Quoted from joebxr

You jumped into my reply about VIOLENT, etc., and changed the term to deadly force...they are didfferent, but you stil don't see it...
not semantics, fact!!!

To address your last comment, let me explain orders my team and myself were under.  Sit down
because this goes against your image of Veitnam:
(a) do not initiate a firefight
(b) do not initiate an attack on civilians or others considered to be enemy
(c) do not return fire if fired upon unless approval recieved from command
(d) if approval not recieved retreat to safest position until help arrives
(e) unauthorized fire is not allowed
Now, realize this is not typical of others, becuase it really depended on what your repsonsibilites were,
where you were in country, and the political activities taking place at the same time that might dictate how
the US government wanted actions to be undertaken.

Surprised????  

Joe,
Cicero is wearing a special protective Teflon helmet...
Any information that does not fit his preconceived agenda, will bounce off his head and not be absorbed.
Facts bounce off Cicero like a sling shot off a battle ship.

I dislike much of L4Life's spew, but I don't hate him...
I pity him.  

Quoted from CICERO

No silly, the recruiters were at the court houses not the jail houses.  They were convincing judges to drop charges in exchange for enlistment.  Ya gotta catch'em before they get into the corrections facility.

What you didn't see unless you were in the courthouse was Judges giving petty criminals the option of prison or joining the military.
Recruiters didn't need to go solicit them...the Judicial system was sending them more than they ever realized.

Quoted from joebxr

AWWW L4L, I don't hate you...not in the least.
I just don't like the venomous hate mongering vomit that you like to spew.
You claimed very early on you would spit on me today becuase I was in Vietnam...
and you didn't have a clue who I was....and yet today I stil don't hate you for your ignorance...
I feel sorry for you and those around you that must live in your pathetic controlling world.
You do like to be King Poster, as you have displayed many times with your special BOLD double spacing
and HUGE font styles that are intended as attention getters....maybe you think everyone is stupid and doesn't
see right through you and your actions...BUT WE AREN'T and we see it.
Your whole being is based on WIIFM, and nothing else.
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY !!!  HOPE YOUR WEEKEND IS GREAT TOO !!!!

My hate mongering words against death and violence. That's a different twist.

Kurt Myers said similar things in his letter to the editor.

WIIFM is tattooed on your chest.

You could be rejected for military services on the basis of traffic violations... the more serious the violation
or crime, the less likely the military would accept you for service:

Quoted Text

Suitability review will be conducted on the following charges (regardless of disposition) prior to any
moral waiver processing on all applicants:

Five or more minor nontraffic charges
Two or more misdemeanor charges
Combination of four or more minor nontraffic or misdemeanor charges
One serious criminal misconduct charge

The following are typical serious criminal misconduct offenses:

Act of violence to include threats against any school faculty members, when a penalty was
imposed by school officials (for example, expulsion, suspension, fine, or community service).
Waiver approval authority is the recruiting battalion commander, acting commander, or executive officer.
Aggravated assault, assault with dangerous weapon (brigade-level suitability).
Arson (brigade-level suitability).
Attempt to commit a felony.
Breaking and entering.
Bribery.
Burglary (possession of tools), to include auto.
Carjacking.
Carnal knowledge of a minor.
Carrying of weapon on school grounds, when a penalty was imposed by school officials
(for example, expulsion, suspension, fine, or community service). Waiver approval authority
is the recruiting battalion commander, acting commander, or executive officer.
Check, worthless, making or uttering, with intent to defraud or deceive ($500 or more).
Child abuse (CG, USAREC-level suitability).
Criminal libel.
Domestic battery/violence, considered under the Lautenburg Amendment
(CG, USAREC-level suitability). See below for definition of the Lautenburg Amendment.
Domestic battery/violence not resulting in a qualifying Lautenburg conviction.
Waiver approval authority is the recruiting battalion commander, acting commander,
or executive officer.
Driving while intoxicated (DWI), driving under the influence (DUI), or driving while impaired
because of substance abuse, alcohol, drugs, or any other condition that impaired judgment
or driving ability. Waiver approval authority is the recruiting battalion commander, acting
commander, or executive officer. If the applicant has two DWIs/DUIs and one of them is
longer than five years from date of enlistment, a waiver may be approved by the Commanding
General of the Army Recruiting Command.
Embezzlement n. Extortion.
Forgery; knowingly uttering or passing forged instrument.
Graft.
Hate Crimes (CG, USAREC-level suitability).
Illegal/fraudulent use of a credit card, bank card, or automated card (value of $500 or more).

Quoted from Libertarian4life

WIIFM is tattooed on your chest.

you have us mixed up dude.....
(a) no tats on me
(b) never consider myself first (shows you don't know me at all)
(c) WIFFM is your creed
(d) we would have LOVED YOU in boot camp !!!!!!!!    

Quoted from joebxr

you have us mixed up dude.....
(a) no tats on me
(b) never consider myself first (shows you don't know me at all)
(c) WIFFM is your creed
(d) we would have LOVED YOU in boot camp !!!!!!!!    

BOOT CAMP!!!  
L4Life was a flower child.  In his mind, HE ENDED THE VIETNAM WAR!

Quoted from Box A Rox

You could be rejected for military services on the basis of traffic violations... the more serious the violation
or crime, the less likely the military would accept you for service:

Not in the 60s.

They took all criminals.

Quoted from Box A Rox

BOOT CAMP!!!  
L4Life was a flower child.  In his mind, HE ENDED THE VIETNAM WAR!

My hair was much longer than that.

At least I didn't surrender the south to the north.

I won by not being a participant in your murder games.

So do we count Kurt Myers and his victims as the latest arrivals in the Viet Nam conflict death tolls?

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Not in the 60s.

They took all criminals.

PROVE IT or IT'S JUST ANOTHER L4L LIE

Quoted from Libertarian4life

So do we count Kurt Myers and his victims as the latest arrivals in the Viet Nam conflict death tolls?

In your mind it is so..............

Is Kurt Meyers a Vietnam Vet or is L4Life just posting through his butt again???

Do you think 'Il Duce' Cuomo was hanging by the phone......

Quoted from CICERO

No silly, the recruiters were at the court houses not the jail houses.  They were convincing judges to drop charges in exchange for enlistment.  Ya gotta catch'em before they get into the corrections facility.

there were, especially during the nam war, criminals that were given the option of .... jail time or war time!! FACT!!! That practice continues today folks!!!