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Box A Rox
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Especially for Henry, Cicero and L4Life

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Since the Oklahoma City Bombing in 1995, 32 Law Enforcement Officers Have Been
MURDERED By Domestic Radical-Right Wing Extremists.





The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Where's all the innocent people who were killed by police by mistake by entering the wrong house and shooting the family pet as well as the homeowner. There's a riot going on in NYC because a police officer shot a 16 yr old in the back numerous times. Some witnesses say the teenager was unarmed but police say otherwise.
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Where's all the innocent people who were killed by police by mistake by entering the wrong
house and shooting the family pet as well as the homeowner.
By your own post, this incident was a MISTAKE, not done on purpose.

There's a riot going on in NYC because a police officer shot a 16 yr old in the back numerous times.
Some witnesses say the teenager was unarmed but police say otherwise.
If the police shot an unarmed man, they should be prosecuted


Neither of these cases have anything to do with the Sovereign Citizen Terrorists.



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When the police make mistakes like this they also create soverign citizen terrorists. Many militia groups were formed after Waco and  Ruby Ridge.
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When the police make mistakes like this they also create soverign citizen terrorists.
Many militia groups were formed after Waco and  Ruby Ridge.


Shadow comes down on the side of the Cop Murderers.  I'm sure you're not alone on this board.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Neither of these cases have anything to do with the Sovereign Citizen Terrorists.



Except for the fact that those actions caused the Sovereign citizens to organize.

Sovereigns are a reaction to government atrocities.

You built them.

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Where did I say that I side with cop murderers. I just stated a fact that when police officers act like they are above the law they turn people against them.
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Shadow comes down on the side of the Cop Murderers.  I'm sure you're not alone on this board.


Recognizing that atrocities cause cop killers isn't coming down on the side of them.

You are the one supporting policies that create cop killers and terrorists.

You are practically a North Korean leader.

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Where did I say that I side with cop murderers. I just stated a fact that when police officers act like they are above the law they turn people against them.


If I saw a cop acting like he was above the law I would likely work to get that cop fired for
the offense.  I might also work to build a 'citizens review board' if police misconduct is widespread.
No way would I join a group that sanctions killing any cop, just because there are a few bad cops.




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Most people wouldn't join a militia group, but there are some in this world that would and acting like storm troopers will just cause more who are inclined to join.
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Most people wouldn't join a militia group, but there are some in this world that would and acting like storm troopers will just cause more who are inclined to join.


I find human nature amazing!  I once saw a mom making excuses for her son mugging a guy...
She said:
"If the guy would have just given him his wallet, my son wouldn't have had to hit him with the board"!

Similar logic!  


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Back to the topic... Shadow.  I don't know if you have any kids, but would you be making excuses for
Sovereigns actions if it was one of your kids who were cops and shot for no reason by these terrorists???


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If I saw a cop acting like he was above the law I would likely work to get that cop fired for
the offense.  I might also work to build a 'citizens review board' if police misconduct is widespread.
No way would I join a group that sanctions killing any cop, just because there are a few bad cops.




Really, absolutely no way?

What if was your kid or your wife that was wrongfully killed, and the oversight people did nothing?

Oh well, I guess I'll turn the other cheek. Other people would seek vengeance.

Cop haters are born by every wrongful death.

Before you say it, no hating cops that are allowed to kill and continue to be cops is not
worse than the cops who kill.

Hating killing is not a hate crime. It's a natural reaction to an unnatural act of deadly violence.




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Killing anyone without just cause, cop or not, is wrong. I have 4 kids, 3 boys and 1 girl. I'm not making excuses for terrorists, just stating that the actions of some in power can cause some unstable individuals to join anti-government groups and Waco and Ruby Ridge prove my point.  
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Like Cic, Henry and L4Life... this kid is 'above the law'.




This kid sounds like a few crazies on this board!  I hope he lives and learn.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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