Quoted from Libertarian4life

Call it a conspiracy if that floats your boat.

GEE, Guess TIC only applies when others do it....

Quoted from Libertarian4life

They tried to execute the suspicious 15 year old.

Ahh yes, I forgot that all the facts have come in.

Nothing being said is speculation, because there has been accurate reporting of incident.

We know that first reports and reports over following days have contradictory information.

But, we have "in the know" members that are not judgmental, they just know what is really going on!

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Paranoid freaks.

REALLY??? I'd say those that are quick to make irresponsible comments are the ones that are paranoid!!!

If anybody else opened fire on a suspicious 15 year old pulling in their driveway they would be George Zimmerman'd by the media.  But since these were government guards in costumes "let's wait for all the facts".  Which is code for - give us time to concoct a story to justify it.

Quoted from CICERO

If anybody else opened fire on a suspicious 15 year old pulling in their driveway they would be George Zimmerman'd by the media.  But since these were government guards in costumes "let's wait for all the facts".  Which is code for - give us time to concoct a story to justify it.

Or code for "Let's try not to give out false information like has been done historically. Let's make sure we know what happened and report it accurately, or people will be crying cover-up and conspiracy!"

Quoted from joebxr

Or code for "Let's try not to give out false information like has been done historically. Let's make sure we know what happened and report it accurately, or people will be crying cover-up and conspiracy!"

I'm not saying it's a cover-up.  Just a double standard.  Government agents historically get more latitude when using force against perceived threats.  I agree with you that all the facts are not reported, but I'll go out on a limb and say if it did happen, the guard will never be charged with assault or stand trial.  AKA - get Zimmerman'd.

Quoted from CICERO

I'm not saying it's a cover-up.  Just a double standard.  Government agents historically get more latitude when using force against perceived threats.  I agree with you that all the facts are not reported, but I'll go out on a limb and say if it did happen, the guard will never be charged with assault or stand trial.  AKA - get Zimmerman'd.

Glad you agree on hope that all the facts become know, and if guilty then people need to be charged.
BUT...."...give us time to concoct a story to justify it."....if that isn't another way to say cover-up, then what is it?  
You only concoct a story when you want to cover-up the truth!!!!

Quoted from joebxr

BUT...."...give us time to concoct a story to justify it."....if that isn't another way to say cover-up, then what is it?  
You only concoct a story when you want to cover-up the truth!!!!

Not at all.  My opinion is that the 15 year old's presence on the FDA property and his "suspicious" action will be determined to be enough cause for the guard to shoot.  The evidencr of suspicion is completely subjective.   Not a cover-up but justification.  

Quoted from CICERO

Not at all.  My opinion is that the 15 year old's presence on the FDA property and his "suspicious" action will be determined to be enough cause for the guard to shoot.  The evidencr of suspicion is completely subjective.   Not a cover-up but justification.  

Then I would only say that use of the word CONCOCT was ill chosen considering your intent...K
IMHO

Quoted from joebxr

Then I would only say that use of the word CONCOCT was ill chosen considering your intent...K
IMHO

The 15 year old was already booked for second degree assault.  The security guards that shot the kid were not booked for anything.  The wheels of "justice" are already turning.  The 15 year old that was shot has already been determined by the "authorities" guilty enough to be charged and detained.  Not the guards though.

That was the big outcry in the Trayvon Martin incident.  People were outraged that Zimmerman was never arrested or detained until the investigation was complete.  

The judgement of government agents is rarely questioned.  They shoot first and ask questions later because the chances of them being held accountable is unlikely.

I'll have to agree with you again.  Concoct isn't the right word.  There is no need to concoct a story. A government agents right to assault citizens with lethal force when they feel threatened is the accepted culture in America.  Every jury in America would find the government agent innocent of excessive force(known as assault for the rest of us).

Quoted from CICERO

The 15 year old was already booked for second degree assault.

Quoted Text

A 15-year-old boy was shot in the foot after the car he was driving struck a security guard at a Food and Drug Administration lab in Bothell on Friday morning, according to police.

The individual fled on foot, then returned to the parking lot in the 22200 block of 23rd Drive Southeast, got into a car and struck at least one of the guards while backing up, according to Shari Ireton, a spokeswoman for the Sheriff’s Office.

Quoted Text

Second degree assault may involve intentional or reckless serious physical injury to another person, or physical injury to any person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument. It may involve interfering with a police officer, emergency responder, or teacher, while performing their duties.

Sure sounds like assault to me. Ran away, then got into a 3,000lb assault weapon and returned to strike the guard.

Quoted from joebxr

Sure sounds like assault to me. Ran away, then got into a 3,000lb assault weapon and returned to strike the guard.

He's 15, not legal to drive.  How do you know the intent?  May have been an accident from lack of experience.(could be part of a concocted story)

But more proof that Americans readily take the side of the government guards.  Stories don't need to be concocted.  Americans have no sense of skepticism anymore.  There is no need for due process in a nation of obedient statist sheep.

Quoted from CICERO

He's 15, not legal to drive.  How do you know the intent?  May have been an accident from lack of experience.(could be part of a concocted story)

But more proof that Americans readily take the side of the government guards.  Stories don't need to be concocted.  Americans have no sense of skepticism anymore.  There is no need for due process in a nation of obedient statist sheep.

Not taking sides.
At 15 he could hold an instruction permit....so maybe he knew how to drive...just illegal operation of a motor vehicle.
Not sure they charged him with that.

Nothing concocted...he ran away. Could have kept going, but instead chose to get in a car
and return and hit one of the guards....sounds like stupid choices, one after another.

You keep referring to sheeple...just because I choose to look at everything and NOT JUDGE what is final factual evidence until everything has been reported. Of course at that point you will likely say it was CONCOCTED if the evidence proves the guards were justified.

Have you read anything yet that says why these two teens were there and what they actually did, other than "suspicious persons"? Do we know if they had other weapons? Do we know if they fired on the guards? Do we know if they had committed any kind of crime?  The only thing you focus on is the government "concoction"!

You want this to be a government cover-up, fu*k-up so bad, that's the only way you can discuss it!
Me, I choose to view it as a sad situation...it's a total failure of our society, PERIOD!

Quoted from CICERO

He's 15, not legal to drive.  How do you know the intent?  May have been an accident from lack of experience.(could be part of a concocted story)

But more proof that Americans readily take the side of the government guards.  Stories don't need to be concocted.  Americans have no sense of skepticism anymore.  There is no need for due process in a nation of obedient statist sheep.

Police physically block fleeing vehicles to force the fleeing person to hit him or be caught, thereby
also justifying deadly force. It used to happen lot, until the common sense question is asked, when
a person gets into a car, what makes you think you can stop him with your body? The answer is, you
can't stop them but incidental contact allows for summary execution.

Now depending on who the kid belongs to, and his reputation, he will likely get probation.

2nd degree assault with a vehicle while not committing a crime will likely be plea bargained down
to criminal trespass.

Justification for the shooting will also depend on what family owns the kid.

Quoted from joebxr

Nothing concocted...he ran away. Could have kept going, but instead chose to get in a car
and return and hit one of the guards....sounds like stupid choices, one after another.

First he ran away, then returned for his car when he thought it was clear.

Obviously they knew he would return for the car and waited for him.

I said nothing of a cover-up.  I clearly pointed out that the victim of the shooting was arrested and the perpetrators of the shooting have not.  So of the people involved in the incident - the gun shot victim was charged and detained, and I have yet to read if the shooter was charged and detained.  No conspiracy, that's the facts as reported.  

Again, if at my place of business a 15 year old nearly runs me over with a car in the parking lot, BUT DOESN'T, can I fire bullets into his car and not be detained and charged with a crime?

Quoted from Libertarian4life

First he ran away, then returned for his car when he thought it was clear.

Obviously they knew he would return for the car and waited for him.

That's a long stretch assumption...how could you say they even knew he had a car....PULEEZE!!!!!
Reports (maybe inaccurate) said he got in "a" car.....onlyh indication it might have been his (and not a good indicator) is that he drove it to his house.
Very likely could have been a stolen car to begin with!  Why can't we make that assumption?  It's just as accurate as your point that they knew he had a car!!!!