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then don't go to the f'en church if you are a homosexual....would you go to a strip club if you found it offensive?

the 'church' doesn't think it's right? SO WHAT!!!!! don't join,,,,leave.....there is something one could exercise in accordance with
church belief....

F'EN FREE WILL....FREE WILL TO LEAVE.....

I am not defending the church, and I could really care less if one is gay or not.....but it's a belief of a church...

TAKE IT UP WITH GOD WHEN YOU DIE(if that's what you believe happens)....the church is not to make heaven on earth so
everyone can continue in their so-called sin---


JESUS DID SAY THIS:
6 “I have revealed you[a] to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. 7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by[c] that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.

13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 [b]They are not of the world, even as I am not of it.
17 Sanctify them by[d] the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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And really, why do you care anyway. By your logic, we are nothing more than a random occurance of chemicals. If that is the case, then everything you do is meaningless, ...


Everything is meaningless.

3,000 quintillion living organisms on Earth. Less than .000005% of all life on Earth even understands the word meaning.

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then don't go to the f'en church if you are a homosexual....would you go to a strip club if you found it offensive?

the 'church' doesn't think it's right? SO WHAT!!!!! don't join,,,,leave.....there is something one could exercise in accordance with
church belief....

F'EN FREE WILL....FREE WILL TO LEAVE.....

I am not defending the church, and I could really care less if one is gay or not.....but it's a belief of a church...

TAKE IT UP WITH GOD WHEN YOU DIE(if that's what you believe happens)....the church is not to make heaven on earth so
everyone can continue in their so-called sin---


JESUS DID SAY THIS:
6 “I have revealed you[a] to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. 7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by[c] that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.

13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 [b]They are not of the world, even as I am not of it.
17 Sanctify them by[d] the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.


Did Jesus say that? Pretty hard to say since the bible was written hundreds of years after his death. Anyways, to each their own.
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Did Jesus say that? Pretty hard to say since the bible was written hundreds of years after his death. Anyways, to each their own.


according to the church those folks go to, and their beliefs....YES....jesus said that....

"you are IN the world not OF it"

so depending upon one's 'dreams' of what not being OF the world means, it could either mean

-- the church is 'evil' and OF this world and you are here to save it because you are IN world and not OF it:

OR

--the church is IN the world and you are 'evil' and OF this world

so really it's a fight of who is evil and who is not...but in either case why would a person stay in a church they
don't believe is right/true?

it's like banging your head against a brick wall and getting the same results over and over and over...INSANE

again: I'm not defending either party...just peeling the onion


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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