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Box A Rox
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YOU CAN'T VOTE UNLESS:
the masses are scared enough to get a RealID for healthcare/travel/trade/access.....
pay attention....the web being woven is worse than what I say....
I just added that those folks being used as fodder(poor, less than 1%ers) during election time, had better not take that
medicine off that spoon lest they lose themselves...
these folks are dressing up the diversion of voting access....

Do you live in this halacugenic world all by yourself Senders, or are there others in there with you?


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About 3 to 4 million voters affected by existing voter ID laws face enormous difficulties to get
to the polls, according to a new study by the Brennan Center for Justice.

The study says 1 in 10 voters in states with those laws – Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas,
Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Wisconsin – fall below the
federal poverty line and live more than 10 miles from the government office that issues identifications,
often without a vehicle.

“What we found really undercuts the claim by many proponents of these laws that eligible voters
can easily obtain an ID to vote,” one of the study’s authors, Keesha Gaskins, said at a Wednesday
press conference. “Our findings demonstrate that there will very likely be a significant number of
citizens who will struggle to obtain a photo ID due to structural barriers.”

The 10 states in question, the study says, are of particular importance in the 2012 presidential
election, since they will provide 127 electoral votes, nearly 50 percent of the 270 needed to win
the election.

The study says 500,000 eligible Latino voters and 1.2 million black voters live more than 10 miles
from the nearest office where they can get an ID, and in several states, Gaskins said, less
than half of those offices are open more than twice a week, and none of them are open
weekends.


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Pennsylvania Concedes In Voter ID Law Trial:
~ "No Evidence Voter Fraud Has Ever Occurred" ~
Pennsylvanians will be required to show government-issued photo identification in order to cast votes in
November, thanks to a GOP-supported voter ID law signed by Gov. Tom Corbett (R) earlier this year.
While supporters argued that it was a simple measure meant to combat voter fraud, figures released
this week show that the law may affect more than 750,000 Pennsylvanians who don't currently
possess identification cards issued by the state Department of Transportation.

The reason for the GOP voter law???
Ask Pennsylvania GOP House Majority Leader Mike Turzai, who didn't even pretend that the law was about
voter fraud... instead :
"Voter ID -- which is going to allow Gov. [Mitt] Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania -- done,"

According to frequently cited studies on voter fraud, there were a grand total of 13
"credible cases of in-person voter impersonation"
-- one of the types of fraud most
frequently targeted by voter ID champions -- recorded from 2000 to 2010.

As Comedy Central's Indecision blog points out, exploding toilets and deaths by television are far
more common.


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Greer denounces Florida GOP officials as liars & 'right-wing crazies'

For those who think that the Voter ID drive is about actual Voter Fraud... a nonexistent problem...
here is the real reason for the VOTER ID DRIVE... Voter Suppression by Republicans.

In a lawsuit filed against the Republican Party in Florida, former chairman Jim Greer said that party officials
discussed ways in which they could prevent blacks from voting, the Tampa Bay Times reports.

Greer alleged that party officials discussed suppressing the black vote in a December 2009 meeting.

Tampa Times
http://www.tampabay.com/news/p.....as-liars-and/1242157


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Author of Voter ID Law Admits to Racist Email

South Carolina state Rep. Alan Clemmons (R), the author of a voter ID law considered discriminatory
by the Justice Department, testified in federal court that, "while crafting the bill, he had responded
favorably to a friend's racist email in support of the measure," McClatchy reports.

An email from Ed Koziol said that if the legislature offered a reward for voter identification cards,
"it would be like a swarm of bees going after a watermelon."

Clemmons responded: "Amen, Ed, thank you for your support."

However, Clemmons testified that he did not remember giving out packets of peanuts with
cards that said "Stop Obama's nutty agenda and support voter ID."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/08/28/163886/sc-lawmaker-admits-positive-response.html


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oh,,,,lookie lookie.....a diversion as to the REAL reasons for voter ID.....

REAL ID FOR:

driving
passport
voting
healthcare
food purchases
internet access
etc etc....

IT HAS NOTHING to do with race....no matter what those a$$holes have a conversation about.....they just get their
views validated because they get to vote from with in....

meanwhile: us out here get to be divided...why? because we're all missing the big picture comrades


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Requiring a valid ID to prove that you are the person registered to vote is eminently sensible and reasonable.  Those who argue otherwise or worse are trying to play the "race card" on this issue are not only be disingenuous (fancy way of calling them liars) but causes the average reasonable American to question whether these folks should be trusted to even cut the high grass and weeds along our nation's interstate let alone serve in any elected office.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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Requiring a valid ID to prove that you are the person registered to vote is eminently sensible and reasonable.  Those who argue otherwise or worse are trying to play the "race card" on this issue are not only be disingenuous (fancy way of calling them liars) but causes the average reasonable American to question whether these folks should be trusted to even cut the high grass and weeds along our nation's interstate let alone serve in any elected office.


If it's a reasonable  and sensible thing to do... then please... Lets register ALL Republicans.  We'lll start
today, a few months before election.  We know that there will be big lines at the registrars and that it
will be inconvenient for those Republicans who are handicapped, or poor or those who live in rural
areas and don't have access to transportation... but we don't care.

If it's a good idea for Democrats to get a Voter ID... then please Republicans, show us the way.  
NO Republican Voters in November Unless they all have a new Voter ID!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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BIGGER PICTURE HERE FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

show me your papers/your bank account/your FB profile/your grocery list/your medical record/your driving record/your tax returns

etc etc etc etc.....

P.S.. SHOW ME YOUR DONATIONS TO THOSE LESS OFF THAN YOU


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Democracy Wins!

A federal judge has said the he will permanently remove recently enacted voter registration restrictions in
the state of Florida.  Judge Robert L. Hinkle has declared that he will grant a motion to permanently strike
down the new rules once the state of Florida has dropped its case against the federal government in U.S.
appeals court.


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You have to show an ID to cash a check, drive a car, fly on a plane, obtain access to work locations, by alcohol, by tobacco products, and many other things we do but in the Democratic mind we shouldn't need to show an ID to vote. The poor, who Box claims, will not be able to secure and ID to vote don't seem to have any problem getting an ID when it come to obtaining low rent housing, welfare, Medicaid, or unemployment but would not be able to obtain ID to vote. It would appear to me the only reason to not obtain an ID to vote would be to enable a person who doesn't have the right to vote the ability to vote illegally as in the case of immigrants who are not citizens of the USA.  
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Don't worry about voter supression.  Don't vote, don't consent to the fraud.


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You have to show an ID to cash a check, drive a car, fly on a plane, obtain access to work locations, by alcohol, by tobacco products, and many other things we do but in the Democratic mind we shouldn't need to show an ID to vote. The poor, who Box claims, will not be able to secure and ID to vote don't seem to have any problem getting an ID when it come to obtaining low rent housing, welfare, Medicaid, or unemployment but would not be able to obtain ID to vote. It would appear to me the only reason to not obtain an ID to vote would be to enable a person who doesn't have the right to vote the ability to vote illegally as in the case of immigrants who are not citizens of the USA.  


Great Idea Shadow:
Lets register ALL Republicans first now, then the Democrats in December.
We'lll start today, a few months before election.  We know that there will be big lines at the
registrars and that itwill be inconvenient for those Republicans who are handicapped, or poor
or those who live in rural areas and don't have access to transportation... but we don't care.

If it's a good idea for Democrats to get a Voter ID... then please Republicans, show us the way.  
NO Republican Voters in November Unless they all have a new Voter ID!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Most Republicans already have ID as it's necessary to have one when you cash checks and the Reps are the ones working so they have checks to cash. As I said the poor sure don't have any trouble getting ID to get welfare, unemployment, food stamps, health-care, Medicaid, or low rent housing so it should not be too much trouble for them to get ID to vote.
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Most Republicans already have ID as it's necessary to have one when you cash checks and the Reps are the ones working so they have checks to cash. As I said the poor sure don't have any trouble getting ID to get welfare, unemployment, food stamps, health-care, Medicaid, or low rent housing so it should not be too much trouble for them to get ID to vote.


Great!  Then there is no problem with my plan.  All Republicans will be required to show a valid ID to vote.
No ID no vote.  If the system works well for Republicans this November, then in December Democrats will
also be required to get Voter ID's.



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