Human error??? A 5 year old with his own .22access to a swimming pool? That isn't an error, it's stupidity! Anyone who would allow a child access to a gun swimming pool is an idiot. There are laws against kids in a car without a seatbelt but no laws against a 3, 4 or 5 year old with his own gun. Ridiculous...and all so that some macho gun slinging @sshole GunHugger swimmer can look cool with his AR 15pool. Explain to those 322 kids killed since Sandy Hook about how important your 2nd amendmentswimming rights are... I'm sure their parents will appreciate it.
My argument lost??? I think not. Reasonable gun control laws are the will of the people... and will eventually pass. Much like early battles over a woman's right to choose, also the will of the people. One battle in this war, where there was no progress forward, but also no ground given.
The vast majority of Americans (even the majority of NRA Members) support reasonable gun laws... Many who vote against it will find themselves on the wrong side of history come election day.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
There are manyy ways a person can die- drowning is certainly one way, shark attacks and even vending machines can kill you. A car is a machine designed to get from one place to another- but because of its weight and speed can kill also.
A gun is a tool designed for one thing only - its primary purpose is to kill. Is using a swimming pool realy a good analogy? Really?
My argument lost??? I think not. Reasonable gun control laws are the will of the people... and will eventually pass. Much like early battles over a woman's right to choose, also the will of the people. One battle in this war, where there was no progress forward, but also no ground given.
The vast majority of Americans (even the majority of NRA Members) support reasonable gun laws... Many who vote against it will find themselves on the wrong side of history come election day.
Crashed and burned.
Gun control is a lost cause.
All you idiots have accomplished is you have turned millions of Americans towards the Republican party to put a stop to your rights trampling efforts.
Your hype and fanning the flames of hysteria are nothing but scare tactics to grab personal freedoms by the balls.
There are manyy ways a person can die- drowning is certainly one way, shark attacks and even vending machines can kill you. A car is a machine designed to get from one place to another- but because of its weight and speed can kill also.
A gun is a tool designed for one thing only - its primary purpose is to kill. Is using a swimming pool realy a good analogy? Really?
Is is exactly the proper analogy.
Guns are not made to kill children.
Swimming pools aren't either.
They are both recreational sports that cause death and injury when used improperly.
Swimming, however, kills 5 times as many children as guns..
There are manyy ways a person can die- drowning is certainly one way, shark attacks and even vending machines can kill you. A car is a machine designed to get from one place to another- but because of its weight and speed can kill also.
A gun is a tool designed for one thing only - its primary purpose is to kill. Is using a swimming pool realy a good analogy? Really?
Somebody... If you use 'logic' and 'reason' it will just confuse them further. They only understand emotion and especially the emotion of fear... facts are disregarded as irrelevant.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Somebody... If you use 'logic' and 'reason' it will just confuse them further. They only understand emotion and especially the emotion of fear... facts are disregarded as irrelevant.
Hysterical freedom trampling whiners against gun rights.
The parents of the dead kids who drowned probably appreciate your ignoring their issue and going after guns, which is a much smaller issue.
They are both recreational sports that cause death and injury when used improperly.
Swimming, however, kills 5 times as many children as guns..
Guns are SPECIFICALLY made to kill. Swimming pool to SWIM? vending machinesfor VENDING? a gun can be used for fun but it is a tool desiged for killing.
There are manyy ways a person can die- drowning is certainly one way, shark attacks and even vending machines can kill you. A car is a machine designed to get from one place to another- but because of its weight and speed can kill also.
A gun is a tool designed for one thing only - its primary purpose is to kill. Is using a swimming pool realy a good analogy? Really?
What's the difference when the outcome are the same? The only difference is pools and toys kill more kids then guns do, I don't blame pools and toys for their higher death count I blame human error. Why isn't there anti-pool groups or anti-toy groups, because there is no political agenda for it, but throw in a gun death and all of a sudden its a worse tragedy then a kid who choked to death or drowned
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Guns are SPECIFICALLY made to kill. a gun can be used for fun but it is a tool designed for killing.
Guns are a tool.
A tool that can save lives.
Guns save lives every day.
Sure guns kill.
Killing with guns is allowable on animals most of the time, and people under certain conditions.
The argument is that 40 kids died from guns since sandy hook.
The counter argument is that 322 kids died from swimming during that same time period.
Plus that was the winter.
In a rational world, the worst issue would be brought to light, then the next most dangerous sport, and so on.
Gun grabbing freedom hating agenda demanders are using the dead kids as a weapon to force the government to address the minor issue, while ignoring the major issue.
Gun control freaks are rabid over guns, not over deaths.
That deals the death blow to their hypocritical cause.
What's the difference when the outcome are the same? The only difference is pools and toys kill more kids then guns do, I don't blame pools and toys for their higher death count I blame human error. Why isn't there anti-pool groups or anti-toy groups, because there is no political agenda for it, but throw in a gun death and all of a sudden its a worse tragedy then a kid who choked to death or drowned
I think that Somebody and I agree on the inappropriateness of this entire view...
If cars kill kids at a greater number than swimming pools do... we should ignore Pools???? Does that lack of logic work for you???
If an easy, inexpensive solution could be found to prevent the death of every child in a swimming pools, (by this convoluted logic) we should ignore the swimming pool solution BECAUSE MORE KIDS DIE IN CARS.
If more kids die from car accidents than they do from cancer... and we have some solutions to childhood cancer.... we should ignore those solutions until we find a solution for car deaths.
If more kids die from car wrecks than they do from poisoning... and we have a cure for all childhood poisons... we should let those children die from poision until such time as we can find a remedy for car wreck deaths.
How backasswards does this thinking have to get before a semi intelligent being can see through this argument??? (apparently pretty backwards)
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.” ― Christopher Hitchens,
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I think that Somebody and I agree on the inappropriateness of this entire view...
If cars kill kids at a greater number than swimming pools do... we should ignore Pools???? Does that lack of logic work for you???
If an easy, inexpensive solution could be found to prevent the death of every child in a swimming pools, (by this convoluted logic) we should ignore the swimming pool solution BECAUSE MORE KIDS DIE IN CARS.
If more kids die from car accidents than they do from cancer... and we have some solutions to childhood cancer.... we should ignore those solutions until we find a solution for car deaths.
If more kids die from car wrecks than they do from poisoning... and we have a cure for all childhood poisons... we should let those children die from poision until such time as we can find a remedy for car wreck deaths.
How backasswards does this thinking have to get before a semi intelligent being can see through this argument??? (apparently pretty backwards)
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.” ― Christopher Hitchens,
How many posts have you made about pool deaths or choking deaths? 0 that is how many. How many have you made about gun deaths 15-20, don't tell me your agenda is about saving kids. I have stated numerous times all gun owners should take classes and teach their kids gun safety and proper care, you instead just want to bash all gun owners because it fits your anti-2nd amendment agenda. If you have kids and want to take them swimming you would teach them how to swim 1st would you not, it is no different then guns, not teaching them could be fatal.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Henry they don't realize that some people like to shoot competitive skeet, combat courses against the clock, pistol shooting for speed and accuracy, as well as hunting and self defense.
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