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Top secret Benghazi documents prove Obama administration 'knew about terrorist attack within minutes'

    Newly declassified testimonies about what happened among Pentagon officials the night of the Benghazi attack on September 11, 2012 have been obtained by Fox News
    The documents show the U.S. military found out about 15 minutes after the attack - which killed four Americans - that it was an act of terror and communicated that to the Obama administration
    However the government - including Obama and then-U.S. Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, who were in the throes of the 2012 US Presidential election - maintained for two weeks afterward the attack started as a protest against an anti-Islamic film and turned violent


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....s.html#ixzz2qZS5Itkf
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Susan Rice was lying through her teeth about a Youtube video, Box! I heard and saw her, you did too! That, was indeed, an attempt at a coverup. The new report says nothing at all about a Youtube video, yet you maintain that the report says there "was no coverup". BS. I just told you what the coverup was, you try to tell me some other things the bald-faced liar said, as if that refutes what I said. It does not, and you are WRONG when you state that there was no coverup. What then, was the reason for this woman running around lying on 5 shows? What was the reason for Susan Rice and the Secretary of State to keep mentioning a video? They KNEW it wasn't true. I knew it wasn't true, and so do you.

Hillary Gets Knifed in Benghazi Drive By
John Ransom | Jan 17, 2014
So Benghazi finally claims another victim.

The knife sticking out of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s back was stuck there slowly by fellow pantsuiter, Sen. Diane Fienstein, (D-Kalf.) who chairs the Senate Intelligence committee for the gentleman’s club also known as the United States Senate.http://finance.townhall.com/co.....zi-drive-by-n1780493
An interesting take on the report, one I find myself agreeing with.
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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The Pinocchio Test

Boxer would have been on firmer ground if she had echoed the broad point made by the Accountability Review Board that both Republicans and Democrats in Congress repeatedly have failed to provide the State Department with the requested resources. Instead she narrowly tailored her critique to the two-year period when Republicans were in control of the House, failing to mention that Democrats have also “cut” the president’s budget request. Thus her remarks lacked significant context.

Indeed, it is almost as if Boxer is living in a time warp, repeating talking points from six months ago that barely acknowledge the fact that extensive investigations have found little evidence of her claim that “there was not enough security because the budget was cut.”

State Department officials repeatedly told Congress that a lack of funds was not an issue. Instead, security was hampered because of bureaucratic issues and management failures. In other words, given the internal failures, no amount of money for the State Department likely would have made a difference in this tragedy.

Three Pinocchios


http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....79289a31f9_blog.html
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GOP Report:
U.S. Military Couldn’t Have Changed Benghazi Outcome



"The House Armed Services Committee concludes that there was no way for the U.S. military
to have responded in time to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya to save the four
Americans killed that night."
(The report debunks entirely a right-wing myth that says the White House ordered the military
not to intervene)

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“Given the military’s preparations on September 11, 2012, majority members have not
yet discerned any response alternatives that could have likely changed the outcome of the
Benghazi attack,” the report concludes.
This tracks with the repeated insistence from the White House and Pentagon over the months
that everything possible had been done once the military assets in the region had mobilized.


Yes the entire Benghazi Conspiracy was nothing more than GOP invented Bull$hit!


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Yes the entire Benghazi Conspiracy was nothing more than GOP invented Bull$hit!


I can feel your stupid through my screen....


http://freebeacon.com/national-security/benghazi-emails-show-white-house-effort-to-protect-obama/

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Benghazi Emails Show White House Effort to Protect Obama

Staff attempted to insulate president’s policies from criticism ahead of election

Previously unreleased internal Obama administration emails show that a coordinated effort was made in the days following the Benghazi terror attacks to portray the incident as “rooted in [an] Internet video, and not [in] a broader failure or policy.”

Emails sent by senior White House adviser Ben Rhodes to other top administration officials reveal an effort to insulate President Barack Obama from the attacks that killed four Americans.

Rhodes sent this email to top White House officials such as David Plouffe and Jay Carney just a day before National Security Adviser Susan Rice made her infamous Sunday news show appearances to discuss the attack.

The “goal,” according to these emails, was “to underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure or policy.”


http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1919_production-4-17-14.pdf#page=14

Full Document: http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/1919_production-4-17-14/

Even the MSM is starting to crack....Watch this total cringe worthy performance by spokesliar Jay Carney.







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THE WASHINGTON FREE BEACON:
The Washington Free Beacon is an American web site that publishes news and associated
content from a U.S. conservative perspective It states it is "committed to serving the
public interest by reporting news and information that currently is not being fully covered by
other news organizations.


JUDICIAL WATCH:
Judicial Watch is a politically conservative government watchdog group.

If all you read is Right Wing Bull $hit, all you will know is Right Wing Bull $hit!


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Box got the call from the DNC to turn on the BS machine and try to defend this lying administration again.
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Box got the call from the DNC to turn on the BS machine and try to defend this lying administration again.


Did I defend anything??? I just pointed out that the post contained very Right Wing sources.  
Kind of like me posting something from Daily Kos and expecting everyone to take it as fact.  


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Right on queue.


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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Did I defend anything??? I just pointed out that the post contained very Right Wing sources.  
Kind of like me posting something from Daily Kos and expecting everyone to take it as fact.  


Unlike you Boxy, I never hide where I get my stuff. I always post links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Free_Beacon

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Washington Free Beacon is an American web site that publishes news and associated content from a U.S. conservative perspective.[1][2][3] It states it is "committed to serving the public interest by reporting news and information that currently is not being fully covered by other news organizations."


I didn't realize WIKI was a reliable source.  ....Just sayin'.

But you are correct. The WFB is pretty solid on the right but no more than other legit orgs. such as HuffPo or Daily Beast, which are pretty solid on the left.

Judicial Watch is a activist group, I don't deny that either. I would however argue that they are a libertarian org. rather than a conservative one, but that's not relevant here.

I would understand if this was commentary, but it isn't.

It's emails obtained by Judicial Watch after they sued the Gov. (and won) under the FOIA. (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-00951)). Congress requested these exact same documents back in August, but was stonewalled by the admin. by sending them the emails in an redacted unreadable form.

Because these emails are unclassified, the Gov. had NO CHOICE but to hand them over, save email addresses, personal information, phone numbers that are, of course, redacted. Pretty pathetic that it took an activist group to sue to get the documents asked by Congress.

So now we have the 'smoking gun' where none should ever exist. After all, this scandal is a complete fabrication by the GOP...Right Boxy?





  

  





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Judicial Watch is a activist group, I don't deny that either. I would however argue that they are a libertarian org. rather than a conservative one, but that's not relevant here.

I would understand if this was commentary, but it isn't.

It's emails obtained by Judicial Watch after they sued the Gov. (and won) under the FOIA. (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-00951)). Congress requested these exact same documents back in August, but was stonewalled by the admin. by sending them the emails in an redacted unreadable form.

Because these emails are unclassified, the Gov. had NO CHOICE but to hand them over, save email addresses, personal information, phone numbers that are, of course, redacted. Pretty pathetic that it took an activist group to sue to get the documents asked by Congress.

So now we have the 'smoking gun' where none should ever exist. After all, this scandal is a complete fabrication by the GOP...Right Boxy?


Their 'lunch order' is also unclassified information... and just as important as this piece.
The Benghazi 'inquisition' was a multi million dollar right wing witch hunt that found no witches...
not even a broom stick.



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It's never the event but always the cover up.
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The graphic pictured above is getting passed around quite a bit on Facebook lately and it gets posted by liberals whenever the subject of Benghazi comes up. The graphic above with a list of attacks below, supposedly points out that many more people were killed in embassy bombings and shootings under Bush than the 4 who were killed in Benghazi under President Obama. The comparison is made as if somehow sheer numbers excuses a cover up, issuing stand down orders and lying about the cause of the Benghazi consulate attack.

In effect what liberals are saying when they post this graphic is, "Well yes, we know Obama lied about Benghazi, covered up the truth and made up a story as to what caused the attack, but Bush is way worse because there were more embassy attacks and more people died under his watch." Sadly, this is simply part of the "blame Bush for everything that happens to Obama" mentalities of both liberals and Obama himself because not a single one of these attacks when looked at closely, even holds a candle to what happened in Benghazi. And in fact, with one of the attacks listed below, even though it has 371,000 references in Google, we can't find any evidence the attack even happened. All references in Google search seem to be the same list that liberal blogs just blindly copied, passed around and then mindlessly published without checking a single reference. So much for liberal facts!

Liberals also like to point out that either 52 or 54 people were killed (depending on what sources you read), but when looked at these attacks more closely only 1 person who died was an American. That person was U.S. Diplomat David Foy killed in Pakistan in March 2006. All other deaths were either brave embassy guards who were killed in the line of duty defending the safety of embassy employees, or they were innocent bystanders killed in the crossfire or bomb explosions.

We also have the list that somewhat goes with the inaccurate graphic and is posted over at Daily Kos, which I will never link to (but you can find it here) , with the title "If diplomatic attacks are a sign of weakness, Bush was the weakest of all."

In reality this list is weak because everything on it pales in comparison to Benghazi. Yes, real people with families and loved ones died in these attacks, but in no case was there any controversy surrounding them as there is in the Libya attack and in no embassy attack under the Bush Presidency was there any attempt to cover-up what happened or was there blame placed on something that turned out to be patently false. The sheer level to which Obama has gone to hide the facts of this attack is like nothing we have ever seen in the United States of America.

Read below as we destroy both the list and the graphic at the top of this post:

June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan - Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.

Unlike Benghazi, this attack happened outside the walls of the consulate and yes, twelve people were killed and 51 injured, all Pakistanis. I cannot find any reports of Americans amongst the injured. And we aren't sure how this attack matches up with the graphic above because there were 12 people killed, not 10.

February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia - Truck bomb kills 17.

This one is only on the list found at Daily Kos and the link to the list above and we especially love this example because we can't find a single credible reference anywhere in Google that this attack ever happened!

February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan - Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

Two policemen were killed in this shooting outside the consulate and according to CNN, "none of the staff inside the compound at the time were injured in the attack."

July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan - Suicide bomber kills two.

Two Uzbek policemen were killed outside the embassy of both the countries of Israel and the United States. US and Israeli officials said none of their staff were among the casualties.

December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia - Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

This is the only attack on this list and referenced in the graphic where the walls of the embassy were breached and personnel inside were killed, but once again, the graphic and the reference above from The Daily Kos don't match. Four security guards and five staff were killed, none were Americans. By our math, 4 plus 5 equals, 9, not 8 as listed in the graphic and 5 as listed in the reference above.

March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan - Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomat directly targeted by the assailants.

This is the only attack where an American diplomat, not an Ambassador like Christopher Stevens, was actually killed. Tragically, David Foy was specifically targeted outside the embassy when a massive car bomb went off in the parking lot behind the consulate as he arrived for work.

Isn't it interesting that the only embassy attack where an American was killed under Bush and they don't include it in their completely inaccurate graphic above. You would think they would want that one in there.

September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria - Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.

Here we go again, another attack listed where not only were no Americans killed, no Americans were even injured. Yes, sadly one brave Saudi security guard was killed doing his job as militants tried to storm the embassy compound. Once again, the embassy wall were never breached and all American personnel inside remained safe.

January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece - A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.

Another embassy attack that liberals try to point out in some way is equal to what happened in Benghazi, Libya. While this is a serious event that targeted one of our embassies, it took place early in the morning when a grenade was launched into an empty embassy building. Again, no one was killed or injured.

July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey - Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.

Yet another case where embassy security sadly died, but died in the line of duty. Three Turkish National Police officers were killed defending the embassy. All Americans inside remained safe.

March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen - Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls’ school instead.

Though there are reports by liberal websites of 2 being killed at a girl's school near this embassy when mortars were fired at it but missed, the official US Embassy website in Yemen says that there were only injuries.

September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen - Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.

You liberals might what to get your facts straight on this before you post such drivel. How many were killed? The graphic says 10 and the quote above says 11. Actually there weren't 10 people killed, there were 19, six attackers, six Yemeni police, and seven civilians. And guess what, absolutely zero Americans were killed or injured in that attack.

Even though some members of the Yemeni security forces were killed, they did exactly as they were supposed to do, they defended the embassy and saved the personnel inside! And liberals are pointing this out as a sign of weakness? Having security forces do their duty and die during a battle is weakness?

2008 - Rioters set fire to US Embassy in Serbia - (Only listed in graphic above)

Rioters did break into the embassy in this attack and one person was killed, a rioter when they got trapped in a part of one building they had set on fire. All American personnel were safe and accounted for.

There are also 2 more attacks going around the net that liberals are trying to paint as Bush's fault, but once again, neither even remotely holds up to scrutiny as anything even compared to what happened in Benghazi. The first is an attack on what liberals are trying to call the American consulate on January 22, 2002 in Calcutta, India where 5 policemen were killed. In reality it was not the consulate , but an American cultural center that was attacked.

And the final one going around the net is in relation to the bombing of 2 Bali nightclubs on October 12, 2002 when a third much smaller device detonated outside the United States consulate in Denpasar, causing only minor damage.

There you have the graphic and the list, including one attack that never happened, which liberals use to whine and ask why there was no outrage when Bush was president and embassies were attacked. Bush did plenty of things wrong, but he did not lie to all of the country, assisted by a willing press, in order to try and cover up the deaths of 4 Americans.



http://www.isthatbaloney.com/l.....-attacks-under-bush/


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