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Episcopal Church Approves Gay Couples' Same-Sex Blessings
Posted: 07/10/2012 8:03 pm Updated: 07/10/2012 11:43 pm

Sixteen years after first allowing gays and lesbians to become priests and nine years after electing its first gay bishop, the Episcopal Church on Tuesday became the largest Christian denomination in the U.S. to offer religious blessings to same-sex couples.

The monumental decision, approved by a thick margin at the church's triennial General Convention in Indianapolis, means that priests in the 1.9 million-member church can officiate blessings to same-sex couples who are in long-term relationships beginning in December............................>>>>.........................>>>>.................http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....sings_n_1663291.html
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Christian Gay Marriages!  
Q.  I wonder what Jesus has to say about "Gay Marriages"???
A.  ... NOTHING!



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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Christian Gay Marriages!  
Q.  I wonder what Jesus has to say about "Gay Marriages"???
A.  ... NOTHING!



Your right Boxy!....Because there were no 'Gay Marriages'. Marriages were between a man and a woman.

Since Jesus was a Jew. The Law of Moses specificly condemns homosexuality. Jesus followed the Law of Moses





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Boxy will tell ya that Jesus was a racist bigot....no?
Man knows what is better for it's creation.


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Your right Boxy!....Because there were no 'Gay Marriages'. Marriages were between a man and a woman.

Since Jesus was a Jew. The Law of Moses specificly condemns homosexuality. Jesus followed the Law of Moses



The law of Moses that was in place when Jesus was born, condemns homosexuality... but Jesus
differed often with that law.
  A woman being stoned to death for adultery (in accordance with the law) was forgiven by Jesus and
told to go and sin no more.  Jesus ignored the Law of Moses.

What did Jesus have to say "condemning homosexuality???
Nothing.  Nothing at all.


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Well logic would tell us (Box is uneducated and has none) that if he did not specifically differ from the Old Testament Law then he was supportive of it. Where the Old Covenant was discarded, Jesus brought about the New Covenant, however he did not throw thousands of years of teaching down the toilet in one fell swoop, nor did he say that "adultery is fine" when he taught to "forgive" that sin. Because the logic of forgiveness dictates that in order to forgive, there must first have been an offense to forgive.

So no, sorry, liberals. Jesus did not teach "Let it all hang out and do what you want."

I personally could not care a fig about gay marriage, but to come here and try to say that Jesus approved is a blatant leftist lie, spoken by an avowed Marxist saboteur.


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Well logic would tell us (Box is uneducated and has none) that if he did not specifically differ from the Old Testament Law then he was supportive of it. Where the Old Covenant was discarded, Jesus brought about the New Covenant, however he did not throw thousands of years of teaching down the toilet in one fell swoop, nor did he say that "adultery is fine" when he taught to "forgive" that sin. Because the logic of forgiveness dictates that in order to forgive, there must first have been an offense to forgive.


Right!  Jesus didn't say that adultery was acceptable, he just forgave the sinner.

But Jesus never said anything condemning homosexuality... nor did he say anything supporting the old
laws against it.  On the subject of homosexuality... Jesus didn't condemn or condone... he appears
to have remained neutral.

Jesus did follow the law of Moses... the  law that says:
~If a man marries a woman and she is not a virgin, the man can have her stoned to death.
Deuteronomy 22:13-21
Not a lot of stoning of virgins today is there Graham.  Just like with religious laws on homosexuality,
old archaic laws change.


~Leviticus 19:27 Ye shall not make a round cutting of the hair of your head, nor disfigure your beard.
~Leviticus 21:5 And ye shall not shave your head for the dead with a baldness on the top; and they
shall not shave their beard
Glad that you quoted the "law of Moses" Graham... I hope you don't get haircuts or (gasp) shave your
beard!  Just like with religious laws on homosexuality, old archaic laws change.


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Yeah, he was 'neutral.' Jesus was 'neutral' on a lot of things. Only in the twisted world of a Marxist revisionary. In the context of today, it is not surprising that a madman would think that no one gave a notice to gay lifestyles then!


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For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” (John 5:46-47.)



Kthxbai




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Kthxbai


obviously Jesus would change his views to stay popular with the press and the atheist intellectuals who run the media and government. Don't you realize that? He would have hated to lose market share.


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For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” (John 5:46-47.)


Wow Buck.  I didn't take you for a bible beater.  Since you seem so intent in "living the word of Moses" as
set forth in the Old Testament, I wonder if you could comment on how you manage these Old Testament
laws in modern times:

~"Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material," Lev. 19:19;
Kind of limits your cotton synthetic blends doesn't it Buck.

~"Make tassels on the four corners of the cloak you wear," Deut. 22:12).1
Don't tell me Buck... YOU DON'T HAVE TASSELS DO YOU???  Damn blasphemer!

~"The pig is also unclean; although it has a split hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat
their meat or touch their carcasses," Deut. 14:.
Buck can't eat pork chops, pork ribs, pork roasts, ham, or even TOUCH any pigskin... Football?

It seems that Christians like Buck,  adhere to some laws and ignore others? Which ones are valid and
which are not?
It would seem that some  Christians decide which Old Testament laws apply to them,
based on their politics... not their religion.





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Wow Buck.  I didn't take you for a bible beater.  Since you seem so intent in "living the word of Moses" as
set forth in the Old Testament, I wonder if you could comment on how you manage these Old Testament
laws in modern times:

~"Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material," Lev. 19:19;
Kind of limits your cotton synthetic blends doesn't it Buck.

~"Make tassels on the four corners of the cloak you wear," Deut. 22:12).1
Don't tell me Buck... YOU DON'T HAVE TASSELS DO YOU???  Damn blasphemer!

~"The pig is also unclean; although it has a split hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat
their meat or touch their carcasses," Deut. 14:.
Buck can't eat pork chops, pork ribs, pork roasts, ham, or even TOUCH any pigskin... Football?

It seems that Christians like Buck,  adhere to some laws and ignore others? Which ones are valid and
which are not?
It would seem that some  Christians decide which Old Testament laws apply to them,
based on their politics... not their religion.





But OFC you know nothing about Christianity, let alone the Jewish faith. If you did, you would know that Christians follow the teachings of Jesus. I don't ever recall Jesus saying to stay away from pork or what type of clothing to wear.

And really, why do you care anyway. By your logic, we are nothing more than a random occurance of chemicals. If that is the case, then everything you do is meaningless, since nothing will effect the ultimate end of everything. When the universe finally ends nobody will be around to say that life ever existed.




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But OFC you know nothing about Christianity, let alone the Jewish faith. If you did, you would know that Christians follow the teachings of Jesus. I don't ever recall Jesus saying to stay away from pork or what type of clothing to wear.


Buck, your quote was about Jesus following the old testament...

Quoted Text
For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” (John 5:46-47.)

You made the case that Jesus followed Moses and the old testament, not I.  If Jesus followed Moses words
then he was subject to the old testament (Pork) etc laws.

Once again.  Jesus never condemned homosexuality.  And if Gay Marriage is acceptable for the CHRISTIAN
Episcopal Church,
it would appear you are in opposition to their teachings as well.
And... how did you put it...  "you know nothing about Christianity, let alone the Jewish faith.
If you did, you would know that Christians follow the teachings of Jesus."
  I would guess
that the Episcopal Church also follows the teachings of Jesus... You know 'Jesus'... the guy who
was so unconcerned about homosexuality,
that he never even mentioned it... Not once.


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And really, why do you care anyway. By your logic, we are nothing more than a random occurance of chemicals. If that is the case, then everything you do is meaningless, since nothing will effect the ultimate end of everything. When the universe finally ends nobody will be around to say that life ever existed.


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Yeah, he was 'neutral.' Jesus was 'neutral' on a lot of things. Only in the twisted world of a Marxist revisionary. In the context of today, it is not surprising that a madman would think that no one gave a notice to gay lifestyles then!


Jesus wasn't neutral.

Jesus said to love your enemy.

He said to love everyone.

He said to forgive, as he forgave the sins of everyone.

That sounds more like leave the issue alone.

God does the Judging, not you geniuses.

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