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Rusty Shackleford
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Quoted from BuckStrider

Winter is coming and it's not even going to be close.


Really Buck??? Is that a prediction?  Are you that confident that the Mitt will win???

I seriously doubt it.

My guess, and it's only a guess...
With no bombshell disaster against Obama between now and November... Obama wins by 8%.
With a minor bombshell or scandal... Obama wins by 2%
and
with a total Obama Disaster... a toss up.

Just a guess, compared to your "Not even going to be close".


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Analysis of election factors points to Romney win, University of Colorado study says
August 22, 2012 •
A University of Colorado analysis of state-by-state factors leading to the Electoral College selection of every U.S. president since 1980 forecasts that the 2012 winner will be Mitt Romney.

The key is the economy, say political science professors Kenneth Bickers of CU-Boulder and Michael Berry of CU Denver. Their prediction model stresses economic data from the 50 states and the District of Columbia, including both state and national unemployment figures as well as changes in real per capita income, among other factors.

“Based on our forecasting model, it becomes clear that the president is in electoral trouble,” said Bickers, also director of the CU in DC Internship Program.

According to their analysis, President Barack Obama will win 218 votes in the Electoral College, short of the 270 he needs. And though they chiefly focus on the Electoral College, the political scientists predict Romney will win 52.9 percent of the popular vote to Obama’s 47.1 percent, when considering only the two major political parties.

“For the last eight presidential elections, this model has correctly predicted the winner,” said Berry. “The economy has seen some improvement since President Obama took office. What remains to be seen is whether voters will consider the economy in relative or absolute terms. If it’s the former, the president may receive credit for the economy’s trajectory and win a second term. In the latter case, Romney should pick up a number of states Obama won in 2008.”

Their model correctly predicted all elections since 1980, including two years when independent candidates ran strongly, 1980 and 1992. It also correctly predicted the outcome in 2000, when Al Gore received the most popular vote but George W. Bush won the election.   http://www.colorado.edu/news/r.....-colorado-study-says
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Poor Rusty... he really wishes that those 25 million female fetuses had been born since '73...
Just think of all those unwanted babies... born to crack whores, and welfare queens... all of em
on welfare.  All of em wanting handouts and all those 25 million dads stuck paying child support,
all the unwanted teenage girls who's moms wish that the kids had never been born... all of them
having babies and their babies reproducing at the age of 15, 16 and 17, by now each of those
unwanted teens would be grandmothers or great grandmothers... and their kids multiplying like
bunnies with no abortion available and the GOP shutting down PP and their birth control...

Is that REALLY what you want Rusty???  Adding those 75 or 85 million unwanted female babies???


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And what % of those were 'black minority'?

Let's go with a conservative number and say...oh I dunno....70%

Working as intended.


But then again...In 2012...This isn't the real issue at all.

Obama wants us to be sh*t like all the Euro nations are so we are all 'equal'





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Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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And what % of those were 'black minority'?
Let's go with a conservative number and say...oh I dunno....70%
Working as intended.
But then again...In 2012...This isn't the real issue at all.
Obama wants us to be sh*t like all the Euro nations are so we are all 'equal'


Really Buck? Does that fit your 'racial profile'?  
The largest group of women are non Hispanic white women, but that figure doesn't fit your agenda.
Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions,
non-Hispanic black women for 30%,
Hispanic women for 25%
and women of other races for 9%

You sound very worried about the increase of how did you put it??? Oh yea... 'black minority'.
The fact that whites will be a minority in the USA in the next 15-20 years scares the crap out of quite
a few Conservatives.  

Why not let all the babies in the USA be born to parents who WANT them and are willing to care for them
and educate them... why force a child on an unwilling mom and ruin both their lives.  Why not opt for
"freedom of choice".


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Poor Rusty... he really wishes that those 25 million female fetuses had been born since '73...
Just think of all those unwanted babies

Is that REALLY what you want Rusty???  Adding those 75 or 85 million unwanted female babies???


Well, before you said it was just a "clump of cells" and now you're admitting that they're "unwanted" human babies - so I guess my work here is done.  Yes, the 25 million (not the 75-85 million you quote) - I wish they were born.
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Well, before you said it was just a "clump of cells" and now you're admitting that they're "unwanted" human babies - so I guess my work here is done.  Yes, the 25 million (not the 75-85 million you quote) - I wish they were born.


Your 25 million fetuses if not aborted would today equal (my guess) 75 to 85 million new unwanted babies.
You WANT these 80 million female babies... but YOU DON"T WANT TO PAY FOR THEM.  You want others
to pay for your lack of family planning and abortion.

Conservatives LOVE a fetus... but totally abandon that fetus once it's born... and even condemn the mom
who now has to raise it.
The situation is this:
Abort those 25 million clumps of cells
or
Pay for the 80million new female babies... who are now also having babies.


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Roe vs. Wade has spawned more slaughter than all 20th-century tyrants combined. The consequences of this slaughter are vast lost generations of human beings who were denied by the law the right to live. The economic consequences from which we all suffer today – entitlements too costly to afford and too few wage earners to pay for them – are directly attributable to the absence of population growth.


I am not arguing in favor of entitlements. The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to provide them. But when FDR and LBJ concocted their entitlement schemes in order to build permanent dependence on the Democratic Party, they understood population growth. Their understanding, too, was slaughtered by abortion. A society that prefers death to life not only cannot prosper; it cannot survive. Soon 40 percent of federal tax revenues will be dedicated to interest on the federal debt, and most of that borrowing has been to pay for entitlements. We are headed for a cliff.

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"The economic consequences from which we all suffer today – entitlements too costly to afford and
too few wage earners to pay for them
– are directly attributable to the absence of population growth."
Andrew P. Napolitano

A typical Conservative with typical backward thinking.
There aren't enough jobs... and there is a huge entitlements problem.  Napolitano's solution is:
1. To add more people to the entitlements (welfare moms adding more babies)
and
2. to add more people to the unemployment line.

Sounds like a great plan!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Quoted from Box A Rox
"The economic consequences from which we all suffer today – entitlements too costly to afford and
too few wage earners to pay for them
– are directly attributable to the absence of population growth."
Andrew P. Napolitano

A typical Conservative with typical backward thinking.
There aren't enough jobs... and there is a huge entitlements problem.  Napolitano's solution is:
1. To add more people to the entitlements (welfare moms adding more babies)
and
2. to add more people to the unemployment line.

Sounds like a great plan!



Nah...Typical liberal thinking...Humans are not productive assets; they are liabilities and a drain on his precious society.  He hasn't yet grasped the concept that human beings are the customers for which an economy serves.  

There aren't enough jobs?  Jobs are not finite resources.  If you have more people, you would need more food, clothing, and shelter, you have more productivity, which creates more jobs.  

The reason there are no jobs is because we are $16 trillion in debt with trillions more in unfunded liabilities in entitlements for the retiring boomer geration, and not enough people to pay for them.  American capital is already allocated to pay future debt for decades to come.  A shrinking population just means more money per person to pay for the entitlements being collected by the prior generation.  Or another option is to default because the current generation doesn't think they should be obligated to pay for entitlement that were passed into law before they were even born.  That is truly ' taxation without representation'.  I shouldn't have to pay for the sins of my fathers Congress.


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"Vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan on rape:

"Rape is just another “method of conception”
and not an excuse to allow abortions."



“In this case, when Ryan says ‘the method of conception’ is irrelevant, he’s talking about rape,”
Benen wrote. “In other words, the Republicans’ vice presidential nominee clearly believes the
government should force women to take their pregnancy to term if they are impregnated by a rapist.”

“Republicans can only distance themselves so much from Todd Akin before we realize they
share his views.”


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This abortion issue is getting demagogued like usual and the media are compliant in it.  

The fact is, when you craft legislation for abortion that makes an acceptation for rape, you have to be very specific in the wording to what constitutes legal rape.  It is that simple.  Just like when one person takes another person's life, it isn't automatically murder 1.  Is statutory rape, violent forced rape, incest and date rape all the same in the eyes of the law?    

Can Obama keep the war on women narrative going until November?  Will all the unemployed Americans and young adults trying to join the workforce with no available jobs care about this issue.  Only time will tell.


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*Yawns*

“I’m very proud of my pro-life record, and I’ve always adopted the idea that, the position that the method of conception doesn’t change the definition of life,” Ryan explained.

Use the whole quote instead of your DailyKOS/Crooks and Liars paraphrasing




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Ryan’s position is that all pregnant rape survivors should be treated the same — the government should force
them to carry their rapist’s baby to term.


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