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Neither are mental illness's : (  As this was in the Gazette which I no longer buy hope someone out there will do a "correction" letter.


Autism sure is a mental disorder, I don't know how you came to the conclusion that it isn't





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Autism sure is a mental disorder, I don't know how you came to the conclusion that it isn't


Autism is a neurological disorder.  Things like anxiety, depression, and post traumatic stress syndrome are mental illness.  

Actually knowing is probably how rpforpres came up with the correct conclusion.


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mental illness is just something we can't explain about SOMEONE else's mind....

depression follows strokes....

mental illness?

anxiety follows strokes...

mental illness?

depression follows cardiac bypass...

mental illness?

ADD/ADHD....true mental illness or just something society has failed to recognize as normal human beings...unable to
fit into the FU(KING MOLDS THAT SOCIETY MAKES....

not everyone is geared toward college
not everyone is capable of driving maintaining a car
not everyone is geared to sitting at some dumba$$ desk in a state building like a rat in a cage
not everyone is made to be whatever the 'newest' job market is because of the finicky populace...ooooooh,,,we're so
F'en civilized that we give drugs just to make sure all the blocks fit....

projection from a group of 'experts' about brain/thought etc....is the 'atleast' result we get...

college kids using Adderall just to get through their classes....HOW F'EN SAD IS THAT....the experts call that WHAT?
anyone? anyone?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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CAPITAL REGION
Gun control is good business for dealers
Shootings spark more debate, purchases
BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

    Every time gun control becomes a topic of public conversation, Les McDermott seems to see a spike in sales at the Veterans Gun Depot in Troy.
    Such was the case following a mass shooting in a Colorado theater last month, which left 12 dead and touched off a national discussion about laws regulating guns. McDermott estimates he’s seen an uptick in sales of roughly 15 percent in the immediate aftermath — a pattern that closely mimics what he saw after the January 2011 shooting that killed six in Tuscon, Ariz.
    “Anytime there’s an incident like that, there’s a spike,” he said Tuesday. “It’s defi nitely noticeable.”
    And the spike is across the board for just about any gun-related product at McDermott’s store, whether it’s guns or ammunition. The overriding factor for most of his customers seems to be a sense of uncertainty over whether they’ll be able to continue buying such products unfettered by stricter state or federal gun legislation.
    “Everybody is concerned about more gun legislation,” he said.
    New York’s delegation to the U.S. Senate did propose an amendment to the Cybersecurity Act that would restrict the purchase of high-capacity gun magazines, such as the one used in the shooting in Colorado. U.S. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., the amendment’s sponsor, said the legislation offers reasonable measures to control guns and that its proponents should make clear that it’s intended to save lives, not curtail Second Amendment freedoms.
    “I think it would be very important for those of us who are for gun control — some rational laws on guns — to make it clear once and for all that’s not our goal,” he said from the Senate floor last week, “to make it clear that the belief is that the Second Amendment does matter, that there is a right to bear arms ... and if you’re an average normal American citizen, you have the right to bear arms.”
    On Monday, U.S. Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg, D-N.J., and U.S. Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-Long Island, announced legislation that would prohibit purchasing unlimited quantities of ammunition through the Internet or by mail order and require that dealers report any bulk sales of ammunition to law enforcement agencies. The proposed law was spurred by reports that the Colorado shooter purchased thousands of rounds of ammunition online in the months leading up to the massacre.
    “It’s one thing to buy a pair of shoes online, but it should take more than a click of the mouse to amass thousands of rounds of ammunition,” Lautenberg said.
    Both pieces of legislation have drawn swift rebuke from conservative think tanks and Second Amendment advocates. Some argue that such legislation will lead to an erosion of Second Amendment rights.
    Of course, New York is already among the states with the strictest gun laws. These include strenuous background checks for anyone receiving a pistol permit and an outright ban on large capacity ammunition feeding devices that can load more than 10 rounds of ammunition into a gun at one time.
    Other gun store owners say the recent discussion over gun control hasn’t changed much in the way of sales. Some say their business has been robust since President Barack Obama took office because the perception is he’ll back gun control legislation. .......................>>>>.....................>>>>....................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00103&AppName=1
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Teenager kills 8 wounds 5, difference is he used a knife. More proof nutcases will use or do anything to commit acts of violence no matter what laws or regulations are on the books.


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A teenager has been arrested after killing eight people and wounding five others in a knife attack in northeast China, state media reported Thursday.

The 17-year-old, which was identified only by his surname Li, barged into the home of his girlfriend armed with a knife following an argument and killed two relatives of the girl, the Legal Daily said.

As he left his girlfriend's home in Liaoning province's Xinbin county, he stabbed six more people to death and wounded five, it said.

He was arrested at the scene of the attack, late on Wednesday night, and was taken into custody, the official Xinhua news agency reported.

No other details were immediately available. Calls made to local authorities and police in Xinbin county went unanswered.

Violent crime has been on the rise in China in recent decades as the nation's economy has boomed and the gap between rich and poor has expanded at an alarming rate.

Experts say the increase in assaults shows that China is paying the price for focusing on more than 30 years of economic growth while ignoring problems linked to rapid social change.

Studies have described a rise in the prevalence of mental disorders in China, some of them linked to stress as the pace of life becomes faster and socialist support systems wither.

However, authorities stress that murder, which carries the death penalty, remains far less common than in most Western countries.


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Teenager kills 8 wounds 5, difference is he used a knife. More proof nutcases will use or do anything to commit acts of violence no matter what laws or regulations are on the books.


Kills 8, wounds 5!!!  Just think,  if this teenager were born in America, instead of having the misfortune to
be born in China... he could have exercised his 2nd amendment RIGHT and been much more successful...
He could have killed 25 and wounded 50 if he only were an American.  

More Proof that anyone can do better in the good ole US of A!


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Kills 8, wounds 5!!!  Just think,  if this teenager were born in America, instead of having the misfortune to
be born in China... he could have exercised his 2nd amendment RIGHT and been much more successful...
He could have killed 25 and wounded 50 if he only were an American.  

More Proof that anyone can do better in the good ole US of A!


China's laws did nothing to help these victims from a man determined to cause damage, 8 people died but to you I guess this is a success because the death toll wasn't higher



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China's laws did nothing to help these victims from a man determined to cause damage, 8 people died but to you I guess this is a success because the death toll wasn't higher


I just pointed out that because of strict gun laws in China, the killer was limited to a much smaller number
killed than if he were a gun totin' American.  
Gun laws in this case, might have kept the death toll to a much smaller number.

China ~ 8 dead 5 wounded
Columbine ~  13 killed 21 wounded
Virginia tech ~ 32 killed 17 wounded
Aurora ~  12 killed 28 wounded


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Maybe next time he will use a bomb in a crowded location and up the kill.
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Maybe next time he will use a bomb in a crowded location and up the kill.


He could have used a bomb this time... but he didn't.  Much like the latest Aurora shooter... he opted for the
American tradition of mass murder by gun.


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They are being sent to Mexico compliments of our ATF and Federal Government.
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They are being sent to Mexico compliments of our ATF and Federal Government.


That may also have been true... but this video concerns private scum bag American arms dealers, selling
guns that promote a drug war.


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That may also have been true... but this video concerns private scum bag American arms dealers, selling
guns that promote a drug war.


The only thing promoting the drug war is the drug war itself, it is the prohibition laws which created the foundation for these cartels to build on and the Mexican government is also cashing in on it. When California had the vote to legalize medical marijuana guess who was strongly opposed to it, the Mexican president. Now why would the Mexican president be against a bill that would allow pot users in America to be able to grow their own plants and buy from American growers, which in turn would take money from the cartels they say they're fighting against



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