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Libertarian4life
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Sure, box will claim it was the gun that acted inappropriately.

3-Year-Old Kills Father & Provides Heartbreaking Gun Safety Reminder
Posted by Julie Ryan Evans
on July 16, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Last week, Michael Payless, 33, sat watching television in his home with two of his children. Then, in a split second, he was dead from the bullet of a gun. Behind the trigger -- his 3-year-old son.

According to police, the boy found a loaded handgun lying nearby, and picked it up, and accidentally discharged it. His father was pronounced dead at the scene.

The story is so heartbreaking on so many levels. For the children who lost their father, and for their mother who lost her husband and will now be faced to raise her children alone. But mostly I ache for this 3-year-old boy. How do you live your life knowing that you shot your own father?

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Sure, he'll be told it was an accident, that it wasn't his fault. But will he ever truly be able to accept that and move on? I hope so. I hope he -- and his entire family -- get the kind of support and counseling they need to deal with such a tragedy.

Perhaps most heartbreaking of all, however, is how easily all of this could have been avoided -- if only a loaded gun hadn't been lying around. There are few details, and it's not clear whose gun it was or why it was in the home, but I can't think of any explanation that would justify it.

Nothing can undo this tragedy now, but others can learn from it. I'm not someone who seeks to ban guns, but with the right to bear arms comes the incredible responsibility to treat them with the utmost care, and never ever put them anywhere a child could potentially get a hold of them. Ever.

http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/140438/3yearold_kills_father_provides_heartbreaking
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Currently when applying for a concealed weapon license, they encourage the applicant to get the spouse to be one of the character references for the applicant, since the spouse will have to share the home with the applicant.

I think that this is a good policy.

I'm sure the NRA disagrees, and would never exist, if all the members needed permission from their wives to buy a gun.

I'll name this policy: The Family That Buys Together, May Die Together policy.
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My kids left a plastic toy on the stairs that nearly killed me.  I didn't call my Congressman to propose a law banning lego's.


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My kids left a plastic toy on the stairs that nearly killed me.  I didn't call my Congressman to propose a law banning lego's.


Clearly stairs are the items that should be banned.

Wait about an hour and box will produce a chart of how many accidents are caused by stairs.

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Clearly stairs are the items that should be banned.

Wait about an hour and box will produce a chart of how many accidents are caused by stairs.



Ranch style homes should be the only homes approved by the state.  Two story buildings should be banned.


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Ranch style homes should be the only homes approved by the state.  Two story buildings should be banned.


Actually, now that I have researched it:

Top 10 Most Common Causes of Home Accidents in the US

Home accidents are the cause of millions of injuries every year around the world. In America alone home injuries affect approximately between 5 to 10 million people each year. Some of these injuries may be funny and find their way to the all-famous America’s Funniest Videos but seriously and in reality many of them happen to be very serious and often fatal.
Top 10 causes of home injuries list below have been gathered from the US Consumer Product Safety Commission and National Electronics Injuries Surveillance System (NESS)

causes of home accidents

1- Ladders and stools
Falling and tripping accidents cause injuries to an estimate of 227,769 people.

2- Clothing
Children get tangle and chocked in their own cloths, which causes injuries to an estimate of 245,129 people.

3- cans and other containers
Sharp cans and shattering containers accidents cause injuries to an estimate of 248,126 people.

4- Desks, cabinets, shelves and racks
Falling over, cabinets knocked over and racks dropping on people causes injuries to an estimate of 262,171 people.

5- Tables
Falling off of tables, tables breaking causes injuries to an estimate of 309,252 people.

6- Non-glass doors and panel accidents
Many accidentally slam doors on their own or other peoples hands and heads causing injuries to an estimate of 321,665 people.

7- Bathroom structures and fixtures
Slipping, falling and hitting our heads and back around in the bathroom is a very common home accident, causing injuries to an estimate of 330,102 people.

8- Chairs, sofas and sofa bed accidents
People routinely and repeatedly fall of their chairs and sofas, causing injuries to an estimate of 476,109 people.

9- Beds, Mattresses, Pillows
Falling off of beds and materials and pillow cause neck and back problems injuries to an estimate of 560,129 people.

10- Stairs, ramps, landings and floor accidents
Most common home accidents happened when walking up or down the stairs. Broken hands and legs are the usually resulting injuries to an estimate of 2,324,938 people.

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ban stairs altogether. make people crawl about with a protective suit so we can be perfectly safe


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Sure, box will claim it was the gun that acted inappropriately.



Sure, box will claim it was the gun that acted inappropriately.

Another post where the opening line is what 'Box' will think?  
Are these members of the board so shallow that the main theme of their post is what some other poster
will 'claim'?

Strange!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Sure, box will claim it was the gun that acted inappropriately.

Another post where the opening line is what 'Box' will think?  
Are these members of the board so shallow that the main theme of their post is what some other poster
will 'claim'?

Strange!


I would have never said that.  I mean really.  The truth is right there in the story.  The ban that is needed?  3 year olds.  All children should be required to be born at the age of 16, and be given a drivers license instead of a birth certificate.  It's obvious that birth certificates are overrated anyways.

This guy should obviously be receiving, posthumously, a Darwin Award for leaving his gun sitting around, fully loaded and unlocked, where a 3 year old could play with it, and the son should receive a letter of recongition from the Awards committee for doing what the father was even too stupid to follow through on himself.  Also, think of how much tax money would be saved over the years of not paying for all the benefits that this guy would mooch off the system.


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In 2008 88 kids were killed in the USA under age 5 by guns.
In 2009 it was 85.

5,740 Children and Teens were Killed by Guns in 2008 and 2009.
The subject of this thread, where kids, even toddlers have access to guns is not unusual in the USA
and is part of the price we pay for our "2nd amendment mentality".  Anyone who'd allow a 5 year old
access to guns should be locked up as a danger to society.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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