Before the NYS law was passed there were assault rifles that were legal under the law, after passage of the law the state changed the way that they determine what makes a gun an assault weapon making a previous legal gun illegal under the new law. You could own a gun that had 2 features and be legal to the new version where if it has 1 of these features it is now illegal: pistol grip, thumbhole stock, flash hider, bayonet holder, or muzzle brake. There are also a lot of high powered rifles with muzzle brakes used to reduce recoil.
If you want the TRUTH and the FACTS of this hoax, go to the site below... If you would rather believe that EVERYTHING is actually a 'government hoax' then please go on believing any bogus story from some obscure conspiracy site as if it were the truth.
The truth is often boring and dull but FACTS often are boring and dull. Conspiracy, on the other hand, is always provocative, exciting and fun!
There seem to be a certain group of people who go out of their way to ignore the FACTS and embrace a good conspiracy... for those people, FACTS are an annoyance and not to be trusted.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Before the NYS law was passed there were assault rifles that were legal under the law, after passage of the law the state changed the way that they determine what makes a gun an assault weapon making a previous legal gun illegal under the new law. You could own a gun that had 2 features and be legal to the new version where if it has 1 of these features it is now illegal: pistol grip, thumbhole stock, flash hider, bayonet holder, or muzzle brake. There are also a lot of high powered rifles with muzzle brakes used to reduce recoil.
thanks Shadow
Box does not understand why so many gun owners are upset.
He/she also does not understand about the Constitution.
Before the NYS law was passed there were assault rifles that were legal under the law, after passage of the law the state changed the way that they determine what makes a gun an assault weapon making a previous legal gun illegal under the new law. You could own a gun that had 2 features and be legal to the new version where if it has 1 of these features it is now illegal: pistol grip, thumbhole stock, flash hider, bayonet holder, or muzzle brake. There are also a lot of high powered rifles with muzzle brakes used to reduce recoil.
If posters here posted FACTS instead of Right Wing HYPE, possibly we all could come to some consensus on this issue.
Joebxr posted a good information site about the NY Gun Law... it contains FACTS! Apparently some posters are allergic to FACTS, and much prefer OPINION and HYPE.
Q: I have an assault weapon. Do I have to give it up?
A: No. If you have an assault weapon, you can register it with the State Police. You have until April 15, 2014 to register your weapon. A form will be made available on this website no later than April 15, 2013. Under state and federal law, some people are not allowed to possess a weapon, such as convicted felons, individuals who have been involuntarily committed, or individuals currently under an order of protection. These people will not be able to register. There is no fee for registering.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
thanks Shadow Box does not understand why so many gun owners are upset. He/she also does not understand about the Constitution.
I am not a Constitutional Law expert... I don't know you but I doubt that you are an expert either.
I did consult experts on the 2nd amendment... and I did quote supreme court decisions on this issue. Both agree with my views... If I am in error RP, please show me where I made a mistake about the 2nd amendment. I'm open to an opposing view backed up by facts.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Q: I have an assault weapon. Do I have to give it up?
A: No. If you have an assault weapon, you can register it with the State Police. You have until April 15, 2014 to register your weapon. A form will be made available on this website no later than April 15, 2013. Under state and federal law, some people are not allowed to possess a weapon, such as convicted felons, individuals who have been involuntarily committed, or individuals currently under an order of protection. These people will not be able to register. There is no fee for registering.
definition? very subjective....remember once a diagnosis always a diagnosis...you can't disprove that kind of diagnosis even if it's wrong....
we have made 'gods' over us, out of our fellow humans...now that's more dangerous than an assault weapon
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Before the NYS law was passed there were assault rifles that were legal under the law, after passage of the law the state changed the way that they determine what makes a gun an assault weapon making a previous legal gun illegal under the new law. You could own a gun that had 2 features and be legal to the new version where if it has 1 of these features it is now illegal: pistol grip, thumbhole stock, flash hider, bayonet holder, or muzzle brake. There are also a lot of high powered rifles with muzzle brakes used to reduce recoil.
Not a single feature listed as qualifying a weapon as an assault weapon contributed to Sandy Hook.
How does a collapsible stock, pistol grip, flash suppressor or bayonet holder make a weapon more dangerous?
How does a 7 round clip make a 10 round clip weapon safer?
Saying that you can have a 10 round clip, but can only have 7 in it, will only apply to the law abiding users.
Criminals and crazies will do whatever the hell they want.
It's mass hysteria, pure and simple. The assault style weapons look scary to the timid and easily frightened types.
The new gun laws will make the state absolutely no safer for anyone.
Registering a gun that was legal last year is not going to make the gun legal, it is still an illegal registered gun under the new NYS gun law. I will be interested to see how many assualt weapon owners will register their guns under the NYS law. Criminals will still bring in guns from other states just like they do drugs and it will be a way for them to make a lot of money doing it.
Registering a gun that was legal last year is not going to make the gun legal, it is still an illegal registered gun under the new NYS gun law. I will be interested to see how many assualt weapon owners will register their guns under the NYS law. Criminals will still bring in guns from other states just like they do drugs and it will be a way for them to make a lot of money doing it.
No Shadow... if you own an assault weapon today and register it when required, it will be a LEGALLY OWNED GUN. You can keep it, fire it, and use it (legally).
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Can I transfer it to someone other than family, can I sell it to the guy next door, it not then why not, because it just became illegal because of the new law.
Can I transfer it to someone other than family, can I sell it to the guy next door, it not then why not, because it just became illegal because of the new law.
One More Time..... IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO OWN!
Q: I have an assault weapon. Do I have to give it up?
A: No. If you have an assault weapon, you can register it with the State Police. You have until April 15, 2014 to register your weapon. A form will be made available on this website no later than April 15, 2013. Under state and federal law, some people are not allowed to possess a weapon, such as convicted felons, individuals who have been involuntarily committed, or individuals currently under an order of protection. These people will not be able to register. There is no fee for registering.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
My point is that a gun that was not considered an assault weapon last year is now considered an assault weapon since this law was passed because of things on the gun that have nothing to do with an assault weapon. A pistol grip, muzzle brake, bayonet holder, folding stock, or thumbhole stock can kill no one and are harmless and if placed on another type of gun would make that gun an assault weapon. If there's another mass shooting, and there will be, will this state pass another law making it illegal to posess an assault weapon then just go out and collect them using the data in their computers???
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