Quoted from rachel72

Well Loki, it doesn't sound like you agree with B GAGE "better to be safe then sorry." Reading your statements you say that children have imaginations and fabricate 'tales'. Our society is paranoid all in the name of child safety.

Pick a side of the fence Loki and stick to it. Don't just agree with something which contradicts what you initially wrote.

Rachel72, I pretty much ignore your comments these days as reading comprehension is not one of your strong points. Don't take every statement so literally. And just for the record, I am appalled by the knee jerk reactions so common here, yet I do agree also that the children's safety is paramount. You should heed Bumblethru's posts as well. There is much truth there.

Quoted from 3303

Bumblethru, you have nailed it!! We have been taught, irresponsibly I might add, to fear everything. Knee jerk reactions are now the norm. I urge all to exercise on the side of caution re: children, but there may come a day when our community is faced with a tragedy because of a perceived threat brought on by irresponsible media reports and not waiting for the truth to be told.

and don't forget that kids are 'locked in' government public schools with folks who are JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE...

being a teacher who's a pedophile remains as such until caught/convicted...until that time WHO KNOWS...

help me to understand the reasoning behind the lock in....

Some parents and family members are more than questionable as well!

Right, a paranoid society.

Let's go back to the times when football coaches could molest children in private without question...well as long as the team won.

In Rotterdam when some stranger approaches a group of children and that's okay in society.

You've already spoken about the kids and their wild imaginations...why don't you just discredit all they say and let the sex offenders have a safe haven to operate.

You just set back the judicial system back by 50 years.

Quoted from rachel72

Right, a paranoid society.

Let's go back to the times when football coaches could molest children in private without question...well as long as the team won.

In Rotterdam when some stranger approaches a group of children and that's okay in society.

You've already spoken about the kids and their wild imaginations...why don't you just discredit all they say and let the sex offenders have a safe haven to operate.

You just set back the judicial system back by 50 years.

no one is saying it's okay.....the problem is that teaching the next generation that the 'system' will protect them
is an insidious way to screw with a human's flight/fight  instincts......

the problem is that SOCIETY DOESN'T KNOW WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE FOR DEVIANT SEX.....and pre-crime is
freaking UN-AMERICAN.....AND...DANGEROUSLY INHUMAN.....society meats out justice based upon how deviant
the whole of society is....stupid rule #1 can't live/be with in 1000yards of where kids are....how F'EN DUMB

we've already 'safely locked in' the kids in schools...why? to placate society's mind? they have F'EN terrorist drills...

WTF!!! how did those nuclear drills work out in the 50's....JOKE JOKE JOKE.....

big daddy doesn't exist in utopia.....if it did god wouldn't be arguing over some sliver of land the size of Rhode Island

THE REPLACEMENT OF MORALITY AND CONSCIENCE WITH LAW PRODUCES A DEADLY PARADOX....

utopia? hahahahahahahahahahaha

Quoted from senders

no one is saying it's okay.....the problem is that teaching the next generation that the 'system' will protect them
is an insidious way to screw with a human's flight/fight  instincts......

the problem is that SOCIETY DOESN'T KNOW WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE FOR DEVIANT SEX.....and pre-crime is
freaking UN-AMERICAN.....AND...DANGEROUSLY INHUMAN.....society meats out justice based upon how deviant
the whole of society is....stupid rule #1 can't live/be with in 1000yards of where kids are....how F'EN DUMB

we've already 'safely locked in' the kids in schools...why? to placate society's mind? they have F'EN terrorist drills...

WTF!!! how did those nuclear drills work out in the 50's....JOKE JOKE JOKE.....

big daddy doesn't exist in utopia.....if it did god wouldn't be arguing over some sliver of land the size of Rhode Island

Our society is COMPLETELY INEPT when trying to deal with the pre- post-convicted sex offender..you'll get no argument here. It's pathetic how many offenders you'll see at kids festivals and in public places with children centered activities....but again...don't live too close to the pre-k, right?

Therefore, as a parent, I do feel the need to step it up a notch because society has done a piss-poor job at it. Do I want to let the sex offenders know that I'm watching...hell yes because quite frankly, no one else is.

Sex offenders are smarter than children. Let's make sure we know who's the prey here.

sex offenders DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE WATCHING....the issue remains that society building bulwarks that we send our kids
to kind of removes a certain amount of 'care they need to exercise'....there will ALWAYS be 'sex offenders'...but a giant bubble
doesn't remove the DNA from a criminal/sinner/offender or what ever the hell we call them.....

I'd like to know who tracks the numbers of those caught as to those not caught....IT CAN'T HAPPEN....again...society doesn't know
what to do with them after convicted...or even what punishment is just...because even if a sex offender it is called 'justice' and
that comes from both sides of the scale....

even if I killed a sex offender because I thought it 'justice'...the killing would require an equalization effect....

that's why my above statement of let's go kill him was made above....again society has a difficult time meating out justice
because we 'put ourselves in their shoes to a certain degree'....or we don't....

let me see I think to myself, if I were a sex offender how should I be punished?

I then have to figure out what determines the offense?

age? based on what? military age? drinking age? smoking age? driving age? gambling age? etc etc.......

The 'giant bubble' has only strengthened the sex offenders drive towards creativity and forming alliances both in and out of jail.

Prime example, the dozen convicted offenders living next to the new SCCC dorms. Gazetto won't touch the story with a 10 foot pole....nor will the TU and why? Protecting the 'rights' of child rapist.

The college will absolutely deny liability or knowledge of these criminals when an SCCC student is attacked. It will happen. Placing bags of crack next to the reformed addicts always ends the same way. Maybe one will walk away, but there's 11 more that won't.

when I went to pick up my grandson at a local elementary school from kindergarten there were alot of kids on the
playground. I had gotten there about 10 minutes early. So I walked my youngest grandson in his stroller down a path
towards a road when all of a sudden behind me I hear my older grandson call me and there he is with another boy
halfway between the playground and the road. He was so glad to see me and wanted to introduce me to his new
friend so I said hi and smiled. But I realized that NO adult working at the school had noticed they were away from the
playground so I walked them back and told both of them NEVER to leave the playground area.

So yesterday I go to pick him up and just watched. His class was not outside there were others  BUT there were maybe six kids way away
from the playground, one running with a large stick, and no adult nearby again.

So I'm going to put a call into the school principal who I know from working with at another school and tell him of my
concerns.

When I was in elementary school I had teachers who I adored who were just amazing caring teachers and I remember
everyday giving them a hug on the way out of class. When I worked in a local elementary school serving lunches there were a few kids who would run up to me and give me a hug. One girl who always ran to me with a smile and a hug
we found out was being horribly abused and taken out of her home. : (  

My daughter the teacher says they are not to hug their kids, but that kids run up to her and hug her all the time.

It's just natural for kid to want to get a hug and get one back.

It shows the person cares and that they are protected.

BUT then there are the pedophiles. I used to go to a corner store on Guilderland Ave. when I was in first grade. The
owner would pat my head or smile and I thought nothing of it. Until one day I went and he came around the counter
and "grabbed me" and I knew instintively it wasn't right I remember dropping my candy and running home crying
and I remember telling my parents and my Dad's friend who was visiting, well he wanted to go bash the guys head in
but my Mom called the police who talked to the store owner and that was it.  I never went back there but as I got
older always wondered who else : (

Then my neighbor who I've talked about before and it was much worse.  I never told my parents until long after who
were divorced by this time and often wondered why and I think partly because in the first instance the police did
nothing and partly because of the "chaos" in my family at the time I thought no one cared.

We want our kids/grandkids to be happy and carefree, to go to school and have friends and just be kids.

But then we have to worry about the few who can do lifelong damage to a child.

So maybe this guy was just asking the kids if any of those bikes were theirs and maybe it was just an innocent
question.

But whatever parent called the police did the right thing. Because WHAT IF  this guy was just trying to gain their trust
and wasn't such a "nice guy"

I'd much rather read that a person was questioned by police and it turned out to be nothing, than to know that a child will have lifelong scars from abuse.

Quoted from rachel72

Maybe they should have fire cracker evacuation drills for the buses at Schenectady High?

School bus safety drills, including emergency evacuation drills are done several times per year, as required by the state education dept.

Quoted from rpforpres

We want our kids/grandkids to be happy and carefree, to go to school and have friends and just be kids.

But then we have to worry about the few who can do lifelong damage to a child.

So maybe this guy was just asking the kids if any of those bikes were theirs and maybe it was just an innocent
question.

But whatever parent called the police did the right thing. Because WHAT IF  this guy was just trying to gain their trust and wasn't such a "nice guy"

I'd much rather read that a person was questioned by police and it turned out to be nothing, than to know that a child will have lifelong scars from abuse.

The regret of not going with one's basic instincts will haunt forever. As a parent/grandparent we are the caregivers..protectors...but our reach is only so far.

Your dad and his friend should have gone to pay him a visit.   There's a very special place in hell for child molesters - ask Ronny.  This man deserves his place - if he ever laid so much as a finger on you - or any child.

Quoted from 1975

Your dad and his friend should have gone to pay him a visit.   There's a very special place in hell for child molesters - ask Ronny.  This man deserves his place - if he ever laid so much as a finger on you - or any child.

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Birds of a feather flock together....my choice....Jim Beam....what's yours   Slick