Support for stricter gun laws dropping, like I said in the other thread you can find a poll to fit any agenda
CBS Poll As of May 1st...
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The survey, which polled 965 adults nationwide between April 24-28, indicates that 59 percent of Americans are dissatisfied with the results of the Senate gun votes: 19 percent said they were angry about the votes, and 40 percent said they were disappointed by the results.
Only nine percent of voters described themselves as "enthusiastic" about how the gun law votes turned out, and 27 percent expressed satisfaction with the results.
Eighty-eight percent of voters say they support background checks for all gun buyers, according to the CBS News/New York Times poll, and that support cuts across political parties; Republicans (86 percent), Democrats (95 percent) and independents (83 percent) all favor that policy.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Eighty-eight percent of voters say they support background checks for all gun buyers, according to the CBS News/New York Times poll, and that support cuts across political parties; Republicans (86 percent), Democrats (95 percent) and independents (83 percent) all favor that policy.
Good thing Chicago hasn't previously allowed handguns and has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country.
Chicago gun laws even bar city museums from displaying unloaded guns
Chicago erupts in weekend gun violence: 7 dead, 41 injured
By Cheryl K. Chumley
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The Washington Times
Monday, June 17, 2013
Chicago saw its bloodiest weekend this year as gun violence throughout the city left seven dead and 41 injured, including boys younger than 19.
One victim was 16-year-old Kevin Rivera, who was shot to death, as he walked near his home, by a bicycle-riding gunman, United Press International reported.
Another was a 15-year-old who was shot and killed by police during a drug-related emergency call in the South Side’s Englewood neighborhood, the Chicago Tribune reported. Police responded to a drug call about 10:30 p.m. on Sunday, saw three suspects running, and launched a foot chase. The suspect turned and pointed what appeared to be a gun at the officer during the course of the chase, the Tribune said. The officer in turn fired his weapon.
The boy was taken to a nearby hospital, but was pronounced dead an hour later, the Tribune said.
Police say this was the worst weekend for gun violence since the beginning of the year, and residents say they are unnerved. NBC put the statistics at seven dead and 41 wounded, up from earlier estimates by different media of six dead and 36 wounded.
“I had a family from my parish tell me recently that their 10-year-old son didn’t want to come back to Chicago from vacation because of the violence,” said the Rev. Machel Pfleger of St. Sabina Catholic Church, in the UPI report.
Chicago's gun registry on the ropes State concealed carry legislation would invalidate maligned database June 09, 2013|By John Byrne, Chicago Tribune reporter
New gun owner Ray Diaz shows his Illinois Firearm Owners ID, Chicago Firearm Permit and Chicago Firearm Registration Thursday December 9, 2010. (E. Jason Wambsgans )
Chicago's 3-year-old gun registry could go away as part of the concealed carry law state lawmakers recently passed, but few are publicly mourning the loss of a database once heralded as a key part of the city's gun control laws.
The registry, put in place by then-Mayor Richard Daley after the U.S. Supreme Court tossed out Chicago's 1982 handgun ban, required people who wanted guns in Chicago to buy city permits and register the weapons with police.
Gun rights advocates derided the registry and Chicago's municipal permit process as ineffective in curbing gun crime and an unfair burden for law-abiding gun owners.
The numbers indicate the registry wasn't effective. There are now about 8,650 Chicago firearms permit holders who have registered around 22,000 firearms, according to Mayor Rahm Emanuel's office. That's compared with the roughly 150,000 Chicago households the University of Chicago Crime Lab estimates currently have guns.
The idea was that the list would be available to police officers and firefighters so they would know if they were responding to a call for help at a home where there were firearms, Daley said at the time.
But the registry was troubled from its inception, with aldermen noting on the day they voted for it that criminals who would be a threat to emergency workers were unlikely to submit an application to police ahead of time saying they had a gun.
And four months after the city created the registry, the database still wasn't available to the Police and Fire departments. Daley said that failure was "annoying" and that "they should have it by now."
Now the gun registry is on the verge of going away. During negotiations in Springfield to set up rules to allow people to carry concealed weapons, gun rights advocates won a concession to scrap the Chicago registry. The bill is now awaiting action by Gov. Pat Quinn, who could veto it, sign it or write changes into the legislation.
Richard Pearson, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association, singled out the elimination of the Chicago registry and permit process as one of the big improvements for gun owners in the state under the bill. "That goes bye-bye, and it's a good thing because that was a terrible law," Pearson said. "It didn't serve any purpose except to harass law-abiding gun owners in Chicago."
In a city where Emanuel has pressed for tougher gun control as street violence continues, the municipal registry's disappearance will also take away an extra set of local hoops to jump through and additional cost for people who want to legally keep handguns in Chicago.
As part of the city's registration process, prospective gun owners had to undergo extra training and fill out an additional application for each weapon after getting a state firearm owner's ID card. They also had to pay $100 every three years for a municipal gun permit. Only then could they legally buy a gun and register it, at a cost of $15 per gun. No more than one gun could be registered each month. Registration and permit rules would now fall to the state. Under the legislation, a $150 concealed weapons permit issued by the Illinois State Police to applicants 21 and older would be valid for five years. In addition, 16 hours of training would be required before getting a permit. A series of provisions were was included in an attempt to prevent people with mental health problems from getting guns.
Last year, Emanuel pushed for a statewide gun registry similar to Chicago's, reasoning it would help Chicago police trace guns used in crimes in the city. That idea, which garnered fierce opposition from several lawmakers who said it would be ineffective, did not make it out of the General Assembly.
The Emanuel administration declined to take a position on the new state law or the loss of the registry.
"The Chicago Police Department and the City Law Department are carefully reviewing the conceal carry bill that passed the legislature on (May 31), and it would be premature for us to comment on its impact on city laws before that review is complete," City Hall spokesman Bill McCaffrey said in an email.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Let's then start with the two Boes. Go ahead and turn them in so we can be safer. It has to start somewhere and with someone.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Americans are better shots what can I say, please feel free to turn in your guns box if you think it will help.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Americans are better shots what can I say, please feel free to turn in your guns box if you think it will help.
Yea, just what I figured. You'd bail out on this one.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yea, just what I figured. You'd bail out on this one.
I offered a suggestion to help stop the problem, please feel free to turn in your guns, your guns are obviously dangerous so lead the charge box, show Americans how they should do it.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
No offer to turn their guns in so they can be melted, huh?
Hypocrites.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
No offer to turn their guns in so they can be melted, huh? Hypocrites.
Turn in my guns??? Is that what I want??? From the very beginning, I wanted GOOD GUN LAWS, that are enforced uniformly throughout the USA. As a gun owner and 2nd amendment supporter, the only guns I want off the streets are those of criminals, and terrorists. Background checks for all sales is a good start.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
As a gun owner and 2nd amendment supporter, the only guns I want off the streets are those of criminals, and terrorists.
Yeah that's all you want yet your other posts attack law abiding citizens for the choice of guns they own, you fool nobody.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Yeah that's all you want yet your other posts attack law abiding citizens for the choice of guns they own, you fool nobody.
Box just wants to tell you what kind of gun you own, how many you can own, how many rounds it can hold, what type of bullet it fires, a government register of who owns them, and the government deciding who can own them.
Box just wants to tell you what kind of gun you own, how many you can own, how many rounds it can hold, what type of bullet it fires, a government register of who owns them, and the government deciding who can own them. .
Yup I can see him now, oh the gun is made out of plastic and is black, it must be evil so lets ban that. OMG look at that one it has a pistol grip on it, only military and law enforcement need those type of accessories so that's banned. Let me see this gun, see why do citizens need a 10 round magazine, they must be anti-government gun huggers who want to overthrow the government
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Box just wants to tell you what kind of gun you own, how many you can own, how many rounds it can hold, what type of bullet it fires, a government register of who owns them, and the government deciding who can own them. Just like written in the 2nd Amendment.
Cissy just loves to ignore reality.
He knows that today there are laws that restrict 'what kind of gun you own, what type of ammunition you can buy and who can own guns. He just like to pretend that all this is new!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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