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Koch-Funded Study Finds ‘Global Warming Is Real’,
And ‘Essentially All’ Due To Carbon Pollution


Inappropriate appeal to authority

The arguer bases her argument on the authority of someone who does not in fact have authority in the issue at hand.



All Koch brothers funded public policy studies must be accurate then...

Koch funded CATO Institute does a lot of studies.  Take a look since you recognize the Koch Bros. as the gold standard of public policy studies.
http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/they-spend-what-real-cost-public-schools


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Oh, you mean the "TRUTH" in that ALEC Rock Youtube video?  No agenda there...


Where is Senders when I need his little comments...

"Divert Divert Divert!"

This thread is about Climate Change... changing the subject is also in your Fallacy of Argument
that I gave you.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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This thread is about Climate Change... changing the subject is also in your Fallacy of Argument
that I gave you.


Very good, it is called a strawman...You are very familiar with it.  But, you also changed the subject in the post prior with your ad hominem "grasshopper" post.  So I was using strawman against a strawman.


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Very good, it is called a strawman...You are very familiar with it.  But, you also changed the subject in the post prior with your ad hominem "grasshopper" post.  So I was using strawman against a strawman.


Instead of trying to "Win at all cost"... why not try to LEARN SOMETHING!

I learn a lot by reading Right Wing posts.  Sometimes it steers me to the truth... Mostly not.  Some times
it teaches me that what I assumed were intelligent people, are really morons.  

In keeping with the 'grasshopper' mode...
Nepali Lessons for life:
When you lose, don't lose the lesson!  (Learn from your mistakes)


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Instead of trying to "Win at all cost"... why not try to LEARN SOMETHING!


I know plenty about global warming.  I know that there are scientists that study it for a living that have conflicting EVIDENCE as to the cause of global warming.  I also know there is plenty of global warming propaganda put out by governments and corporations that would like to influence public opinion in order to change public policy.

There is nothing in this thread that contributes to "learning something".  It is filled with carefully crafted propaganda to push an agenda, NOT EDUCATE.


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I know plenty about global warming.  I know that there are scientists that study it for a living that have conflicting EVIDENCE as to the cause of global warming.  I also know there is plenty of global warming propaganda put out by governments and corporations that would like to influence public opinion in order to change public policy.

There is nothing in this thread that contributes to "learning something".  It is filled with carefully crafted propaganda to push an agenda, NOT EDUCATE.


Educating you is nearly impossible... look at how long  it took me to teach you how to find the flaws in
your own arguments...
Instead of trying to win... learn something from the experience.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Educating you is nearly impossible... look at how long  it took me to teach you how to find the flaws in
your own arguments... Instead of trying to win... learn something from the experience.


LOL...Yeah, show me the light box.  Post some more Thinkprogress "info".  


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Box V Ciero- Box takes the cake with this one. Ciero fails to show how or why the overwhelming majority of scientists believe this is man made, or why doing nothing about this will benefit us in the long run. Sure some scientists are frauds, but the ones claiming global warming is a hoax are the ones being funded by corporate interests that have a stake in this outcome. Box has used sound logic, and what appears to be unbiased information to form his conclusions.
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Box V Ciero- Box takes the cake with this one. Ciero fails to show how or why the overwhelming majority of scientists believe this is man made, or why doing nothing about this will benefit us in the long run. Sure some scientists are frauds, but the ones claiming global warming is a hoax are the ones being funded by corporate interests that have a stake in this outcome. Box has used sound logic, and what appears to be unbiased information to form his conclusions.



But according to Boxy, none of this matters anyway.




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Box V Ciero- Box takes the cake with this one. Ciero fails to show how or why the overwhelming majority of scientists believe this is man made, or why doing nothing about this will benefit us in the long run. Sure some scientists are frauds, but the ones claiming global warming is a hoax are the ones being funded by corporate interests that have a stake in this outcome. Box has used sound logic, and what appears to be unbiased information to form his conclusions.


LMAO!  You said box uses "unbiased" information.  

I didn't fail to show anything.  I was actually honest and showed that science hasn't proven MAN-MADE global warming, or global cooling, or climate change, or how ever they decide to repackage it to push the propaganda.  I never said what the cause of "climate change" was or picked sides.  I've clearly stated, that NOBODY can definitively and scientifically pinpoint the cause of global changes in climate.  THAT IS A FACT.


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LMAO!  You said box uses "unbiased" information.  

I didn't fail to show anything.  I was actually honest and showed that science hasn't proven MAN-MADE global warming, or global cooling, or climate change, or how ever they decide to repackage it to push the propaganda.  I never said what the cause of "climate change" was or picked sides.  I've clearly stated, that NOBODY can definitively and scientifically pinpoint the cause of global changes in climate.  THAT IS A FACT.


A Cicero FACT... In other words, his opinion.


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The world science community agrees on man-made climate change like the world religions agree on god.  Everybody claims to know the one and only truth.


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The world science community agrees on man-made climate change like the world religions agree on god.  Everybody claims to know the one and only truth.


Again, one topic is faith based,the other is science based.
One has no relation to the other.


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Again, one topic is faith based,the other is science based.
One has no relation to the other.


Was it science when a majority of scientists predicted the coming ice age?  It's kinda like gambling, if you hedge you bets and take both side, it is hard to lose.  


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Was it science when a majority of scientists predicted the coming ice age?  It's kinda like gambling, if you hedge you bets and take both side, it is hard to lose.  

There is no scientific doubt about climate change...only political doubt.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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