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Box A Rox
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Straight from the Armed Citizen Blog of the NRA.  
Did he shoot the criminal with an assualt weapon??? NOPE!
So the point is??????


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from Box A Rox
Straight from the Armed Citizen Blog of the NRA.  
Did he shoot the criminal with an assualt weapon??? NOPE!
So the point is??????


Suppose you are at home and an armed gang with guns enters and has you hostage.

You going to go up against 5 to one odds with a pistol?

Say there's a power failure nationwide that last for weeks. After two weeks when the food and medicines run
out, armed gangs will be making their rounds taking anything that the unarmed people have.

Go ahead, call 911 and kiss your a** goodbye.

No one is saying they need to carry an ar-15, but it might be a useful tool someday.

A suitcase nuke, a terrorist attack, many reasons to have a well armed population with assault rifles.

Switzerland's freedom depends on it. Their military is not the first line of defense, the people are.

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Quoted from Box A Rox
Straight from the Armed Citizen Blog of the NRA.  
Did he shoot the criminal with an assualt weapon??? NOPE!
So the point is??????


If someone cuts your power and is coming in, you definitely should have a semi-automatic rifle.

Plus a shotgun, a couple pistols, handcuffs, zip ties and a safe room surely wouldn't hurt.

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Here's Why Someone Would Need To Own An 'Assault' Rifle


Posted 12/28/2012 06:57 PM ET

Guns: The left keeps asking why anyone needs an "assault" rifle. Here's one reason — in 2010, a Texas teen used a rifle similar to the one used in Newtown to defend his younger sister and himself from home invaders.

The left quite often exposes its raging elitism through its odious habit of asking why anyone would need the things that it doesn't like, from guns to big homes to monster trucks.

The implication is that if the elitists don't want whatever it is, then no one should be allowed to have it — except, of course, it's fine for the elitists themselves to live in energy-sucking mansions, hire armed bodyguards and drive around in gas-guzzling limousines and SUVs.

When the left asks these questions it also reveals its blinding ignorance. Is there a single Democrat, dense celebrity or condescending journalist who is aware that "assault" rifles don't just define their owners as red necks but also serve as practical protection?

Actually the total amount of what they don't know about firearms and crime is enough to crush them.

Consider that, according to FBI data, in 2007, there were 453 homicides by rifle in the U.S. Yes, that's too many. But compare that number to a few other methods of homicide employed that year.

In 2007, there were 1,817 homicides committed with "knives or cutting instruments"; "blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.)" killed 674; while "personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.)" were the choices in 869 homicides.

The number of rifle homicides has fallen steadily since then to 323 last year, as have the other three weapon classes, though each still remains a more common choice than the rifle.

In fact, when added together, knives, blunt instruments and the human body were responsible for more than nine times as many homicides as rifles in 2011.

Yet no one is asking why anyone would want to own a set of steak knives, place a heavy candelabra on their mantle or have a hammer in their garage.

The weapon used effectively as protection by the Texas teen was neither a club nor a fist but reportedly an AR-15, a rifle on which the .223-caliber Bushmaster used in the tragic Sandy Hook shootings was modeled.

Though tagged "assault" weapons, both are merely semi-automatics, just as are many hunting rifles, and all but a handful are used legally and peacefully.

But elitists on the left don't hunt — they let someone else do their killing — so how could they know?

None of this is intended to minimize the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary or any other mass shooting.

It's simply an attempt to point out that a screaming obsession over one particular weapon used less frequently to kill than knives is driven by ignorance, arrogance and a nonexistent sense of proportion.

Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-.....es.htm#ixzz2HGE1atWM

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Great Pic...
~ Only one of the items pictured above was specifically designed to kill a large number of people in a
short period of time.




Do you actually believe that because you don't like something that is Constitutionally allowed, that you
would support taking them away from law abiding citizens?

I have no problem with thoroughly checking a person out before handing him an assault rifle.

I have a problem with people disallowing assault rifles because they're scared.

I don't own an assault rifle and likely will never own one, because I'm too cheap and too old.

I would never want to deny the right to own such a weapon to those who are responsible law abiding adults.

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Worst rampage killers on record 1863 - 2012

Total killed 479

Total injured 903

90% were killed or injured with a firearm.


Hennard, George Pierre, 35     1991     Killeen, TX     - killed -      23     - injured -      22
Huberty, James Oliver, 41     1984     San Diego, CA     - killed -      21     - injured -      19
Wong, Jiverly Antares, 41     2009     Binghamton, NY     - killed -      13     - injured -      4
Unruh, Howard Barton, 28     1949     Camden, NJ     - killed -      13     - injured -      3
Holmes, James Eagan (charged), 24     2012     Aurora, CO     - killed -      12     - injured -      58
Starkweather, Charles Raymond, 19 and Fugate, Caril Ann, 14     1958     Lincoln & Bennet, NE     - killed -      10     - injured -      0
Twigg, Gilbert, 30     1903     Winfield, KS     - killed -      9     - injured -      25
Bertucci, Clarence V., 23^     1945     Salina, UT     - killed -      9     - injured -      19
Silka, Michael Alan, 25     1984     Fairbanks & Manley Hot Springs, AK     - killed -      9     - injured -      1
Sheley, Nicholas Troy, 28     2008     Sterling, Rock Falls & Galesburg, IL     - killed -      8     - injured -      0
Ferri, Gian Luigi, 55     1993     San Francisco, CA     - killed -      8     - injured -      6
Hawkins, Robert A., 19     2007     Omaha, NE     - killed -      8     - injured -      4
Brown, Carl Robert, 51     1982     Miami, FL     - killed -      8     - injured -      3
Stewart, Robert Kenneth Wayne, 45     2009     Carthage, NC     - killed -      8     - injured -      2
Dekraai, Scott Evans, 41     2011     Seal Beach, CA     - killed -      8     - injured -      1
Unknown     1982     Craig, AK     - killed -      8     - injured -      0
Carlton, Julian, 30     1914     Spring Green, WI     - killed -      7     - injured -      1
Phillips, Monroe, 58     1915     Brunswick, GA     - killed -      7     - injured -      32
Charles, Robert, 35     1900     New Orleans, LA     - killed -      7     - injured -      20
Ashbrook, Larry Gene, 47     1999     Fort Worth, TX     - killed -      7     - injured -      7
Ratzmann, Terry Michael, 44     2005     Brookfield, WI     - killed -      7     - injured -      4
Collins, Melvin, 38     1948     Chester, PA     - killed -      7     - injured -      3
Collins, Darnell, 33     1995     New Jersey and NYC     - killed -      7     - injured -      3
Reynolds, William, 35     1902     Tuscumbia, AL     - killed -      7     - injured -      2
Pearson, Eric Emanuel, 56     1968     Ironwood, MI     - killed -      7     - injured -      2
Everette, Eugene, 32°     1970     New York City, NY     - killed -      7     - injured -      15
Smith, Roland J., 51     1995     New York City, NY     - killed -      7     - injured -      4
Akers, Arthur°     1916     Stuttgart, AR     - killed -      7     - injured -      2
Gung Ung Chang     1898     Melrose, CA     - killed -      7     - injured -      2
Marcelino, Julian, 30     1932     Seattle, WA     - killed -      6     - injured -      13
Unknown     1911     Colorado Springs, CO     - killed -      6     - injured -      0
Ferguson, Colin, 35     1993     Garden City, NY     - killed -      6     - injured -      19
Loughner, Jared Lee, 22     2011     Tucson, AZ     - killed -      6     - injured -      13
Cruse, William Bryan, 59     1987     Palm Bay, FL     - killed -      6     - injured -      10
Bonner, William Ray, 25     1973     Los Angeles, CA     - killed -      6     - injured -      8
Indian Gully°     1910     Willow Patch, NV     - killed -      6     - injured -      7
Young, Harry Lyman, 27 and Young, Jennings M., 35     1932     Brookline, MO     - killed -      6     - injured -      3
Hastings, Louis D., 39     1983     McCarthy, AK     - killed -      6     - injured -      2
Vang, Chai Soua, 36     2004     Birchwood, WI     - killed -      6     - injured -      2
Huff, Kyle Aaron, 28     2006     Seattle, WA     - killed -      6     - injured -      2
Belachheb, Abdelkrim, 39     1984     Dallas, TX     - killed -      6     - injured -      1
Peterson, Tyler James, 20^     2007     Crandon, WI     - killed -      6     - injured -      1
Thornton, Charles Lee, 52     2008     Kirkwood, MO     - killed -      6     - injured -      1
Goins, John M., 49°     1926     Stockton & Galt, CA     - killed -      6     - injured -      0
Henry, DeWitt Charles, 26     1977     Klamath Falls, OR     - killed -      6     - injured -      0
Benoist, Emile Pierre, 20     1977     Hackettstown, NJ     - killed -      6     - injured -      0
Moreno, Eliseo Hernandez, 24°     1983     College Station & Hempstead, TX     - killed -      6     - injured -      0
Stewart, Howard Franklin, 37°     1987     Lebanon, MO and Corsicana, TX     - killed -      6     - injured -      0
Cooper, Simon     1897     Magnolia & Lynchburg, SC     - killed -      6     - injured -      5
Zamora, Isaac Lee, 28     2008     Alger, WA     - killed -      6     - injured -      4
Drake, Lynwood Crumpler, 43     1992     Morro Bay, Paso Robles & San Miguel, CA     - killed -      6     - injured -      2
Harris, Will     1906     Asheville, NC     - killed -      5     - injured -      12
King, Alvin Lee, 45     1980     Daingerfield, TX     - killed -      5     - injured -      10
Klink, Herman, 40     1933     Cleveland, OH     - killed -      5     - injured -      
Mellberg, Dean Allen, 20     1994     Fairchild Air Force Base, WA     - killed -      4     - injured -      23
Moore, Lawrence W., 25     1981     Salem, OR     - killed -      4     - injured -      19
Pullen, Joe     1923     Drew, MS     - killed -      4     - injured -      8
McLeod, Harvey Glenn, 22     1972     Raleigh, NC     - killed -      4     - injured -      7
French, Kenneth Junior, 22     1993     Fayetteville, NC     - killed -      4     - injured -      7
Sencion, Eduardo, 32     2011     Carson City, NV     - killed -      4     - injured -      7
Decker, Newt, 35     1908     Okmulgee, OK     - killed -      4     - injured -      9
Lambright, Donald Martin, 30     1969     Harrisburg, PA     - killed -      3     - injured -      17
Pearson, Moses, 31     1976     Jacksonville, FL     - killed -      3     - injured -      14
Clark, Michael Andrew, 16     1965     Santa Maria, CA     - killed -      3     - injured -      10
Mozingo, Douglas Arthur, 29     1982     Sacramento, CA     - killed -      3     - injured -      9
Sodini, George A., 48     2009     Bridgeville, PA     - killed -      3     - injured -      9
Aranda, Bennie Bonifacio, 26     1937     Oakland, CA     - killed -      3     - injured -      9
Sears, Charles, 32     1981     New York City, NY     - killed -      2     - injured -      13
Attebury, Ira, 64     1979     San Antonio, TX     - killed -      2     - injured -      47
Casteel, Luther V., 42     2001     Elgin, IL     - killed -      2     - injured -      16
Cho Mun Chu, 45°     1988     New York City, NY     - killed -      2     - injured -      14
Pruyn, Kenyon William, 32     1976     Mechanicville, NY     - killed -      2     - injured -      
Popadich, Ronald J., 39     2002     Garfield, NJ and New York City, NY     - killed -      2     - injured -      24
Smith, Russell Lee, 28     1975     Dayton, OH     - killed -      2     - injured -      11
Agas, Venerando, 52°     1995     New York City, NY     - killed -      1     - injured -      18
Koullapis, Louis, 70     1965     Gardena, CA     - killed -      1     - injured -      26
Cribbs, Ulysses L., 32     1977     Omaha, NE     - killed -      1     - injured -      25
Thrower, Dennie, 34     1936     Windsor, NC     - killed -      1     - injured -      16
Harrington, Robert Leonard, 35     1982     Detroit, MI     - killed -      1     - injured -      38
Pinkston, Charles     1927     Birmingham, AL     - killed -      1     - injured -      14
Brady, John, 22     1906     St. Louis, MO     - killed -      0     - injured -      18
Wade, William S.     1909     Monroe, LA     - killed -      0     - injured -      29
Cooksey, Wesley, 39     1927     Evansville, IN     - killed -      0     - injured -      15
Reeb, Henry H., 36     1940     Burlington, IA     - killed -      0     - injured -      
Unknown     2009     San Francisco, CA     - killed -      0     - injured -      12
Wilkins, Nathan Van, 44     2012     Tuscaloosa, AL     - killed -      0     - injured -      
Cornell, ---     1863     Austin, NV     - killed -      0     - injured -      20
Jones, Walter, 20 and Jones, William, 18     1913     Harriston, MS     - killed -      0     - injured -      20
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Serial killers

Full list totals around 700


Gary Ridgway     1982 to 2000      - Killed -      71      - injured -      71–90+
Ted Bundy     1974 to 1978      - Killed -      35      - injured -      36+
John Wayne Gacy     1972 to 1978      - Killed -      33      - injured -      34+
Dean Corll     1969-72      - Killed -      27      - injured -      28+
Juan Vallejo Corona     1971      - Killed -      25      - injured -      25+
Ronald Dominique     1997 to 2006      - Killed -      23      - injured -      23+
Earle Nelson     1926 to 1927      - Killed -      22      - injured -      25
William Bonin     1979 to 1980      - Killed -      21      - injured -      36+
Patrick Kearney     1965 to 1977      - Killed -      21      - injured -      28
Paul John Knowles     1974      - Killed -      18      - injured -      35
Joel Rifkin     1989 to 1993      - Killed -      17      - injured -      17
Jeffrey Dahmer     1978 to 1991      - Killed -      17      - injured -      17
Randy Steven Kraft     1969 to 1983      - Killed -      16      - injured -      65–100
Robert Lee Yates     1975 to 1998      - Killed -      16      - injured -      16
Charles Ray Hatcher     1969 to 1982      - Killed -      16      - injured -      
Robert Hansen     1980 to 1983      - Killed -      15      - injured -      21
Angel Maturino Resendiz     1986 to 1999      - Killed -      15      - injured -      18
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Medical professional killers

Donald Harvey      1970 to 1987      Killed - 37 Injured - 57–87      Self-professed Angel of Death. Worked as an orderly in Cincinnati-area hospitals and preyed on his patients. Claims to have killed 87 patients starting at age 18. Serving 28 life sentences in Ohio

Charles Cullen 1988 to 2003 Killed - 29 Injured - 35–40+      Nurse in New Jersey and Pennsylvania who murdered at least 29 patients. Cullen has admitted to more murders, which authorities believe are likely, but the murders cannot be verified

Orville Lynn Majors 1993 to 1995      Killed - 6      Injured - 130      LPN in Vermillion County Ind., Preyed on elderly patients—thought to have killed many of them with injections of potassium chloride. Serving 360 years in Indiana.

5 others totaling 24 killed.

96 total

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The point of all the data is that semi=automatic rifles is a distant 3rd.
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The entire country has become a nation of chicken littles screaming that the sky is falling.

A guy tries to light his shoe on fire, so now matches and lighters are banned, shoes must be surrendered
and searched separate from you. The rest of the world doesn't make travelers take off their damn shoes.

2 ounces or less of any liquid?

Everything in ziplock baggies?

None of this panic mode behavior will prevent an attack if someone is determined.

Banning semi-automatic rifles won't stop homicidal maniacs from killing dozens or even hundreds of people.

The entire country needs to chill the f**k out.

Jesus, panic much?

What a bunch of hysterical girls this country has become.

If someone wants to kill, no law can stop them.

Crazy can't be regulated.


Please pay attention to the following sentence:

Every death, injury, illness, insult or accident can't be cured
with anther stupid law that will only apply to the law abiding
citizens.

Criminals and crazies could give a crap about laws.


Stop being hysterical jackasses!
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Quoted from Box A Rox
Straight from the Armed Citizen Blog of the NRA.  
Did he shoot the criminal with an assualt weapon??? NOPE!
So the point is??????



This topic is about the NRA but now that I post something from the NRA it is not worthy enough for you? I posted those just because more need to see the stories many don't hear about from the media. Since those didn't have a "assault weapon" used here is a video of one that was used to save lives.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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The media only covers the bad things that happen with guns, never the stories where a gun saves lives and they are very selective on who they report on as well. Remember the days when media told the truth nomatter who was guilty of a crime.
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All of our male relatives, that have since passed on, were wwII vets.
We all remember the army stories they told us. We remember their words of wisdom they acquired.

First....DON'T BUY ANYTHING NOT MADE IN THIS COUNTRY.
Second.....THE DAY THEY START TO TAKE AWAY/REGULATE YOUR GUNS is the day your FREE country is done!
Third.......Believe nothing of what you read/hear and only half of what you see.

...............just a few words of their 'personal life lesson' wisdoms.............


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Suppose you are at home and an armed gang with guns enters and has you hostage.

You going to go up against 5 to one odds with a pistol?

Say there's a power failure nationwide that last for weeks. After two weeks when the food and medicines run
out, armed gangs will be making their rounds taking anything that the unarmed people have.

Go ahead, call 911 and kiss your a** goodbye.

No one is saying they need to carry an ar-15, but it might be a useful tool someday.

A suitcase nuke, a terrorist attack, many reasons to have a well armed population with assault rifles.

Switzerland's freedom depends on it. Their military is not the first line of defense, the people are.



"No one is saying they need to carry an ar-15"
Good.  We don't.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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"No one is saying they need to carry an ar-15"
Good.  We don't.


By "we" who are you speaking for, hopefully just yourself



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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