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Libertarian4life
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They will throw me in a cage if I don't pay taxes.  The only real option I have is not consenting and my 1st amendment right while it lasts.


Not paying taxes would be a stronger message than not voting.

Paying taxes, albeit under duress, is still collaboration.

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THE GOVERNMENT SAID THAT?  Some official or law enforcement officer is NOT the GOVERNMENT.  

Threats in some instances do constitute a crime.  Did these FB statements constitute a crime? I don't know.
Do you?
Were there other actions that led the police to this person other than his FB page?  I don't know.
Do you?
Are the police contemplating charging him with a crime pending the outcome of his psych evaluation?
I don't know. Do you?

The one thing missing from this story is the F A C T S.  But lack of facts don't seem to be a problem for
a good conspiracy story!



THE GOVERNMENT PASSES THE LAWS TO GIVE THEM THE POWER....

hi,,,I'm from the government and I'm here to help you.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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besides,,,,it's either this story or

ban guns....or

ban abortion..or

ban speech or at least make it look like you're getting help


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Paying taxes, albeit under duress, is still collaboration.


Oh, so black slaves supported slavery and women that say no when getting raped really mean yes.


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I'll wait for the facts.  As of today... he hasn't been charged with a crime... and if he is mentally ill, he probably
won't be.  
If all that is involved is a few FB posts, and none are illegal threats, then this board may have gotten it right.
If there is more to the story than is known today... and crimes have been committed, then the board is wrong.
If his psych evaluation shows that he is a danger to himself or to society, then I appreciate that he was taken
into custody BEFORE he did harm to himself or others.

Either way... Before I decide what is or is not... I need to have the FACTS.  As of today... this story is long on
rhetoric and short on facts.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Either way... Before I decide what is or is not... I need to have the FACTS.  As of today... this story is long on rhetoric and short on facts.


Everybody wants the FACTS.  They haven't been released.  Where is the documentation of the medical evaluation that justified the 30 day detainment?  Law enforcement detaining people based on arbitrary and very subjective psychological evaluations is scarier than being detained on false charges.  They are questioning a man's sanity based on facebook posts.


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Everybody wants the FACTS.  They haven't been released.  Where is the documentation of the medical evaluation that justified the 30 day detainment?  Law enforcement detaining people based on arbitrary and very subjective psychological evaluations is scarier than being detained on false charges.  They are questioning a man's sanity based on facebook posts.


" They are questioning a man's sanity based on facebook posts". NOPE!
They detained a man based on his FB posts ( and possibly other information) but his sanity is determined
separate from any criminal investigation.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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What if the only thing the guy is guilty of is speaking his mind, does that warrant being locked up in a psych ward for 30 days.
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What if the only thing the guy is guilty of is speaking his mind, does that warrant being locked up in a psych ward for 30 days.

Nope.
Not in my opinion.

Sometimes speaking your mind IS illegal.  The "I WILL KILL YOU" phrase, can be a legitimate threat and
be illegal.  
When we know the FACTS of this case, we might be able to make an informed opinion on the case.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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In today's environment the government seems to bury the facts from the public, case in point Fast and Furious.
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When we know the FACTS of this case, we might be able to make an informed opinion on the case.


...and as long as the "authorities" keep everybody in the dark and transport him 3 hours away from his family and attorney, we will wait patiently until the government decides to fully disclose why he has been detained.  Until then, we should thank the government for taking away 30 days of this Americans life in the name of protecting us from him.


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...and as long as the "authorities" keep everybody in the dark and transport him 3 hours away from his family and attorney, we will wait patiently until the government decides to fully disclose why he has been detained.  Until then, we should thank the government for taking away 30 days of this Americans life in the name of protecting us from him.


Cic is still angry that the SEALS didn't read Osama Bin Laden his rights before they shot him.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Cic is still angry that the SEALS didn't read Osama Bin Laden his rights before they shot him.  


Did you just compare this guy to Osama Bin Laden?  WOW!  I guess if they dump his body off the back of a navy ship into the ocean in the dark of night, you'll eat that one hook, line, and sinker too.  Probably thanking them for protecting you from him.


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Oh, so black slaves supported slavery and women that say no when getting raped really mean yes.


Are you claiming to be a slave?



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