Quoted from Box A Rox

10 Poorest states in the USA (welfare states)
(With the exception of N Mexico, all voted for Romney)
41     Oklahoma
42     South Carolina     
43     New Mexico     
44     Louisiana     
45     Tennessee     
46     Alabama     
47     Kentucky     
48     Arkansas     
49     West Virginia     
50     Mississippi


10 Richest states in the USA (donor states)
(With the exception of Alaska, a welfare state, all voted for Obama)
1     Maryland     
2     Alaska     
3     New Jersey     
4     Connecticut     
        District of Columbia     
5     Massachusetts     
6     New Hampshire     
7     Virginia     
8     Hawaii     
9     Delaware     
10     California     

Quoted Text

10 Most Indebted States (averages exclude student loans)
State...........................Average debt............% change

1. California...............$336,169.....................-4%

2. Hawaii....................$321,258....................-7%

3. Maryland................$263,524.....................-0%

4. New Jersey.............$257,462.....................-1%

5. Washington...........$243,758.....................-2%

6. Massachusetts......$242,111.....................-0%

7. Virginia.................$239,186....................-1%

8. Connecticut..........$229,684.....................-3%

9. Colorado...............$219,899....................-1%

10. Nevada................$218,010....................-7%

10 Least Indebted States (averages, excluding student debt)
1. Oklahoma............$126,027...................-3%

2. West Virginia.......$127,535...................-1%

3. Arkansas.............$128,460...................-0%

4. Mississippi..........$129,792..................-2%

5. Indiana................$132,618..................-3%

6. Kansas................$133,606..................-2%

7. North Dakota......$133,823..................+0%

8. Kentucky.............$136,441.................-1%

9. Iowa....................$139,415.................+0%

10. Nebraska..........$139,527..................-1%

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505144_162-36944899/debt-in-america-most--least-indebted-states/

Looks like the richest states are also THE MOST IN DEBT.  They are only rich on paper.  When it's time to pay the piper, they will try to spread their debt onto the fiscally sound red states with lower debt through federal aid.  

The Blue States of America is the Greece, Spain, Portugul and the other bankrupt nations of the EU.  The Red States is the fiscally sound Germany.  The Blue States will expect the Red States to absorb all that debt they ran-up making them the "richest states".  They are only rich as long as they don't have to pay their own debt.  Otherwise, those state economies will collapse.

The Rich States aren't the donar state, since the money they are donating is debt.  

If the red states with little debt seceded and created their own currency, it would be more valuable than those blue states with massive debt.  

Quoted from CICERO

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505144_162-36944899/debt-in-america-most--least-indebted-states/

Looks like the richest states are also THE MOST IN DEBT.  They are only rich on paper.  When it's time to pay the piper, they will try to spread their debt onto the fiscally sound red states with lower debt through federal aid.  
  

Both charts look about the same as a percentage of income.
In the Blue states they buy new Camry's Camaros and Corvettes..
In the Red states they buy used from the selection below:

Per Capita Income

California - $43,104

Oklahoma - $36,421
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104652.html

State Debt

California - $336K

Oklahoma - $126K

California's per capita income is 17% higher

California's debt is 267% higher.

Yeah, just about the same.

Quoted from Box A Rox

In the Blue states they buy new Camry's Camaros and Corvettes..
In the Red states they buy used from the selection below:

The Blue States lease or finance their Camry's Camaros and Corvettes.

The Red States buy used with cash.

Let me rephrase for Cicero and I'll T y p e  s l o w l y.

The percentage of change seems similar:
1. California.....................-4%

2. Hawaii....................-7%

3. Maryland.....................-0%

4. New Jersey.....................-1%

5. Washington.....................-2%

6. Massachusetts.....................-0%

7. Virginia....................-1%

8. Connecticut.....................-3%

9. Colorado...................-1%

10. Nevada....................-7%

10 Least Indebted States (averages, excluding student debt)
1. Oklahoma...................-3%

2. West Virginia...................-1%

3. Arkansas..................-0%

4. Mississippi..................-2%

5. Indiana..................-3%

6. Kansas..................-2%

7. North Dakota..................+0%

8. Kentucky.................-1%

9. Iowa.................+0%

10. Nebraska..................-1%

When you live in a Blue state and you have a good paying (union) job, you can afford to borrow for
a home, car or boat.
When you live in a Red state and you are on welfare 6 mo a year, you can afford to borrow a shovel
a rake or if your lucky a cordless drill.

NY state:


Louisiana

The difference is...The person in the Red State OWNS their house.  




CALIFORNIA/NEVADA/FLORIDA

These are some of the beautiful homes in a very blue state:  
The true picture of the California housing market – 114,000 foreclosures listed on the MLS but 257,000 foreclosures are active. Over 622,000 homes are in foreclosure or have missed at least one mortgage payment. 30 percent of California homeowners in negative equity. Net worth and income data for the state.

I find it extremely useful to take the pulse of the overall housing market in California by combining multiple data sources.  One of the bigger driving forces that will put a wet blanket on housing for years to come is the stagnant decade of wages.  This is problematic especially when prices are still unaffordable for households in local markets.  I think people over estimate how much wealth is out there or how evenly distributed it is.  They see the nice European luxury cars but don’t see the $800 monthly lease payment being sucked out of the dwindling checking account.  They see the McMansion but don’t see the massive 30 year mortgage.  Talking about income is taboo yet flaunting artifacts of wealth is a daily thing here in California.  I’ve seen brand new Jaguars pulling up to recycle large trash bags of cans and Hybrid Escalades at the 99 Cents Store.  No doubt the really rich are among us but simply looking at purses and cars is not exactly the best indicator (especially when you see $70,000+ cars parked outside 600 square foot apartment complexes on the Westside of LA).  Let us look at the state of California housing as it stands today.

The housing situation in California – Q1 of 2012

Let us first look at owner-occupied data.  I get readers looking for this data all the time because it does speak to the California housing situation.  55 percent of occupied housing is owner-occupied (45 percent is renter occupied):

This is thought-provoking.  Over 75 percent of those that “own” a California home carry it with a mortgage.  This is a much higher rate than nationwide data.  More disturbing is when we bring in another data source and examine how many households are underwater.  When we do this, we find that 30 percent of the approximately 5,100,000 owner occupied-homes are underwater (aka negative equity).  In other words, a renter would be in a better spot because these owners have negative equity and would have to bring money to the table even to sell their home.  If we include those that are near negative equity (another 5 percent) the combined figure balloons to 35 percent of all owner-occupied units.  To put this in perspective, there are more “owners” with negative equity than folks that own their homes outright in California.  Is it any wonder then why the shadow inventory is so large in this state?

You have to think of the psychology at work here as well.  The notion is that being a homeowner all of a sudden connotes a sense of wealth yet 35 percent of those homeowners are actually worse off than renters.  The above data shows this.  In other words, dig deeper into the various data sources.  And how many others only have 10, 15, or 20 percent equity which is eroding away as California home prices make new lows?   http://www.doctorhousingbubble.....alifornia-net-worth/

it doesn't matter which state.....it's all about the status quo....

An Alabama man who started a petition calling for the White House to allow his state to peacefully secede
from the Union says he’s angry that the government forced him to close his topless car wash.

WKRG-TV managed to track down Derrick Belcher, the man responsible for the petition calling for Alabama’s
secession.

The 45-year-old trucking company manager was really just upset because his Euro Details topless car wash
had been shut down by the government.

Quoted from Box A Rox

An Alabama man who started a petition calling for the White House to allow his state to peacefully secede
from the Union says he’s angry that the government forced him to close his topless car wash.

WKRG-TV managed to track down Derrick Belcher, the man responsible for the petition calling for Alabama’s
secession.

The 45-year-old trucking company manager was really just upset because his Euro Details topless car wash
had been shut down by the government.

Well, of course he doesn't have the "choice" to operate a topless car wash.  Free choice only applies to abortion; all other choice must be highly regulated to protect the individual from making a choice that isn't arbitrarily prescribed by the state.  

topless IS art; isn't it?????

porn?

if they serve milkshakes is it food porn?

Quoted from senders

topless IS art; isn't it?????

porn?

if they serve milkshakes is it food porn?

Topless is freedom of expression.

I seriously doubt that any federal law prohibited his topless car wash.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Topless is freedom of expression.

I seriously doubt that any federal law prohibited his topless car wash.

really? what if they were smoking cigarettes or selling cigarettes? of course they would have to pay for permits.

boobie permit
car wash permit
cigarette permit

then

boobie tax
water tax(for the wash)
cigarette tax

I know I'm leaving a lot out of this....can you explain to me the 'freedom' of expression, trade, capitalism etc.......