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Libertarian4life
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STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE happened here....
round in the gun...no one practiced gun control
weapon in corner....not locked away
5 yr old handles weapon without adult present....ignorance at it's best
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You can't use force to make the rest of the people in the world act according to your values.

You want to judge lifestyles other than your own.

Kids are allowed guns from their parents, not from the government.

Family values are decided by the family. Use of force to inflict societal values is communism.

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Freedom and rights are not free.

A child's death caused by retarded irresponsible parenting, is no excuse to punish all other parents.

Today it was a gun. Tomorrow a child will burn down a house and kill people after finding a lighter.

Kids do stupid crap. They need supervision.

Using these types of incidents to pass laws that punish good responsible parents is not the solution.



Agreed, the only reason this was brought up was because gun control is the new topic, as mentioned how many will drown, how many will burn their houses down. how many will swallow bleach, as you see those types are not brought up because there is no agenda to be had, throw in a gun however and its front page news.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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You can't use force to make the rest of the people in the world act according to your values.
You want to judge lifestyles other than your own.
Kids are allowed guns from their parents, not from the government.
Family values are decided by the family. Use of force to inflict societal values is communism.


I don't believe I said any of that...I presented a view of what happened.
How did I judge?
How am I imposing my views on the rest of the people?
Frankly, you and your butt buddy are the ones that try to impose your
ways on everyone else. You can't think outside of your demented
narrow world! Just like your buddy, you only have canned thoughts
to use...gotta fit them in every change you can!!!!



JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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L4L,

I've never read a post where you "imposed" your world view.  As most know, you can block any forum member at any time, so not to disrupt their safe little world from alien opinion.  Imposing would suggest force.  Joebxr has made it more than clear that he is unable to debate ideas without going off the deep end.  He views any challenge to his posts as impositions, and if they are not presented in a manner predetermined by him, he will go ape sh!t and go onto name calling.  I've never witnessed somebody so ill equip to handle casual debate.


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L4L,

I've never read a post where you "imposed" your world view.  As most know, you can block any forum member at any time, so not to disrupt their safe little world from alien opinion.  Imposing would suggest force.  Joebxr has made it more than clear that he is unable to debate ideas without going off the deep end.  He views any challenge to his posts as impositions, and if they are not presented in a manner predetermined by him, he will go ape sh!t and go onto name calling.  I've never witnessed somebody so ill equip to handle casual debate.


You are the one that has boldly stated you thread jack proudly.
You are the one that cannot hold an intelligent discussion without your canned words.
You're the one that can't handle having an honest and thoughtful discussion
because you are incapable.  Have a nice night JAGOFF SR. WAH, WAH, WAH !!!!
Get a grip!! Stop drooling on the keyboard!!!!


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JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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You are the one that has boldly stated you thread jack proudly.


There is no thread jacking.  You can scroll past the off topic posts or block member.  Those that scream thread jack either disagree the opinions of the member and want to stop it, or take Internet forum etiquette WAAAAY too serious.   And some are like Joebxr, just a sissy.


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You are the one that has boldly stated you thread jack proudly.
You are the one that cannot hold an intelligent discussion without your canned words.
You're the one that can't handle having an honest and thoughtful discussion
because you are incapable.  Have a nice night JAGOFF SR. WAH, WAH, WAH !!!!
Get a grip!! Stop drooling on the keyboard!!!!


Cicero, as you can see above, Joebxr's reply has nothing to do with the topic, your
previous post or anything even resembling a debate.

As I have stated before, his subconscious takes control and types words meant for his
conscious self, as advice.

Readers merely accept that the reply is meant for them, when really he is yelling at and
ridiculing his conscious self repeatedly.

Now his subconscious will reply that "he" is off his meds. The "he" being his conscious self.

Once the reader understands the multiple Joebxrs, he can easily recognize his insane
replies are meant for himself.

Imagine someone claiming that I want to tell others  how to live.

All that I am guilty of is speaking out against those who seek to initiate the use of force
on others. Standard Libertarian beliefs.

The only persons that I judge are those guilty of the use of force on others.

The group of individuals that just want people to be left alone are targeted as
trouble making conspiracy crazies.

Those who do the targeting are the ones who defend the use of force on others.

They defend collective rights over individual rights.

Box has been attacking smokers as his latest group that he claims is use of force
against him, by making his government spend money treating them, or by making
his premiums go up.

The selectively enforced crimes against the collective.

He is Borg.

Defender of the state's rights to arrest, incarcerate or kill all who dare to get
in the way , or live lifestyles outside of the government approved curriculum.

Joebxr is a schizophrenic, mulitiple personality, Tourettes syndrome suffering
ego-maniac, in serious need of anger management and an education in
tolerance.

"Wah, wah  wah, drool drool foam."

He cries out publicly for help from his own thoughts.

He is tormented and suffering. I don't see any way to help him to find peace.

"Peace?, you f'ng crzy conspiracy jagoff. wah, wah drool, drool, foam"

Words directed at himself, but posted publicly.

Very sad.

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There is no thread jacking.  You can scroll past the off topic posts or block member.  Those that scream thread jack either disagree the opinions of the member and want to stop it, or take Internet forum etiquette WAAAAY too serious.   And some are like Joebxr, just a sissy.


The Thread Jagoffs are those that can offer nothing constructive or intelligent to the thread so the thread jack, CISSY!!!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Cicero, as you can see above, Joebxr's reply has nothing to do with the topic, your
previous post or anything even resembling a debate.

As I have stated before, his subconscious takes control and types words meant for his
conscious self, as advice.

Readers merely accept that the reply is meant for them, when really he is yelling at and
ridiculing his conscious self repeatedly.

Now his subconscious will reply that "he" is off his meds. The "he" being his conscious self.

Once the reader understands the multiple Joebxrs, he can easily recognize his insane
replies are meant for himself.

Imagine someone claiming that I want to tell others  how to live.

All that I am guilty of is speaking out against those who seek to initiate the use of force
on others. Standard Libertarian beliefs.

The only persons that I judge are those guilty of the use of force on others.

The group of individuals that just want people to be left alone are targeted as
trouble making conspiracy crazies.

Those who do the targeting are the ones who defend the use of force on others.

They defend collective rights over individual rights.

Box has been attacking smokers as his latest group that he claims is use of force
against him, by making his government spend money treating them, or by making
his premiums go up.

The selectively enforced crimes against the collective.

He is Borg.

Defender of the state's rights to arrest, incarcerate or kill all who dare to get
in the way , or live lifestyles outside of the government approved curriculum.

Joebxr is a schizophrenic, mulitiple personality, Tourettes syndrome suffering
ego-maniac, in serious need of anger management and an education in
tolerance.

"Wah, wah  wah, drool drool foam."

He cries out publicly for help from his own thoughts.

He is tormented and suffering. I don't see any way to help him to find peace.

"Peace?, you f'ng crzy conspiracy jagoff. wah, wah drool, drool, foam"

Words directed at himself, but posted publicly.

Very sad.



FRIGGIN' HILARIOUS...maybe you should ask the other JAGOFF what's going on
because he carried his tirade from another thread into this one.......
try staying up with it....know it's difficult for your narrow mind to handle such
things, but really, you should try.

While you're at it, care to explain how you feel you could associate me with those earlier comments
when I never gave any indication that I follow those kind of thoughts???  That was where I was ON TOPIC to your post
and Cissy decided to jump in.....he never misses a good opportunity to spew his canned BS.


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JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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While you're at it, care to explain how you feel you could associate me with those earlier comments
when I never gave any indication that I follow those kind of thoughts???  


Random bewilderment.  It is customary to form a question with an actual decipherable question.

Your hemispheres are leaking into each other.

How I could feel that I could associate you with, when you never gave any indication?

Of what?

You can't form a question without trying to be evasive and noncommittal.

Just state your case, then ask for a reply, like a rational human.

You do know how to state a premise or rational hypothesis don't you?

You ask unanswerable questions.

You ignore direct questions and then claim blasphemy when people base your
beliefs on who you attack.

It's called rationalization.

People rationalize that you are against statements and people that you go ballistic over.

Nobody is making anything up. Just because you don't state your beliefs, doesn't mean
you don't display them.

You aren't in court, Joe.

This is a discussion forum.

You are viewed by what and who you bash.

It doesn't matter if you made the direct statement or not.

Your attacks are against liberty, freedom and individual rights, and all those who
support them.

You seem to think you can bully your way through any argument. You fail miserably
then fire up the Tourettes cannon.

Try just typing in honest, open replies to issues that concern you, without the
anger and aggression.
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Parents DID decide....a 2 yr old girl is dead!!!
Parental choice or Government control or Psych exams would not have made a difference.
STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE happened here....
round in the gun...no one practiced gun control
weapon in corner....not locked away
5 yr old handles weapon without adult present....ignorance at it's best
Now a 2 yr old dead...a 5 yr old to live the rest of his life knowing
he murdered his sister....parents to live with the two tragedies for the rest of their lives!



and that's life....just like choosing abortion

it's still choice,,,dumb or not




...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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and that's life....just like choosing abortion

it's still choice,,,dumb or not




BINGO !


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The Voters Remember Background Checks

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A new survey from Public Policy Polling shows that voters are more likely to vote to reelect
Landrieu and Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), two red-state Democrats up for reelection in 2014 who also
voted in favor of expanding background checks. Forty-four percent of likely voters are more likely
to vote for Landrieu, while 26 percent are less likely. In North Carolina, 52 percent of voters are
more likely to vote for Hagan, while 26 percent are less likely.

The poll had the reverse effect for the senators' Republican counterparts up for reelection in
2016, both of whom voted against the amendment sponsored by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.)
and Pat Toomey (D-Pa.). Fifty percent of North Carolinians are less likely to vote for Sen.
Richard Burr (R-N.C.), while just 27 percent are more likely. Forty percent of voters in
Louisiana are less likely to vote for Sen. David Vitter (R-La.), while 25 percent are more
likely.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Boston Principal Fires Security,
Funds More Arts,
Sees Test Scores Skyrocket!


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Orchard Gardens, of Roxbury, Massachusetts, was founded in 2003, but quickly fell to the bottom
of public schools in the state. Of 800 students, “more than 90% qualify for free or reduced lunch,
25% are learning to speak English, and 25% require Individual Education Plans to meet special needs.
The school had a 'prison feel'.”

Principal Andrew Bott gutted the security program and, instead, revitalized music and dance programs.
To his, and everyone else’s, delight, students are not only reading at grade level more and performing
better on tests, but they are also more well-behaved.


There is much pride over what has happened at Orchard Gardens. It shows that violence begets violence,
while letting all of that go and trying something different can yield amazing results.

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See that, NRA? Fewer guns and more arts can make a positive difference. I am
sure the NRA is sh*tting your pants over the possibility of other schools around the
nation taking a leaf out of Andrew Bott’s book, but you should look at the end result
instead, and be glad that at least one school is doing what is right for our students.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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