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It's Bush's fault.
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Quoted from Shadow
It's Bush's fault.


Actually you're right... It is!
With out the 'Bush Economic Meltdown', Obama's stimulus would have been unnecessary


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I guess sooner or later after Obama has been King for 20 years he may have to start accepting some responsibility for the things he has done and become an adult.
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I guess sooner or later after Obama has been King for 20 years he may have to start accepting some responsibility for the things he has done and become an adult.


See below... Obama taking responsibility for the things he has done!



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I love the "saved the world from financial collapse" and "Has the Arab League watching Syria".  Those are too funny...You have a great sense of humor box.


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It's easy for Obama to be a success in the eyes of the American people... just show them his predecessor!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Obama also was the first president that forced our bond ratings to drop. Obama created more debt than all the presidents before him. Obama stopped deporting illegal immigrants and some have gone on to committ murder. Treasury dept says that ther taxpayer is not going to recoup all the money given out during the bailouts, Solyndra for one. Obama took money away from GM bond holders and gave it to his union cronies. When his jobs figures were proved to be inaccurate the administration changed the terms to created or saved jobs a phrase which can't be proved or disproved. He has told more lies than Clinton ever did.
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Obama also was the first president that forced our bond ratings to drop. Obama created more debt than all the presidents before him. Obama stopped deporting illegal immigrants and some have gone on to committ murder. Treasury dept says that ther taxpayer is not going to recoup all the money given out during the bailouts, Solyndra for one. Obama took money away from GM bond holders and gave it to his union cronies. When his jobs figures were proved to be inaccurate the administration changed the terms to created or saved jobs a phrase which can't be proved or disproved. He has told more lies than Clinton ever did.


Shadow... why don't  you Fact Check your OPINIONS before you post them as fact.  Saying it doesn't make it so.  


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Which facts are wrong Box and I'll post it for you.
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Obama also was the first president that forced our bond ratings to drop. Obama created more debt than all the presidents before him. .


Most of the current deficit and projected deficits can be attributed to a decrease in revenue due to the economic downturn, as well as policies already in place when Obama took office.


CBO Projected $1.2T Deficit In January 2009 Based On Spending Bush Authorized; Actual Deficit Was $1.4T. In a January 7, 2009, report, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projected, based on spending authorized under the Bush administration, that the federal deficit in FY2009 would total $1.2 trillion. According to the CBO, the actual federal deficit for FY2009, which began during the Bush's last year in office, was $1.4 trillion.

"Single Most Important [Cause Of The Deficit] Is The Legacy Of President George W. Bush's Legislative Agenda." In an August 2009 analysis, the Center for American Progress (CAP) concluded that about two-thirds of the then-projected budget deterioration for 2009 and 2010 could be attributed to either Bush's policies or the economic downturn.



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Our bond rating dropped from AAA to AA under Obama, fact.
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Latest Congressional Budget Outlook For 2012-2022 Released, Says Real Unemployment Rate Is 10%
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Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/31/2012 10:30 -
What do the NAR, Consumer Confidence and CBO forecasts have in common? If you said, "they are all completely worthless" you are absolutely correct. Alas, the market needs to "trade" off numbers, which is why the just released CBO numbers apparently are important... And the fact that the CBO predicted negative $2.5 trillion in net debt by 2011 back in 2011 is largely ignored. Anyway, here are some of the highlights.

    2012 Deficit: $1.1 trillion; 2013 Deficit: $0.6 - yes, we are cackling like mad too...
    Unemployment to remain above 8% in 2012 and 2013; will be around 7% by end of 2015; to drop to 5.25% by end of 2022.
        This forecast is utterly idiotic and is completely unattainable unless the US workforce drops to all time lows and the US economy generates 300,000 jobs a month for 10 years
    Needless to say, CBO assumes the best of all worlds in this meaningless forecast
    But here is the kicker: "Had that portion of the decline in the labor force participation rate since 2007 that is attributable to neither the aging of the baby boomers nor the downturn in the business cycle (on the basis of the experience in previous downturns) not occurred, the unemployment rate in the fourth quarter of 2011 would have been about 1¼ percentage points higher than the actual rate of 8.7 percent" translation: CBO just admitted that the BLS numbers are bogus and real unemployment is 10%. Thank you
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Obama stopped deporting illegal immigrants ..


(Reuters Tue Sep 20, 201 )
President Barack Obama says he backs immigration reform, announcing last month an initiative to ease deportation
policies, but he has sent home over 1 million illegal immigrants in 2-1/2 years -- on pace to deport more in one term
than George W. Bush did in two
.

The Obama administration had deported about 1.06 million as of September 12, against 1.57 million in Bush's two
full presidential terms (8 Years).


Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/20/us-obama-immigration-idUSTRE78J05720110920


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Obama Stops Deportations of Illegal Immigrants
August 18, 2011 | Filed under Obama Regime | Posted by Rodney Graves

Who knew we elected an Emperor?

    New DHS rules cancel deportations

    By Stephen Dinan |The Washington Times

    The Homeland Security Department said Thursday it will halt deportation proceedings on a case-by-case basis against illegal immigrants who meet certain criteria such as attending school, having family in the military or are primarily responsible for other family members’ care.

    The move, announced in letters to Congress, won immediate praise from Hispanic activists and Democrats who had chided President Obama for months for the pace of deportations and had argued he had authority to exempt broad swaths of illegal immigrants from deportation.

    “Today’s announcement shows that this president is willing to put muscle behind his words and to use his power to intervene when the lives of good people are being ruined by bad laws,” said Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez, Illinois Democrat.
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Our bond rating dropped from AAA to AA under Obama, fact.


Yes Shadow... THAT IS A FACT... BUT THAT ISN'T WHAT YOU POSTED!
Your post:
Obama also was the first president that FORCED our bond ratings to drop. What ever president who took
office in 2009 had those conditions already in place.  Obama didn't FORCE (as you put it) the ratings drop.


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