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There is no 'right' to get married. much like there is no 'right' to be issued a drivers license.


Stop listening to Sean Hannity...

Can a state deny a homosexual a drivers license?  Your argument is swiss cheese.  


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Stop listening to Sean Hannity...

Can a state deny a homosexual a drivers license?  Your argument is swiss cheese.  


Actually, Yes a state can deny a homosexual a drivers license.

But it won't be because of that person's sexual orientation. It will be because that person didn't meet the requirements, under that state's current law, to be issued said drivers license. Might be eyesight, hearing, mental status, or criminal history that disqualify an person from obtaining one.

When it comes to state law, 31 states say that the requirement of 'marriage' consists of a union between a man and a woman (male and female). If you meet this criteria, you shall be issued all the rights and privlages that goes with it.


My argument is totally valid. Look at the CONTEXT before shooting your mouth off because you made yourself look real stupid.

Thanks for playing.




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in NYS driving is a privilege that one must ascend to meeting it's requirements.....

marriage is a choice....either do it the religion-of-your-choice way or do it the government way.....as a matter of fact one can be secretly married only the
benefits of 'the state' wouldn't cover the sig-other....that's the only reason government even gets involved....

otherwise WHO CARES WHO GETS MARRIED.....it's like the extra tax on 'fat drinks'.....it's to change/manipulate the masses behavior.....slippery ground that
we've been entertaining for a generation now.....

1. patriot act
2. hate crimes
3. busters law

etc etc.......

marriage is fodder for the elect.....the real teeth are in the 'feel good' legislation.....it would be difficult to get that back and get the government out of Hitler business


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Quoted from BuckStrider

There is no 'right' to get married. much like there is no 'right' to be issued a drivers license.


Stop listening to Sean Hannity...

Can a state deny a homosexual a drivers license?  Your argument is swiss cheese.  


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Quoted from BuckStrider

There is no 'right' to get married. much like there is no 'right' to be issued a drivers license.


Stop listening to Sean Hannity...

Can a state deny a homosexual a drivers license?  Your argument is swiss cheese.  


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Actually, Yes a state can deny a homosexual a drivers license.

But it won't be because of that person's sexual orientation. It will be because that person didn't meet the requirements, under that state's current law, to be issued said drivers license. Might be eyesight, hearing, mental status, or criminal history that disqualify an person from obtaining one.

When it comes to state law, 31 states say that the requirement of 'marriage' consists of a union between a man and a woman (male and female). If you meet this criteria, you shall be issued all the rights and privlages that goes with it.


My argument is totally valid. Look at the CONTEXT before shooting your mouth off because you made yourself look real stupid.

Thanks for playing.


Man Buck, you fail again.  You are showing off you Rick Santorum BIG GOVERNMENT conservatism.  America can't have that radical individualism.

Buck are making an argument for 'separate but equal' marriage licensing.  As long as the majority passes a law excluding people from the license, that's ok?  They tried separate but equal in the south with black children and publics schools.  The difference is, marriage isn't a public government run institution, marriage is a personal ceremony(many times religious) between individuals.  This debate wouldn't even be happening if the government wasn't involved in licensing peoples personal relationships.  What is even more troublesome when the debate is between the left who wants to use the state to validate a relationship, and the neo-conservative right who wants to use the power of the state to deny recognition of a relationship.  Both sides of the argument are statists.  The left doesn't disguise their state controlled collectivism. The right does a better job disguising their state controlled collectivism. Either that, or many on the right are just to ignorant to realize it.

Answer - get government out of licensing ALL personal consensual relationships.  They are personal religious ceremonies for the most part, and the government has no legitimate roll in it.  


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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some folks either hetero/homo are 'married' even without the ceremony, for their entire lives....it's just that personal.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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ronnie wants to marry his goat.............does he need a license?
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ronnie wants to marry his goat.............does he need a license?


nope


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Quoted from 1251
ronnie wants to marry his goat.............does he need a license?


Why yes!  What if his goat gets hospitalized from a rough romp?  He wouldn't have the same visitation rights as a married couple.


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Why yes!  What if his goat gets hospitalized from a rough romp?  He wouldn't have the same visitation rights as a married couple.


of course!!! I should have realized that....
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ronnie wants to marry his goat.............does he need a license?


License aside, he needs to know that if he got the goat for the free milk(Lol), the doe(assuming he's marrying a female goat)needs to be serviced by a buck or she will stop giving milk. This would also suggest that he have a Mormon/Amish type wedding.

He should really consider a more traditional partner, like the highly recommended sheep.

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License aside, he needs to know that if he got the goat for the free milk(Lol), the doe(assuming he's marrying a female goat)needs to be serviced by a buck or she will stop giving milk. This would also suggest that he have a Mormon/Amish type wedding.

He should really consider a more traditional partner, like the highly recommended sheep.



well, judging from his internet viewing habits, I would assume his mate would have to be a young buck goat........................I had suggested sheep some time ago and learned that they are indeed scared......................the young buck goats on the other hand seem to relish his advances..............you do raise an interesting situation, as I have heard there may be more than one goat involved hence the issue of a Mormon wedding does need to be considered..............possibly a new reality show "Beastly Brides"  could be coming........
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