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Box A Rox
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Now you're morphing from your premise that armed security in schools puts kids at risk(except for public figure's children), to now armed security for American children is too expensive.  Which is it box?  


Do I think that a highly trained SS guard is going to work for a local elementary school for minimum wage?
No.
Do I think that those SS guards are expensive?
Yup.
Do I think that the quality of an armed minimum wage security guard with very little training in our
schools is a danger to the children there?
I definitely do!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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America's court jesters fear and pay others to 'pack heat' or 'pack muscle' for them......as do their 'king/queen handlers'......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Box doesn't know where to go, every spin attempt failed by his own previous posts, to funny.


As posted earlier... for some people, reason and logic doesn't penetrate their stubborn agenda.  

I've posted my view... I even used the opening post of this thread to show how armed guards can
be a danger to the school... a danger that didn't exist before hiring the armed guard... even in an
expensive private school.
  
You are entitled to your opinion... no matter how misguided.


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As posted earlier... for some people, reason and logic doesn't penetrate their stubborn agenda.  

I've posted my view... I even used the opening post of this thread to show how armed guards can
be a danger to the school... a danger that didn't exist before hiring the armed guard... even in an
expensive private school.
  
You are entitled to your opinion... no matter how misguided.


your 'gods'/government are armed guards....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Ahhh..Box gave up.  Smart move on his part.  He made it obvious that he carries the water for the elitist crowd.


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On January 13, 2013, Representative Rosa DeLauro (D-Connecticut) introduced H.R. 226.IH,
“Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act,” a bill that will amend the
1996 IRS tax code and “allow a credit against tax for surrendering to authorities certain assault
weapons.” Representative Raul Grijalva (D-Arizona) has co-sponsored the bill. The bill was referred
to the Committee on Ways and Means on January 14, 2013. People who turn in assault weapons
can receive a $1.000 tax credit per year for two years, for a total credit of $2,000.


Among the weapons included in the bill is the Bushmaster AR-15 that was used in the Sandy
Hook Elementary School massacre in Newtown, Connecticut.

We can only hope that this bill passes... and gets a few assault weapons off the streets...
but the big attraction to this bill would be watching the Righties see their tax dollars buying
assault weapons to be destroyed!


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Look at him he's throwing anything out there now, he's falling apart before our eyes hahaha


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Among the weapons included in the bill is the Bushmaster AR-15 that was used in the Sandy
Hook Elementary School massacre in Newtown, Connecticut.

We can only hope that this bill passes... and gets a few assault weapons off the streets...
but the big attraction to this bill would be watching the Righties see their tax dollars buying
assault weapons to be destroyed!


the plebs are a bunch of idiots.....really?....so how about the tax credits for paying my bills on my own?

what does a fu(king gun have to do with the IRS?

those who control the $$ control the masses
those who control the guns control the masses
those who control the healthcare control the masses
those who control the food supply control the masses
those who control the water supply control the masses
those who control the diagnosis control the masses
etc
etc
etc


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Among the weapons included in the bill is the Bushmaster AR-15 that was used in the Sandy
Hook Elementary School massacre in Newtown, Connecticut.

We can only hope that this bill passes... and gets a few assault weapons off the streets...
but the big attraction to this bill would be watching the Righties see their tax dollars buying
assault weapons to be destroyed!


I don't think 'little Johnny' was looking for $$ and neither was his mother


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Tbird, if you don't see the difference between the risk involved in the US presidents kids and the risk of
an average school kid in school... nothing that I can do will enlighten you.

All kids IMO have the same value, but not all kids face the same risk.  A child in a terrible neighborhood where
guns in school are a common event is at a greater risk than a kid in a typical suburban school... but even
though the risk is greater to be hit by lightning... there is risk to all kids.

  


Obviously the President's children are at a much greater risk.

That is no excuse for unequal treatment under the law.

They may be entitled to special protection, but do it in private. Not in a gun free area.

Others in the gun free area have a right to not be put at risk of those weapons.

Personally I think there should be a resource officer in every school. I don't believe they should
be carrying loaded weapons as part of that job. Furthermore, I believe the right to carry concealed
should not be regulated in certain areas, forcing lawful gun owners to not be protected.

The school district in Texas that made it legal to carry concealed in schools has never had a problem.
The students are aware that some teachers may be armed. They have no idea which ones. That serves
as the deterrent. There may actually be no guns at all in the school, but the kids thinking there are
or may be, serve the desired purpose.

I would allow carry concealed in schools by teachers, staff, parents or even the school resource officer.

These people would all be responsible for the use of these weapons as private citizens only.

I would not want the kids seeing themselves as attending school under the jurisdiction of armed
guards. Just publicly announce the gun free zones are rescinded and make no further comments.
Let each student, parent and potential psycho each  draw their own conclusions.

So, for the record, yes a cop in every school. No open carry. No service weapon. Personal carry concealed
weapons only. No more gun free zones.

It's been tried successfully.

Gun free zones have been tried unsuccessfully.

Try using the option that works, instead of the option known to fail repeatedly.

It's called logical conclusions, based on evidence.

Police resource officers shouldn't be put in school as armed bodyguards.(Jailers)

There are many issues where a resource officer could help the kids, being bullied, harassment,
drug gangs/violence, kids having safety concerns for themselves, their friends, or even their families
at home could be  discussed with a resource officer.

Armed guards would be taken as a challenge by the armed students.

Crossfire.

Failure.


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