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CICERO
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Cic... you consistently get it WRONG when you speak for me, and this is no exception.  
Police in the USA are under a lot of stress.  The job itself is stressful and the attitudes of some Americans
just adds to the stress.
Imagine putting your life on the line, then after almost being killed in the line of duty... some clown
calls you a fascist, a storm trooper, a hit man in a government costume.  

Suicide is a serious problem in all walks of life... and cops are no exception.
Here is some data on the subject by jobs:


I'm not speaking for you.  People can read your posts.  You went on and on about how people that don't support gun control don't care about suicide victims.  I can go back and quote you, but I won't bother because those following along are aware of it.  

And of course I am not surprised you elevated cops to a lofty deity that has a higher level of emotional stress than the lowly serf.  

Hey, box, go rent an apartment in the housing projects of Chicago and tell me if that's stress free living.  Those people aren't getting killed in the line of duty, they are being killed trying to raise their family.  And now little tyrants like you want to disarm them and prevent them from protecting their families from violent crimes.  

There were 500 homicides in Chicago in 2012.  Please somebody find me that statistics of how many Chicago police died in the line of duty protecting the public from these homicide. I googled it and so far I haven't found a one.  I will keep looking.


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I found one.  In 2011, one officer in chicago died by gunfire in the line of duty.  

http://www.odmp.org/officer/21069-police-officer-clifton-p-lewis


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No, that's your own fear.  


I have lots of sources "attributing" those words to Freud, but none actually showing it as fact... and
many saying it was not Freud's words but an interpretation of his words.
See below:

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A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.
This is not a statement that appears in any translation of any of Freud's works. It is a paraphrase of a
statement from the essay "Guns, Murders, and the Constitution" (February 1990) by Don B. Kates, Jr.
where Kates summarizes his views of passages in Dreams in Folklore (1958) by Freud and David E.
Oppenheim, while disputing statements by Emmanuel Tanay in "Neurotic Attachment to Guns" in a
1976 edition of The Fifty Minute Hour: A Collection of True Psychoanalytic Tales (1955) by Robert
Mitchell Lindner:


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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the only weapons he was referring to were dildos and nipple clamps....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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There were 500 homicides in Chicago in 2012.  Please somebody find me that statistics of how many Chicago police died in the line of duty protecting the public from these homicide. I googled it and so far I haven't found a one.  I will keep looking.


Here is a list of 21 Chicago cops killed in the line of duty since 2000.

Strange... you don't seem to have a problem honoring an Al Qaeda terrorist who would be overjoyed with the
deaths of these cops... and you seem to revel in the police misfortune.  
Pro Terrorist... Anti American.   :-/

http://www.cpdmemorial.org/fallen-heroes/


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Here is a list of 21 Chicago cops killed in the line of duty since 2000.

Strange... you don't seem to have a problem honoring an Al Qaeda terrorist who would be overjoyed with the
deaths of these cops... and you seem to revel in the police misfortune.  
Pro Terrorist... Anti American.   :-/

http://www.cpdmemorial.org/fallen-heroes/


a human is a human is a human is a human.....

penalty is penalty.....

I'm sure you feel that the governments with big red buttons on nuclear weapons is OK because they are 'leaders' with
sense....compared to the rest of the population.....they are also the 1%ers who tell you your worth/your access/your
food supply/your credit rating etc etc......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Here is a list of 21 Chicago cops killed in the line of duty since 2000./

http://www.cpdmemorial.org/fallen-heroes/


Here is the description of the cop that was killed in 2012.
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Thomas J. Boyle, Jr. was killed June 19, 2012 during an attack by insurgents at his compound near Kandahar, Afghanistan.  The insurgents gained access to the compound and during the battle, 26 people were killed or wounded.Tom was a decorated Vietnam Veteran and worked for the Chicago Police Department for 30


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Strange... you don't seem to have a problem honoring an Al Qaeda terrorist who would be overjoyed with the
deaths of these cops... and you seem to revel in the police misfortune.  
Pro Terrorist... Anti American.   :-/


Are the delusion back box?  I can't recall "honoring" Al Qaeda "terrorist.  

Do you confuse my support of due process for ALL Americans as honoring Al Qaeda?


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  And now little tyrants like you want to disarm them and prevent them from protecting their families
from violent crimes.  


As I've stated many times, I support the 2nd amendment... and I support good gun laws...
yet you  post that I want to "disarm them and prevent them from protecting their families from
violent crimes."

I think that most Americans want to limit the type of certain weapons... flame thrower, or hand
grenades, for example.  
You post that I want to "DISARM THEM"?  Why do you say that. I'm not FOR "disarming"... I am
FOR mandatory training to own a firearm, FOR laws that require guns to be kept in a secure place
or with a secure trigger lock, etc.  
Please explain your DISARM statement.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Here is the description of the cop that was killed in 2012.


Was he killed in the line of duty as I posted?
Did he NOT fit your agenda???
What about the other 20 cops killed in 'the line of duty'?  
Is it that difficult for you to find some good event associated with the police???


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Please explain your DISARM statement.

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Hopefully, with the deaths of all those 6 and 7 year olds, the assualt weapons ban will pass this year.



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An assault weapon ban... banning the sale and manufacture of assualt weapons.  Yes.  Ad that to the list
of flame throwers, hand grenades... that doesn't "DISARM" the American Public.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Was he killed in the line of duty as I posted?
Did he NOT fit your agenda???
What about the other 20 cops killed in 'the line of duty'?  


No it didn't fit your agenda.  

Well, it looks at a little over one cop killed per year.  And I didn't look at all the causes of death, but I'll concede because of time constraints that it was 20. I can find other occupations in the City of Chicago that have a much higher death rate(taxi driver).  Yet no website memorializing and honoring the death of the taxi driver, because the lowly taxi driver is not an honorable job like a government agent.

With 500 homicides in ONE YEAR, I would think the police would be diving in front of bullets protecting the residents of Chicago that have been disarmed with one of the nations strictest weapons ban.  Instead the residents are made into victims for violent criminals to shoot and rob them like fish in a barrel.


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An assault weapon ban... banning the sale and manufacture of assualt weapons.  Yes.  Ad that to the list
of flame throwers, hand grenades... that doesn't "DISARM" the American Public.


Why does SWAT and other Government Agencies need "assault weapons"?  What do they fear?  And if they do fear a threat, shouldn't the public be equipped with the same weapons the Government Agents have to protect themselves?


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Why does SWAT and other Government Agencies need "assault weapons"?  What do they fear?  And if they do fear a threat, shouldn't the public be equipped with the same weapons the Government Agents have to protect themselves?


When the police drive through The Hill, they stop at red lights then drive through them routinely.

They recognize that it isn't safe for them to sit there waiting to be shot.

Private citizens can't get away with the same actions.

If Schenectady is unsafe for the cops, any law abiding citizen should be allowed to carry for personal protection.

I know people who have applied for carry concealed permits for personal protection, only for them to be rejected
and made to wait a year to apply again as a hunting and target shooting carry concealed weapon.

They openly admit that they currently don't issue pistol licenses for personal protection. Except for special persons.

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