everything about it is so bad, I am trying hard
to understand why they are coming here to live........they can't all be terrorists
or sleeper cells......what is attracting them to this evil land?????


Money.



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Saddam was getting ready to only accept Euros.

That is why he had to go.



YUP!!!!! And that IS what this is all about....and that is the ONLY reason why hundreds of thousands/millions are DEAD!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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can't war crimes be categorized in "WHAT WENT WRONG"???? i would think so!!!!!


Well wouldn't acknowledging the crimes and prosecuting the criminals be the logical first steps before finding out what went wrong?  I would think so!!!!

A few on this board want to gloss over those steps and go right to excusing them.  Ooops, sorry for killing your women and children, we'll try harder next time.


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