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I have no doubt that the will of the American people will be heard.  Assault weapons will be restricted
or if pushed hard enough by GunHuggers, they may eventually end up being banned altogether.
It's just a matter of time.  


LMAO, we are in a new age of technology box, gone are the days of any attempt to ban a gun could be successful, how I love science.


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There are so many assault weapons already in this country and passing a feel good law will not make them all disappear.
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I have no doubt that the will of the American people will be heard.  Assault weapons will be restricted
or if pushed hard enough by GunHuggers, they may eventually end up being banned altogether.
It's just a matter of time.  


Nah -- most Americans are NOT extreme left-wing nuts and that is why the gun control bill failed.  Politicians like Obama, Reid, Pelosi-Tonko, et al govern so far to the extreme left that they do not represent the mainstream of America.


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There are so many assault weapons already in this country and passing a feel good law will not make them all disappear.

You're right.  It will prevent any new guns and a gun buyback plan could also help reduce their numbers.
The reason there are so many today is the NRA's well run program to end the 1993 assault
weapons ban.


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First, if you ban assault weapons they will come into the country the same way illegal drugs do, black market. Second. nobody in their right mind is going to turn in a gun worth $2000 for a $50 gift card.
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First, if you ban assault weapons they will come into the country the same way illegal drugs do, black market. Second. nobody in their right mind is going to turn in a gun worth $2000 for a $50 gift card.


You are 100% correct -- and NONE of the gun control proposals would have stopped incidents like Sandy Hook or Aurora.  Furthermore, the Obama administration is not only NOT enforcing existing gun laws .. it is breaking them with programs like "Fast and Furious."


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First, if you ban assault weapons they will come into the country the same way illegal drugs do, black market. Second. nobody in their right mind is going to turn in a gun worth $2000 for a $50 gift card.


OF course they aren't.  Why would think they would???

Australia HAD assault weapons but decided against them.  They bought back all the assault weapons
and the country is almost assault weapon free.  
America is not Australia, but a similar program could eventually work here.


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OF course they aren't.  Why would think they would???

Australia HAD assault weapons but decided against them.  They bought back all the assault weapons
and the country is almost assault weapon free.  
America is not Australia, but a similar program could eventually work here.


Australia had a record breaking massive increase in home invasions and rapes since the gun ban.

The gun ban emboldened the criminals.

Australia is the worst argument for gun banning success!


Now any idiot with a knife gets whatever he chooses.

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America Support Background Checks

April 29, 2013






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Most people have no problem with background checks as long as the information isn't put into a permanent national registry.
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Most people have no problem with background checks as long as the information isn't put into a permanent national registry.


Tell that to the Republican and 4 Dem senators who voted against it.  They'd be interested to
know that they voted against the will of their constituency.


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Poll says Americans Fear Background Checks Could Lead To Gun Confiscation
April 6, 2013

Acccording to a poll, American voters say 48 - 38 percent that the government could use the information from universal background checks to confiscate legally-owned guns, but voters still support universal gun background checks 91 - 8 percent, including 88 - 11 percent among voters in households with guns, according to a Quinnipiac University poll.

Gun owners believe 53 - 34 percent that universal background checks could lead to confiscation of legal guns, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.

"In every Quinnipiac University poll since the Newtown massacre, nationally and in six states, we find overwhelming support, including among gun owners, for universal background checks," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. "American voters agree with the National Rifle Association, however, that these background checks could lead someday to confiscation of legally-owned guns."

"The question is how many of these voters fear confiscation as an abuse of government power and how many are hoping the government uses confiscation to get more guns off the street," Brown added.

Expecting gun confiscation are Republicans 61 - 25 percent and independent voters 51 - 36 percent, while Democrats say 54 - 32 percent there will not be confiscation. Men say confiscation is likely 52 - 37 percent and women agree 45 - 38 percent.

The poll results are available at http://www.quinnipiac.edu/inst.....etail?ReleaseID=1877
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Backlash Against Senators On Gun Vote

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"But now, the cowards defied the will of most Americans and helped the hardliners and
hypocrites prevail. They allowed themselves to be cowed into submission by a loud but very
unrepresentative minority of NRA members who threatened retribution against anyone who
voted in favor of the bill."

– Dallas Morning News

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"It is a day that will live in shameful infamy for the U.S. Senate. … President Barack
Obama was justifiably angry when he called out senators for their shameful failure.”

– Sacramento Bee

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"We should all be nauseated by the people we send to Washington to represent us.
If there was any doubt, just look at the vote on gun legislation Wednesday. It would be
shameful, except too many of our politicians have no shame. Again, the gun bill showed
that. Poll after poll shows 90 percent of Americans favor expanded background checks.
Nobody wants the mentally ill having a gun. Nobody, that is, except many of your senators.
They just don’t care.”

– Sun-Sentinel

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“The low lights of the past week reveal a Washington political establishment even more
deeply dysfunctional than we've known. … Our elected representatives, chosen by America,
have failed us. And what's most dispiriting is how expected their failures have become."

– Connecticut Post

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“A cowardly minority of senators blocked a gun background-check proposal on Wednesday,
in one vote betraying both the will of the American people and the charge voters gave them to
work in their interest. … Perhaps most insulting was the bizarre conspiracy theories on which
many of the opponents grounded their disapproval.”

– The Washington Post

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“Senators' votes on gun proposals reflect profiles in cowardice. ... It's hard to exaggerate
what a shameful display the Senate votes were, or what a distortion of democracy.”

– USA Today

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“Patricia Maisch, who survived a mass shooting in Tucson in 2011, spoke for many in the
country when she shouted from the Senate gallery: ‘Shame on you.’ … The only thing that
mattered to these lawmakers was a blind and unthinking fealty to the whims of the gun lobby.”

– The New York Times

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“The massacre of 20 children by a madman with an assault rifle was of no moment as
the Senate voted down the most reasonable of gun controls in a cowardly, unconscionable
choice of ideology over life. People will die because too many senators of both parties voted not
just against banning the most lethal firearms and ammunition magazines, but also against
imposing near-universal background checks on gun buyers.”

– New York Daily News

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"On Wednesday, faced with a choice that spoke volumes about our national conscience,
46 U.S. senators voted to move on. What a shame indeed.”

– Minneapolis Star Tribune


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The lame stream media always has a lot to say when they push an agenda but not a peep about horrific abortion trial going on in Penn.
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