Box Yesterday a NY assemblyman said that there were four semi automatic handguns brougth into sandy hook and used to kill the children and staff and that the 'long" gun was left in the car.
When you listen to the medical examiner he says ALL were killed with the long gun.
If you don't question the discrepencies, well you should.
Cuomo rushes to enact new laws on "assault' rifles as does Obama USING the children that were visiously murdered in Sandy Hook as the reason.
NO ONE is saying this is a conspiracy by the government , BUT there is so much wrong with the info from Sandy Hook its no wonder some do consider it a conspiracy. We are not given the true facts, we are being misled for policitcal agendas.
Just about every Libertarian I have ever met has had a very personal and very visceral problem with authority that pre-dates their adoption of Libertarianism. In fact, it often seems that Libertarianism was constructed to provide an intellectual framework to what is essentially a gut feeling that starts at an early age. Unfortunately, Libertarianism doesn't really make much sense outside of a sophomore poli sci seminar.
But instead of abandoning or correcting their flawed philosophy, Libertarians find scape goats among the authorities because it serves two purposes: 1.) it validates their distrust of the powers that be and 2.) it allows them maintain a philosophy that vindicate the idea that they can pretty much do whatever they want.
It seems to me every Democrat I meet has a personal and visceral problem with individual freedom and critical thinking and unquestioningly give up these personal responsibilities and replace it with a blind obedience to arbitrary government authority. They are quick to reduce any independent questioning of the "official" government story as "conspiracy" or "extremism". Any questioning of the governmental authority is viewed as "unpatriotic" or "anti-government", because through their lifetime of training and indoctrination, they've been conditioned to obey and not challenge those in a position of "authority". They've been conditioned to accept the status quo and not to step outside the lines or they risk being outcast and ridiculed by their sheepish peers.
It sometimes makes me wonder if they ever question the motives of the person or organization behind the information presented. It makes me believe that these statist would walk into a car dealer and speak to the sales person about the quality of their automobiles, and when the sales person tells them that their manufacturer is better in price and quality than the other manufacturers, they nod their head and accept the salesman's information at face value without questioning the personal motive of the sales person just because they are the authority on the subject of cars.
To me, it seems as libertarians are not afraid to question authority, especially the arbitrary government authority viewed as legitimate by many. Libertarians respect the authority of their parents, elders, and even their spiritual leaders, as that is part of the voluntary family and communal order, not the coercive social order as dictated by the central government.
Libertarians may go off and question the official story as presented to them, and their theories may for some seem "conspiratorial". But the fact remains, they ask the questions, they challenge the authority’s official story and they formulate their own thesis.
Obeying authority is the official recognition that some stranger or system is in control of you. It is the act of being submissive. I'm not ashamed to say that I don't voluntarily submit to arbitrary authority, I would be more ashamed to proclaim that I do volulntarily submit. Box has no shame.
Cicero one of the best well said posts I have ever seen on this forum
I don't believe in abortion, so even though it's legal am I anti government, no I believe in the right to life.
I am against the new gun laws because they are unconsitutional.
I question things that don't seem "right" in the media, I research and come to my own opinion, am I a conspiracy theorist, NO, I'm just trying to find the real facts and making up my own mind.
Am I against the overmedicating of children in schools hell yes.
If someone takes the time do research, if someone questions things that are not right and are called right wing nuts, then go ahead. At least we don't blindly follow what is fed to us.
Box Yesterday a NY assemblyman said that there were four semi automatic handguns brougth into sandy hook and used to kill the children and staff and that the 'long" gun was left in the car.
When you listen to the medical examiner he says ALL were killed with the long gun.
If you don't question the discrepencies, well you should.
OK RP, you asked... here is what the Medical Examiner actually said according to Yahoo News.
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NEWTOWN, Conn.--Dr. H. Wayne Carver, the medical examiner investigating Friday's massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, said autopsies completed on 20 children and six adults on Saturday showed they were killed with multiple bullets fired by a rifle at close range.
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The veteran medical examiner told reporters that the victims had all been identified and their bodies released. In what appeared to be an uncomfortable moment for Carver, he said all of the victims he had examined had all been shot by a Bushmaster .223 caliber assault rifle,
SO now that you know the truth RP... Will you join me in denouncing the crazies who are fostering a Conspiracy Theory? The Gun Huggers are trying to muddy the waters with this BS to promote their agenda. Do you also want to join them RP, using the bodies of little children for a political advantage???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box this is right. Always a conspiracy? Are you fools part of the "Truthers" . Where are boomers? Boomers with braains are backing this new law and....we all want medical marijuana.
Gene Rosen lives so close to Sandy Hook elementary school that he heard the bullets on that dreadful day. That day, he found six terrified children and their bus driver sitting at the end of his driveway. He brought them all into his house, giving them snacks and listening to their stories about the shootings at their school. Rosen, a retired psychologist, granted numerous TV interviews describing that day and the six children he sheltered.
Sounds like a good guy huh? (Now for the Gun Hugger "truthers" forcing a conspiracy theory on us!)
The Sandy Hook ‘truthers’ have found this gentle man and are attacking him ruthlessly. They are calling him a liar for the government and, unimaginably, a satanist. One of his attackers even went so far as to accuse him of actually sacrificing one of the children in his basement! He has been receiving hostile emails, some demanding to know how much he is being paid to lie. He has been jeered at in restaurants. Some of the nut-jobs have put up videos “exposing” Rosen’s “lies.” Now, with a ‘news’ anchor and a professor questioning the events of December 14th, the Sandy Hook ‘truther’ movement is gaining momentum, proving that some people are so stupid that they shouldn’t be allowed to leave their rooms.
Right Wing Gun Nuts are feeling the heat as the majority of Americans fight for stronger gun laws... to the point of fabricating lies to further their agenda. There are some on this board who will believe these lies and further the Conspiracy... and continue to use the blood of little children to support their gun agenda.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
For anyone who is actually interested in the TRUTH of the Sandy Hook Shootings... go to this site to view the 15 (so far) hoaxes attributed to the shooting. The HOAX VIDEO that Henry posted at the beginning of this thread is among the bogus videos listed. (of course if you are a libertarian conspiracy nut... anyone who denies the video is just part of the conspiracy)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box please watch this and then tell me why people should not question the inconsitencies
The date the video was published was Published Dec 27, 2012 The opening statement from the announcer you posted says... THERE IS SOME CONFLICTING INFORMATION OUT THERE.... Yup, there always is... and this is some of it. The first reports didn't blame Adam Lanza, but fingered his brother ... is that part of the conspiracy too???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box please watch this and then tell me why people should not question the inconsitencies
From CNN... The same network you posted:
(CNN) -- Adam Lanza brought three weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary school on December 14 and left a fourth in his car, police said. Those weapons were a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm. In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
the video I posted was from NBC news and yes I agree there is conflicting information
YUP My mistake.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
4 handguns to 2 handguns to 2 handguns 1 rifle to 3 handguns 1 rifle 1 shotgun to wait what is the new story? I bet if you asked 3 people what was used you would get 3 different answers
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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