WTF? Where are the charges for Murder 1? Premeditated murder. The guy thought it was a home invasion. ThePolice went there with guns and did not identify themselves. So in essence they were posing as non-law enforcement officers.
Try them.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
I believe the shooting took place at 1:30 at night, I know if someone was banging on my door at that time I would be armed also. There need to be charges filed and it should be murder for everyone involved in that raid, the fact that they never identified themselves should seal the deal.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
I believe the shooting took place at 1:30 at night, I know if someone was banging on my door at that time I would be armed also. There need to be charges filed and it should be murder for everyone involved in that raid, the fact that they never identified themselves should seal the deal.
1:30am or not, how it can be murder when the resident was carrying a loaded gun? Did the resident ask, who are you? If he was concerned about his safety, why did he answer the door in the first place? don't tell me the resident was confused because of the time... he was alert enough to grab his gun. If it was the other way around, I would expect the resident not to be charged with killing the cop because it was self-defense.
Discipline for the officers? sure Charges? manslaughter at the most. Murder? forget it
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
1:30am or not, how it can be murder when the resident was carrying a loaded gun? Did the resident ask, who are you? If he was concerned about his safety, why did he answer the door in the first place? don't tell me the resident was confused because of the time... he was alert enough to grab his gun. If it was the other way around, I would expect the resident not to be charged with killing the cop because it was self-defense.
Discipline for the officers? sure Charges? manslaughter at the most. Murder? forget it
If I shot a cop for no reason would it not be murder because he to carries a loaded gun?
Did the resident ask who was there, who knows and it makes no difference anyhow in this case.
He grabbed his gun because he was concerned, that doesn't mean he was planning on using it if there was no threat.
Nor should you, the home owner never asked for this to happen, it was the cops fault to begin with.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
If I shot a cop for no reason would it not be murder because he to carries a loaded gun? The cop is authorized to carry a gun, was the resident? This is another example of why guns as a home defense tool don't work
Did the resident ask who was there, who knows and it makes no difference anyhow in this case. Yeah, it does...Because if he had, he probably would have put down the gun and would still be alive. Anyone opening the door with a loaded gun AT ANY TIME in a residential neighborhood is violating the law
He grabbed his gun because he was concerned, that doesn't mean he was planning on using it if there was no threat. Despite the mistakes in protocol, the cops didn't know that. Another glaring reason guns are a horrible home defense tool. If he had used a bat or a crowbar instead, odds are he'd be breathing right now
Nor should you, the home owner never asked for this to happen, it was the cops fault to begin with. I'm not saying mistakes weren't made and the cops should be charged with something, but murder is ludicrous
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
If I shot a cop for no reason would it not be murder because he to carries a loaded gun? Did the resident ask who was there, who knows and it makes no difference anyhow in this case. He grabbed his gun because he was concerned, that doesn't mean he was planning on using it if there was no threat. Nor should you, the home owner never asked for this to happen, it was the cops fault to begin with.
I think the charge of MURDER often hinges on INTENT.
I remember an incident in our area where a State Trooper stopped a car at night, in the winter on the NY Thruway. The driver opened the car door and approached the trooper with a snow scraper in his hand. The Trooper thought it was a gun and so shot and killed the man.
The troopers motives were self defense, not murder, and was not charged for the killing.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Nah even if you're holding a golf club you will be gunned down
I would add that guns are a great home defense tool, many people wouldn't be alive today if it weren't for a home defense gun
"Anyone opening the door with a loaded gun AT ANY TIME in a residential neighborhood is violating the law"
This is not true, the man was in his doorway inside his house, he has every right to have a loaded gun inside his house. If he had a permit he would have every right to carry a loaded firearm outside his property on his persons.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
"Anyone opening the door with a loaded gun AT ANY TIME in a residential neighborhood is violating the law"
This is not true, the man was in his doorway inside his house, he has every right to have a loaded gun inside his house. If he had a permit he would have every right to carry a loaded firearm outside his property on his persons.
And never fire a warning shot or try to wound, shoot until the person is immobilized and no longer a threat. That is what our peace officers are taught.
The 2002 edition of Injury Facts from the National Safety Council reports the following statistics :
In 1999, 3,385 children and youth ages 0-19 years were killed with a gun. This includes homicides, suicides, and unintentional injuries. This is equivalent to about 9 deaths per day, a figure commonly used by journalists. The 3,385 firearms-related deaths for age group 0-19 years breaks down to: ~214 unintentional ~1,078 suicides ~1,990 homicides ~83 for which the intent could not be determined ~20 due to legal intervention Of the total firearms-related deaths: ~73 were of children under five years old ~416 were children 5-14 years old ~2,896 were 15-19 years old
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
And never fire a warning shot or try to wound, shoot until the person is immobilized and no longer a threat. That is what our peace officers are taught.
I would tell anyone who takes home defense seriously to do the same thing, difference is police have non lethal weapons at their disposal which citizens can't legally own in states like NY.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
I would tell anyone who takes home defense seriously to do the same thing, difference is police have non lethal weapons at their disposal which citizens can't legally own in states like NY.
sure we do...fists/feet/knives/pipes/hammers/nail guns etc etc.....
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