I don't "HATE" veterans. How many times do I have to clarify it? I PITY veterans that were forced to kill in foreign wars against nations that were not an imminent threat to national security. If America was invaded I would be standing side by side with you box, and I'd even put on the government costume so you knew what side I was fighting on. On the other hand, I wouldn't put on the costume and invade Vietnam, Afghanistan, or Iraq and kill them because my government doesn't agree with their political leaders. You see, I am able to discern between the use of defensive force and offensive force.
You have a problem with my signature graphic Box, why is that because it isn't the Hammer and Sickle you commie, I guess you do hate America you traitor
Commie??? Huh! First you complain because I fought (literally) the commies... then you call me a commie... Make up your mind. Am I killing them, or siding with them... or are you just spouting off because you are so often proven wrong on this board???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I don't "HATE" veterans. How many times do I have to clarify it? I PITY veterans that were forced to kill in foreign wars against nations that were not an imminent threat to national security. If America was invaded I would be standing side by side with you box, and I'd even put on the government costume so you knew what side I was fighting on. On the other hand, I wouldn't put on the costume and invade Vietnam, Afghanistan, or Iraq and kill them because my government doesn't agree with their political leaders. You see, I am able to discern between the use of defensive force and offensive force.
Cicero wants to "clarify" his position... It's pretty clear by his posts... If America were invaded Cissy says he'd be standing "side by side" with Box... Um... No thanks Cic... I'd rather not be fighting a war with someone next to me who feels the way you do about America and it's veterans. I'd prefer an actual "Patriot", to a anti -govt "Parrot". And finally... Cicero, you've mentioned several times about the American Invasion of Vietnam. When I question you about it, you never respond, yet you repeat your comment of an American Military Invasion of Vietnam. I never heard of that invasion, except in your posts. Please send me a link... a map... a reference to The US Invasion, so I could understand your posts.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Henry proven wrong on this board ??? Why because he uses his brain, and dosen't just go with the flow. Why do you attack anyone here who thinks for themselves instead of blindly following ?
Henry supports an armed insurrection against his government... Most Americans call that 'treason'. If the Black Panthers supported an armed insurrection against their government Henry would likely agree that it was an act of treason, but because it's his agenda, and not the Panthers agenda... his view of what constitutes 'treason' is magically transformed.
Article Three of the United States Constitution (Section 3 )
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"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cicero, you've mentioned several times about the American Invasion of Vietnam. When I question you about it, you never respond, yet you repeat your comment of an American Military Invasion of Vietnam. I never heard of that invasion, except in your posts. Please send me a link... a map... a reference to The US Invasion, so I could understand your posts.
The U.S. didn't only invade North Vietnam, but also Cambodia and Laos.
Henry supports an armed insurrection against his government... Most Americans call that 'treason'. If the Black Panthers supported an armed insurrection against their government Henry would likely agree that it was an act of treason, but because it's his agenda, and not the Panthers agenda... his view of what constitutes 'treason' is magically transformed.
Article Three of the United States Constitution (Section 3 )
Gee box, that's how you read Henry's arguments in opposing restrictions on the 2nd Amendment? I won't speak for Henry, but supporting the 2nd Amendment is to defend against a possible tyrannical government, and isn't insurrection at all. Insurrection would be offensive, while the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is defensive. Man box, you really know how to twist things in your warped brain to reach a conclusion that fits your agenda.
Talk about fear mongering. Box is fearful of 'treason' and 'insurrection' because a couple of people want to protect the rights of Americans to keep guns in the unlikely event a tyrannical government decides to oppress the American people.
The U.S. didn't only invade North Vietnam, but also Cambodia and Laos.
Here's a map of the bombing campaigns
Cicero Doubles Down!!! Cissy has one part right... The USA DID invade Cambodia, under Richard Nixon's term expanding the war and setting up the 'killing fields' that happened in that country soon after.
The rest of his post is, as usual, pure BS.
INVASION??? Cic it seems has no idea of what the term "invasion" means. Bombing is not an invasion... I know, I know Cic... you wish that it did, but it doesn't. The USA has invaded many countries... some of them repeatedly... but to my knowledge the USA has never invaded South Vietnam, North Vietnam or Laos.
FACTS, Cicero... Not your OPINION!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Gee box, that's how you read Henry's arguments in opposing restrictions on the 2nd Amendment? I won't speak for Henry, but supporting the 2nd Amendment is to defend against a possible tyrannical government, and isn't insurrection at all. Insurrection would be offensive, while the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is defensive. Man box, you really know how to twist things in your warped brain to reach a conclusion that fits your agenda.
Talk about fear mongering. Box is fearful of 'treason' and 'insurrection' because a couple of people want to protect the rights of Americans to keep guns in the unlikely event a tyrannical government decides to oppress the American people.
I want to protect our 2nd amendment rights, unlike Henry and Cic, I (and the rule of law) don't regard armed insurrection against police officers, US troops or most other authority as protecting the 2nd amendment... Henry and Cic disagree.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
LOL, bombing isn't an invasion...Classic! America was just suppressing an uprising in one of our colonies.
Cicero is wrong... he knows he's wrong... yet he persists... Sure Cic... bombing and invasion are the same thing... really they are. If you say so , your OPINION supersedes FACT!
As I've posted before on this board... when the FACTS don't fit the agenda... JUST MAKE UP NEW FACTS!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Commie??? Huh! First you complain because I fought (literally) the commies... then you call me a commie... Make up your mind. Am I killing them, or siding with them... or are you just spouting off because you are so often proven wrong on this board???
You were fighting commies like Iraq Veterans were fighting AlQaeda
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Cicero is wrong... he knows he's wrong... yet he persists... Sure Cic... bombing and invasion are the same thing... really they are. If you say so , your OPINION supersedes FACT!
As I've posted before on this board... when the FACTS don't fit the agenda... JUST MAKE UP NEW FACTS!
No box, the readers pretty much understand that dropping bombs onto another country is an invasion.
Hey, I get to use a Box-a-Rox argument by posting the official definition. Now maybe bombing North Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia wasn't done as an "enemy", maybe it was a friendly bombing. Hey, what do I know, maybe they invited us to bomb them. LOL
in·va·sion [in-vey-zhuh n] noun 1.an act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, especially by an army.
2.the entrance or advent of anything troublesome or harmful, as disease.
3.entrance as if to take possession or overrun: the annual invasion of the resort by tourists.
You were fighting commies like Iraq Veterans were fighting AlQaeda
North Vietnam WAS a communist country. That isn't my opinion that is FACT. United Vietnam IS a communist country... that isn't my opinion that is FACT.
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Vietnam was partitioned at a 1954 conference that followed the First Indochina War. While the partition was supposed to be temporary, North Vietnam became communist and supported by the Soviet Union while South Vietnam was democratic and supported by France and the United States. Following two decades of war, the two parts of Vietnam were unified and in 1976, Vietnam as a unified country became a communist country.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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