Quoted from Box A Rox

Yet one more TeaBagger law enacted in opposition to the US Constitution.

That law has LIMITED jurisdiction as it is a federal law.
A similar California law led to the conviction of Scott Peterson on two counts of Murder...one for his wife Laci Petersen and one for her unborn child.
I seriously doubt the Tea Party has much influence in California. Other states have similar laws on the books.

L4Life's point remains valid, despite your Tea Party re-direct.

Quoted from 55tbird

That law has LIMITED jurisdiction as it is a federal law.
A similar California law led to the conviction of Scott Peterson on two counts of Murder...one for his wife Laci Petersen and one for her unborn child.
I seriously doubt the Tea Party has much influence in California. Other states have similar laws on the books.

L4Life's point remains valid, despite your Tea Party re-direct.

Had the fetus been the only victim, Peterson may have gotten off on the MURDER charge.

There are lots of laws on the books that won't stand up to a constitutional challenge.

Quoted from Box A Rox

There are lots of laws on the books that won't stand up to a constitutional challenge.

This one will. according to legal experts;

"Some prominent legal scholars who strongly support Roe v. Wade, such as Prof. Walter Dellinger of Duke University Law School, Richard Parker of Harvard, and Sherry F. Colb of Rutgers Law School, have written that fetal homicide laws do not conflict with Roe v. Wade."

Morally and common sense wise? That's a different story

Quoted from Box A Rox

Cicero is legendary for missing the point (or deflecting the point) of a post.

My post was about Cicero's dream for a Utopian government.  America's standard of living was created
by a multitude of factors... government, private industry, philanthropy, etc.

Cicero's view would make Somalia look like a paradise.


Somalia has a literacy rate of 37%, mostly due to Government financed Compulsory Education
before the Civil War.
It's infant mortality rate is 3rd highest in the world, and life expectancy is roughly 50 for those
who survive their first year.

In Cicero's 'perfect government' much of what the citizens of Somalia receive from their government
would be considered 'frivolous' and would be eliminated.

there is no utopian government...that's the point TO YOU.....although you keep up the soap opera of the political
parties as if that really matters....this isn't a baseball game or a football game or a basketball game where everyone
roots for their teams (dems/reps)...it's called since latin was removed from public schools those in the business of
social engineering have just been legislating all over the place using crap like laws named after dead kids/politicians and
animals not to mention the legalism of our society called 'caution: contents hot'.....it's like telling your offspring they
are too stupid to graduate/drive/dress/tie their shoes etc etc.....

I'm all happy for clean water/electricity/roads etc.....what I was wondering is the value for the taxes paid..whether
they go to water/other countries/guns/boats/warehouses/salaries of our keepers etc etc....