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NY State does not allow the sale of the weapon in the picture, except to cops. They need it in case your music is too loud and you resist. |
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Adam Lanza and his mom were law abiding legal registered gun owners.
And of course no one could ever steal an automatic weapon from a cop.
Banning guns would leave the country unarmed, except for the criminals.
Let's not forget the cause of gun violence in the US.
It was the life in prison rule for drug sales laws that meant a gun was needed to save your life from being taken for being an unlicensed drug dealer.
The drug war escalation caused the great increase in gun crimes.
It also created the massive increase in black market guns.
It amazes me that idiots cause problems and want to pass laws to cause more problems to cover up the death market they they themselves created.
If you want a civilized society, the government needs to first learn to operate civilly themselves.
Half the right wingers in the country have guns because they fear government guns someday coming for them.
All the serious drug dealers have guns because failure to have and use them will result in life in prison.
US government guns and the fact that they are used every day to kill people here in the US and around the world is the reason the other 6.8 billion people live in fear and want to prepare for when the US government comes for them.
Civility can't be mandated by murderous thugs who execute people before trial.
Obama has killed more innocent people than every school shooting ever committed.
Ban his damm guns, drones, nukes, bombers etc.
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December 17, 2012, 11:32pm |
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Selling weapons to Mexican drug lords with the fast and furious program was a bigger atrocity than a single unbalanced individual that went nuts.
How many hundreds of Mexicans are now dead as a result?
Obama went to speak to the families, proclaiming we need to do something, while surrounded by automatic weapon toting spooks. |
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On April 28, 1996, a gunman opened fire on tourists in a seaside resort in Port Arthur, Tasmania. By the time he was finished, he had killed 35 people and wounded 23 more. It was the worst mass murder in Australia’s history.
Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well. There have been no mass shootings since.
the just haven't come across another person like that yet.....THEY WILL....history ALWAYS repeats....why? because humans haven't changed....the only thing that has changed is our environment....back in the day, those 'crazy folks' would have stayed on the farm having very little stimulation..... |
| ...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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The Aussies took reasonable action to prevent another disaster. The USA morns the 20 babies murdered and does nothing.
is that reasonable thinking or is it sesame street? |
| ...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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Libertarian4life |
December 18, 2012, 10:10am |
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The Aussies took reasonable action to prevent another disaster. The USA morns the 20 babies murdered and does nothing.
Australia doesn't have armed drug gangs battling with police in every city. All US school shootings have occurred where guns are forbidden by law. Criminals call these places targets. You can't massively escalate a drug war, force people to live in the war zone and expect the law abiding citizens to just surrender their rights to protect themselves.. |
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December 18, 2012, 10:13am |
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In 1994 the US passed the assault weapons ban.
In 1995 Tim McVeigh blew them up with diesel fuel and fertilizer. |
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Australia doesn't have armed drug gangs battling with police in every city.
All US school shootings have occurred where guns are forbidden by law.
Criminals call these places targets.
You can't massively escalate a drug war, force people to live in the war zone and expect the law abiding citizens to just surrender their rights to protect themselves..
The Aussies had an effective gun law program plus a gun buy back to get guns off the streets. It worked for them. Had the laws been different, the CT shootings may have never have happened. Make every gun owner responsible for his guns. Require that they be locked in a safe not just shoved in a drawer or closet. If the shooters mom didn't leave her guns where they were accessible, the shooting might not have ever happened. Something as simple as a trigger lock, and a gun safe, could have prevented those deaths. |
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December 18, 2012, 10:19am |
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In 1994 the US passed the assault weapons ban.
In 1995 Tim McVeigh blew them up with diesel fuel and fertilizer.
So there is no cure? NONE??? McVeigh was part of the Right Wing Militia Crazies who promote violence... just as the Black Panthers did on the Left. Surveillance and infiltration of KNOWN Violent Groups is as much a function of law enforcement as surveillance and infiltration of organized crime groups. |
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December 18, 2012, 10:37am |
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The Aussies had an effective gun law program plus a gun buy back to get guns off the streets. It worked for them.
This is not Australia!
They don't have a drug war society with hundreds of gang related gun murders every day.There will always be irresponsible people who will leave their registered, loaded, and fully legal guns laying around for their idiot son to use to shoot them in the head while they are in bed, and may even go down to the school and continue the rampage. When cops kids die from guns I don't hear you screaming to take away police guns. You are totally blinded and prejudiced in favor of your Government owners and ready to turn in everyone else to them for termination. You are not a man. You are a dependent. You totally denounce any freedom loving person's rights to exist without government approval and authorization. You are a true communist. You support your government killing people that have a right to exist, unless charged and convicted using due process. That's the Adam Lanza method. If he was told by Obama to kill those kids you would have no problem with it. |
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The MSM will never let a good crisis go to waste.
the blood sucking, exploiting/politicising a tragedy, LAME STREAM MEDIA has reached a new low!! like i said.....we haven't watched or read ONE thing by the LAME STREAM MEDIA about this tragedy since it happened last friday. EVERYONE SHOULD BE APPAULLED!!!! |
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December 18, 2012, 11:14am |
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This is not Australia! They don't have a drug war society with hundreds of gang related gun murders every day. There will always be irresponsible people who will leave their registered, loaded, and fully legal guns laying around for their idiot son to use to shoot them in the head while they are in bed, and may even go down to the school and continue the rampage. When cops kids die from guns I don't hear you screaming to take away police guns. You are totally blinded and prejudiced in favor of your Government owners and ready to turn in everyone else to them for termination. You are not a man. You are a dependent. You totally denounce any freedom loving person's rights to exist without government approval and authorization. You are a true communist. You support your government killing people that have a right to exist, unless charged and convicted using due process. That's the Adam Lanza method. If he was told by Obama to kill those kids you would have no problem with it.
L4Life just shifted into warp speed on the way to a nervous breakdown. The more he types, the less sense he makes. Really L4Life... take a breath and read what you are posting. It makes little sense. |
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December 18, 2012, 11:23am |
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So there is no cure? NONE??? McVeigh was part of the Right Wing Militia Crazies who promote violence... just as the Black Panthers did on the Left. Surveillance and infiltration of KNOWN Violent Groups is as much a function of law enforcement as surveillance and infiltration of organized crime groups.
McVeigh stated at his sentencing that he learned it from the actions of the government killing the innocent. Again, learned behavior. It can only be changed by changing the actions of those they are learning from. Change the US government actions to actions of a civilized nation and the Lanzas and Mcveighs will stop being created. |
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"Quoted from Libertarian4life This is not Australia! They don't have a drug war society with hundreds of gang related gun murders every day. There will always be irresponsible people who will leave their registered, loaded, and fully legal guns laying around for their idiot son to use to shoot them in the head while they are in bed, and may even go down to the school and continue the rampage. When cops kids die from guns I don't hear you screaming to take away police guns. You are totally blinded and prejudiced in favor of your Government owners and ready to turn in everyone else to them for termination. You are not a man. You are a dependent. You totally denounce any freedom loving person's rights to exist without government approval and authorization. You are a true communist. You support your government killing people that have a right to exist, unless charged and convicted using due process. That's the Adam Lanza method. If he was told by Obama to kill those kids you would have no problem with it."
L4Life just shifted into warp speed on the way to a nervous breakdown. The more he types, the less sense he makes. Really L4Life... take a breath and read what you are posting. It makes little sense.
Refusal to explain your twisted belief in good murder versus bad murder is admitting you have lost the argument. Please continue to surrender. It's what you are good at. |
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McVeigh stated at his sentencing that he learned it from the actions of the government killing the innocent. Again, learned behavior. It can only be changed by changing the actions of those they are learning from. Change the US government actions to actions of a civilized nation and the Lanzas and Mcveighs will stop being created.
McVeigh learned from his government??? But not from his God? He was a Christian yet he opted to follow the example of his govt instead of the teachings of his Lord... why is that. Political agenda? It fit his need to justify his actions? Who knows? I could shoot the mailman today and blame it on Obama's drone war. Would that fit YOUR AGENDA! (My actions are not MY FAULT, It's the Obama Drone War who is to blame) |
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