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Worst part you know damn well the guy will sue and the taxpayers will get the bill.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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When I had my first physical from this doctor, he asked me if I had any guns at home.  I said yes.  He
asked if they were locked... I replied that they had trigger locks.  He said OK, and that was that.

He also asked me if I drank or if I smoked and if I wore my seatbelt...  I have no problem with any of that.
All of those questions are related to my health, and my health is the reason that I went to see him in the
first place.  If I didn't want to answer those questions, I could have declined.





you still don't get it do you? a simple act of saying "well, I guess this is reasonable" because you didn't look around
or behind the curtain, leads to a simple act of a law/regulation/mandate. Like your SS # and drivers license.
your MD now becomes a tool of the law by your saying "well, I guess this is reasonable" as if they know better than
yourself....

I don't understand how you think that other humans have an inch in your grey matter because you think they're
'reasonable'....reasonable as compared to what plumb line? yours or theirs?

your right I don't have to answer and neither does anyone else. I have seen MD progress notes and they can write
ANYTHING they want. and one word is non-compliant....along with diagnosis...remember-once a diagnosis always
a diagnosis...no different than your identity getting hacked by a 'non-professional'.....

you ought to wake up Box, especially if you have offspring. unless of course your offspring are part of this building
process of a brave new world.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Development of Theory
Michel Foucault claims in Western culture, the contemporary concept of police paid by the government was developed by French legal scholars and practitioners in the 17th and early 18th centuries, notably with Nicolas Delamare's Traité de la Police ("Treatise on the Police"), first published in 1705. The German Polizeiwissenschaft (Science of Police) first theorized by Johann Heinrich Gottlob Justi was also an important theoretical work on the formulation of police.[17]
As conceptualized by the Polizeiwissenschaft, the police had an economic and social duty ("procuring abundance"). It was in charge of demographic concerns and needed to be incorporated within the western political philosophy system of raison d'état and therefore giving the superficial appearance of empowering the population (and unwittingly supervising the population), which, according to mercantilist theory, was to be the main strength of the state. Thus, its functions largely overreached simple law enforcement activities and included public health concerns, urban planning (which was important because of the miasma theory of disease; thus, cemeteries were moved out of town, etc.), and surveillance of prices.[18]
Development of modern police was contemporary to the formation of the state, later defined by sociologist Max Weber as achieving a "monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force" and which was primarily exercised by the police and the military. Marxist theory situates the development of the modern state as part of the rise of capitalism, in which the police are one component of the bourgeoisie's repressive apparatus for subjugating the working class.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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I see no problem with the actions of the officers,


not surprised...not only did you see no problem, you popped a chubby watching it.  

I would imagine that the Schenectady grandmother that killed her grandson use the same compliance technique.  She will go to prison(rightfully so) and this guy will receive praise from the message board cop-suckers.  


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you still don't get it do you? a simple act of saying "well, I guess this is reasonable" because you didn't look around
or behind the curtain, leads to a simple act of a law/regulation/mandate. Like your SS # and drivers license.
your MD now becomes a tool of the law by your saying "well, I guess this is reasonable" as if they know better than
yourself....

I don't understand how you think that other humans have an inch in your grey matter because you think they're
'reasonable'....reasonable as compared to what plumb line? yours or theirs?

your right I don't have to answer and neither does anyone else. I have seen MD progress notes and they can write
ANYTHING they want. and one word is non-compliant....along with diagnosis...remember-once a diagnosis always
a diagnosis...no different than your identity getting hacked by a 'non-professional'.....

you ought to wake up Box, especially if you have offspring. unless of course your offspring are part of this building
process of a brave new world.


Some one offers Senders... "HAVE A NICE DAY" he will object and feel threatened by the gesture.

I don't see evil lurking everywhere... but you seem to.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Some one offers Senders... "HAVE A NICE DAY" he will object and feel threatened by the gesture.

I don't see evil lurking everywhere... but you seem to.


I would accept a 'have a nice day' from you or my neighbor....no problem

but when a person or entity has 'authority' over me....OF COURSE I QUESTION IT...everyone should silly...


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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I would accept a 'have a nice day' from you or my neighbor....no problem

but when a person or entity has 'authority' over me....OF COURSE I QUESTION IT...everyone should silly...


I rest my case.  It isn't the words that are a problem... it's a total rejection of any authority... no matter
what the source.
(BTW, I don't consider my doctor to have 'authority' over me.)


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I would accept a 'have a nice day' from you or my neighbor....no problem

but when a person or entity has 'authority' over me....OF COURSE I QUESTION IT...everyone should silly...


YUP
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I rest my case.  It isn't the words that are a problem... it's a total rejection of any authority... no matter
what the source.
(BTW, I don't consider my doctor to have 'authority' over me.)


apparently you don't think a professional MD on the stand has more weight than your own testimony?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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apparently you don't think a professional MD on the stand has more weight than your own testimony?


A professional MD on the stand has more weight in matters of medicine if that is his profession...
on any other matter his word is as good as mine.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Regulations of the Commissioner

Section 52.35, Psychoanalysis

§52.35. Psychoanalysis.

In addition to meeting all applicable provisions of this Part, to be registered as a program recognized as leading to licensure in psychoanalysis, which meets the requirements of section 79-12.1 of this Title, the program shall meet the requirements of this section.

The program shall be offered by a psychoanalytic institute chartered by the Board of Regents, or an institution authorized by its charter or by authorization of the Board of Regents to confer degrees in New York State. The program shall lead to a certificate of completion, which shall be conferred upon students who successfully complete the program.
In order to be admitted into the program, the program shall require the student to have completed a master's or higher degree program in any field registered by the department pursuant to this Part, or a substantially equivalent program.
The course of study shall include coursework substantially equivalent to coursework required in a master's degree program in a health or mental health field of study. The course of study shall include a total of at least 1,350 clock hours of study, distributed as set forth in this subdivision in the following four categories: coursework, personal psychoanalysis, supervised analysis, and clinical experience.
Coursework. The program shall include at least 45 clock hours of classroom instruction in each of the following areas, totaling at least 405 clock hours of classroom instruction:
personality development;
psychoanalytic theory of psychopathology;
psychoanalytic theory of psychodiagnosis;
sociocultural influence on growth and psychopathology;
practice technique (including dreams and symbolic processes);
analysis of resistance, transference, and countertransference;
case seminars on clinical practice;
practice in psychopathology and psychodiagnosis; and
professional ethics and psychoanalytic research methodology.
Personal psychoanalysis. The program shall require the student to complete at least 300 clock hours of personal psychoanalysis.
Supervised analysis. The program shall include at least 150 clock hours of supervised analysis of the student's psychoanalytic cases. The supervised analysis shall include:
50 clock hours of individual supervision with one supervisor working on one case; and
at least 100 clock hours of individual supervision with another supervisor working on one or more additional cases.
Clinical experience. The program shall require the student to complete at least 300 clock hours of supervised clinical experience in the practice of psychoanalysis, as defined in section 8405(1) of the Education Law. The clinical experience shall meet the requirements set forth in section 79-12.3 of this Title. In addition, if the setting for the clinical experience is not within the institution offering the program itself, a written contract or agreement shall be executed between the institution and clinical facility which is designated to cooperate in providing the clinical experience, which shall set forth the responsibilities of each party, and shall be signed by the responsible officer of each party.


sounds like voodoo to me.....or religion....you pick


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Regulations of the Commissioner

Section 52.32, Mental Health Counseling

§52.32. Mental Health Counseling.

In addition to meeting all applicable provisions of this Part, to be registered as a program recognized as leading to licensure in mental health counseling, which meets the requirements of section 79-9.1 of this Title, the program shall:

be a master's or doctoral degree program in counseling;
through December 31, 2009, include at least 48 semester hours, or the equivalent, of study, and effective January 1, 2010 and thereafter, include at least 60 semester hours, or the equivalent, of study;
contain curricular content that includes but is not limited to each of the following content areas:
human growth and development;
social and cultural foundations of counseling;
counseling theory and practice;
psychopathology;
group dynamics;
lifestyle and career development;
assessment and appraisal of individuals, couples, families and groups;
research and program evaluation;
professional orientation and ethics;
foundations of mental health counseling and consultation;
clinical instruction; and
include a supervised internship or supervised practicum in mental health counseling of at least one-year, defined as at least 600 clock hours for purposes of this section.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Section 52.33, Marriage and Family Therapy

§52.33, Marriage and Family Therapy.

In addition to meeting all applicable provisions of this Part, to be registered as a program recognized as leading to licensure in marriage and family therapy, which meets the requirements of section 79-10.1 of this Title, the program shall:

be a program in marriage and family therapy leading to a master's or doctoral degree, which includes at least 45 semester hours, or the equivalent, of study;
contain curricular content that includes but is not limited to each of the following content areas:
the study of human development, including individual, child and family development, at least three semester hours;
marriage and family therapy clinical knowledge, including but not limited to psychopathology, at least twelve semester hours;
marriage and family therapy theoretical knowledge, at least six semester hours;
family law;
research, at least three semester hours; and
professional ethics, at least three semester hours; and
include a supervised practicum in marriage and family therapy of at least 300 client contact hours.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Chicago paid out $32,000,000 in police brutality law suits last year.
They really should list it as a separate item on their tax bills.

Punishment for police misconduct, your share............$165.


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Chicago paid out $32,000,000 in police brutality law suits last year.
They really should list it as a separate item on their tax bills.

Punishment for police misconduct, your share............$165.


Statistics - DOJ/FBI Uniform Crime Report(UCR)
2010, April - mid-December 2009 (8.5 months)
Police Misconduct Report

    3,445 police misconduct reports;
    4,012 officers charged;
    261 law enforcement officials (police chiefs or sheriffs) cited;
    4,778 alleged victims;
    258 fatalities reported;
    an average of 15.05 daily incidents or one every 96 minutes;
    nearly $200 million in related civil litigation expense, excluding legal fees and court costs;
    980.64 per 100,000 officers charged;
    one of every 266 officers accused of a violent crime;
    one of every 1,875 charged with homicide;
    one of every 947 accused of sexual assault;
    33% of police officers charged were convicted, not necessarily justly for the offense committed;
    64% of officers convicted were imprisoned, not necessarily as long as justified;
    those sentenced served an average 14 months, far less than citizens for the same crime;
    misconduct by category included 18.1% for non-firearm related excessive force; 11.9% for sexual misconduct;
    and 8.9% for fraud or theft;
    analyzing reports by last reported status showed 45.9% affected officers adversely, including 14% internally disciplined and 31.9% criminally charged; of the latter, 32.5% were convicted "for a 10.4% total criminal conviction rate for alleged misconduct incidents; and
    27% resulted in civil lawsuits, 34.3% favoring victims.

In addition, data were compiled for states, cities and counties, excluding unavailable federal statistics as well as local omissions, especially in some states. Various offenses included:

    accountability: evidence of coverups, lax discipline, and other failures to adhere to official policies or processes;
    animal cruelty, harming them by unnecessary shooting, inappropriate KP unit training, or other mistreatment;
    assault: "unwarranted violence" off-duty, excluding murder;
    auto incidents involving recklessness, negligence, and other violations of official policies;
    brutality, involving excessive physical force on-duty, excluding firearms or tasers;
    civil rights, including unconstitutional civil liberties violations such as lawless peaceful protest disruptions;
    sexual misconduct, including rape, sexual assault, sexual battery, wrongfully eliciting sex, harassment, coercion, prostitution, sex on duty, incest, and molestation;
    theft or fraud, including robbery, shoplifting, extortion or bribery;
    shooting: gun-related incidents both on and off-duty, including self-harm;
    taser: excessive force, including usage not according to guidelines, resulting in excessive injury or death; also, improper taser use may be recorded as "brutality;"
    color of law, including incidents involving misuse of authority such as bribery, soliciting favors, extortion by threat of arrest, or using badges to avoid arrest;
    perjury, including false testimony, dishonesty during investigations, and falsifying charging papers or warrants; and
    raids, including misconduct during warranted or warrantless operations or searches, wrong address raids, mistaken ones, use of no-knock ones when warrants require notification, or mistreatment during executions.

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