The Irish Times - Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Woman 'denied a termination' dies in hospital

Savita Halappanavar, who was found to be miscarrying when admitted, died of septicaemia at University Hospital GalwaySavita Halappanavar, who was found to be miscarrying when admitted, died of septicaemia at University Hospital Galway

KITTY HOLLAND and PAUL CULLEN, Health Correspondent

Two investigations are under way into the death of a woman who was 17 weeks pregnant, at University Hospital Galway last month.

Savita Halappanavar (31), a dentist, presented with back pain at the hospital on October 21st, was found to be miscarrying, and died of septicaemia a week later.

Her husband, Praveen Halappanavar (34), an engineer at Boston Scientific in Galway, says she asked several times over a three-day period that the pregnancy be terminated. He says that, having been told she was miscarrying, and after one day in severe pain, Ms Halappanavar asked for a medical termination.

This was refused, he says, because the foetal heartbeat was still present and they were told, “this is a Catholic country”.

She spent a further 2½ days “in agony” until the foetal heartbeat stopped.

Intensive care

The dead foetus was removed and Savita was taken to the high dependency unit and then the intensive care unit, where she died of septicaemia on the 28th.

An autopsy carried out by Dr Grace Callagy two days later found she died of septicaemia “documented ante-mortem” and E.coli ESBL.

A hospital spokesman confirmed the Health Service Executive had begun an investigation while the hospital had also instigated an internal investigation. He said the hospital extended its sympathy to the family and friends of Ms Halappanavar but could not discuss the details of any individual case.

Speaking from Belgaum in the Karnataka region of southwest India, Mr Halappanavar said an internal examination was performed when she first presented.

“The doctor told us the cervix was fully dilated, amniotic fluid was leaking and unfortunately the baby wouldn’t survive.” The doctor, he says, said it should be over in a few hours. There followed three days, he says, of the foetal heartbeat being checked several times a day.

“Savita was really in agony. She was very upset, but she accepted she was losing the baby. When the consultant came on the ward rounds on Monday morning Savita asked if they could not save the baby could they induce to end the pregnancy. The consultant said, ‘As long as there is a foetal heartbeat we can’t do anything’.

“Again on Tuesday morning, the ward rounds and the same discussion. The consultant said it was the law, that this is a Catholic country. Savita [a Hindu] said: ‘I am neither Irish nor Catholic’ but they said there was nothing they could do.

“That evening she developed shakes and shivering and she was vomiting. She went to use the toilet and she collapsed. There were big alarms and a doctor took bloods and started her on antibiotics.

“The next morning I said she was so sick and asked again that they just end it, but they said they couldn’t.”

Critically ill

At lunchtime the foetal heart had stopped and Ms Halappanavar was brought to theatre to have the womb contents removed. “When she came out she was talking okay but she was very sick. That’s the last time I spoke to her.”

At 11 pm he got a call from the hospital. “They said they were shifting her to intensive care. Her heart and pulse were low, her temperature was high. She was sedated and critical but stable. She stayed stable on Friday but by 7pm on Saturday they said her heart, kidneys and liver weren’t functioning. She was critically ill. That night, we lost her.”

Mr Halappanavar took his wife’s body home on Thursday, November 1st, where she was cremated and laid to rest on November 3rd.

The hospital spokesman said that in general sudden hospital deaths were reported to the coroner. In the case of maternal deaths, a risk review of the case was carried out.

External experts were involved in this review and the family consulted on the terms of reference. They were also interviewed by the review team and given a copy of the report.

it's beyond the religion....

ask them where the penis abortion/birth control is


IT'S GENDER BIASED

Welcome to the dark ages.

It's sad the fetus died.

Quoted from CICERO

It's sad the fetus died.

even if it lived

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New blood joins this earth
And quikly he's subdued
Through constant pained disgrace
The young boy learns their rules

With time the child draws in
This whipping boy done wrong
Deprived of all his thoughts
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A vow unto his own
That never from this day
His will they'll take away

What I've felt
What I've known
Never shined through in what I've shown
Never be
Never see
Won't see what might have been

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What I've known
Never shined through in what I've shown
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That old man here is me

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What I've known
Never shined through in what I've shown
Never be
Never see
Won't see what might have been

What I've felt
What I've known
Never shined through in what I've shown
Never free
Never me
So I dub the unforgiven

You labeled me
I'll label you
So I dub the unforgiven

Quoted from CICERO

It's sad the fetus died.

It's sad the PERSON died.  The Mom could have gone on to have many healthy children... but instead
the church goes on... and the people suffer.

Quoted from Box A Rox

It's sad the PERSON died.  The Mom could have gone on to have many healthy children... but instead
the church goes on... and the people suffer.

I agree, it's sad the MOTHER died too.

Quoted from CICERO

I agree, it's sad the MOTHER died too.

Cicero lives in an alternate universe...
They held a funeral for all the people who died... there was only ONE FUNERAL!  It was for
Savita Halappanavar.

No one else even suggested that they might need another funeral since there was only one person who
died in that incident.

Quoted from Box A Rox

Cicero lives in an alternate universe...
They held a funeral for all the people who died... there was only ONE FUNERAL!  It was for
Savita Halappanavar.

No one else even suggested that they might need another funeral since there was only one person who
died in that incident.

See, I don't care what other people suggest.  I don't buy into the demented cult of deaths definition of life.  A funeral ceremony doesn't signify death.  If that's the case the Holocaust never happened.

That's like saying a tree that falls in the forest with nobody around doesn't make a sound.

Quoted from CICERO

See, I don't care what other people suggest.  I don't buy into the demented cult of deaths definition of life.  A funeral ceremony doesn't signify death.  If that's the case the Holocaust never happened.

That's like saying a tree that falls in the forest with nobody around doesn't make a sound.

People died in the holocaust.  They had names, families, many had a number tattooed on their forearm.
Those people were born, lived and died.  

If Cicero speaks in the woods, and people hear it... does it still not make much sense?

Quoted from Box A Rox

People died in the holocaust.  They had names, families, many had a number tattooed on their forearm.
Those people were born, lived and died.  

?

Yeah, a family, a name and an arm tattoo equal life.  That makes sense.  Famliless, nameless, tatoo-less people are expendable.  The philosophy of the death cult.

Quoted from CICERO

Yeah, a family, a name and an arm tattoo equal life.  That makes sense.  Famliless, nameless, tatoo-less people are expendable.  The philosophy of the death cult.

Cic always gets it wrong...  
Even his "Famliless, nameless, tatoo-less people" ARE STILL PEOPLE.  Thus the difference.
Saying a human limb is a person doesn't make it so, saying a human fetus is a person, doesn't make it so.
At some point in time that fetus may actually be a person... but until then, it's a fetus... NOT A PERSON.  

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Funeral Rites Through Time

60,000 BC- Neanderthals use flowers and antlers to decorate the dead

5000 BC

4000 BC- The art of Embalming was originated by the Egyptians

3000 BC

2000 BC

1523-1028 BC- The beginning of the practice of Ancestor Worship in China  during the  
                          Shang Dynasty

1000 BC

500   BC

410   BC- The use of Catacombs for burial ended

353   BC- The first true Mausoleum was built, for the Carian ruler Mausolus.
              Begun before his death in 353 B.C., construction of the Mausoleum was
              continued by his wife It ranked as one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient
              World

300   BC

230   BC- Hokenoyama tomb oldest know burial chamber in Japan

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300- Japanese developed their unique keyhole shaped burial mounds, which were used  
    most frequently for important leaders
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1500- Aztecs were known to be celebrating the Day of the Dead

1578- Rediscovery of the Roman Catacombs

1600

1632- Building of the Taj Mahal

1700

1800- Draping of a coffin with a National Flag during the Napoleonic Wars (1796-1815)

1829- Suttee was outlawed in British India

1860's- U.S. Embalming began during the Civil War

1864- Arlington became a military cemetery

1900

1950

1971- U.S. Memorial Day became a Federal holiday

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According to normative practices, which vary, usually the fetus ( if both are dead) is removed from the Mother"s body. sometimes they are buried together, or the fetus is disposed of separately-depending on how far along the pregnancy is- and also if the fetus was damaged in any way- for example a woman could die as a result of impact damage in an automobile accident which might smash the fetus where it could not be restored for viewing, etc.

When "Pro Life" Means Death

A young Indian woman died after being refused an abortion at an Irish hospital while having a miscarriage.
Ireland's strict abortion laws killed her.  

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/16/when-pro-life-means-death.html