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Workers at a Sitel call center in Asheville, N.C., are attempting to organize a union under the banner of the
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers to fight unfair conditions.

The workers, mostly female, complained that they were being unfairly disciplined for bathroom breaks when the
facility doesn't have enough restrooms to accommodate the size of the workforce, with one bathroom serving
nearly 200 women.
Women waiting in line too long to use the bathroom were being punished, including a system
where the cumulative punishments harmed their chances of obtaining promotions and pay raises.

Their company handbook informs workers that they are employed “at will,” that Sitel is a “union-free” company
and “desires to stay that way.”

The rest of the story:
http://www.ibew.org/articles/12daily/1201/120106_Sitel.htm





The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Workers at a Sitel call center in Asheville, N.C., are attempting to organize a union under the banner of the
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers to fight unfair conditions.

The workers, mostly female, complained that they were being unfairly disciplined for bathroom breaks when the
facility doesn't have enough restrooms to accommodate the size of the workforce, with one bathroom serving
nearly 200 women.
Women waiting in line too long to use the bathroom were being punished, including a system
where the cumulative punishments harmed their chances of obtaining promotions and pay raises.

Their company handbook informs workers that they are employed “at will,” that Sitel is a “union-free” company
and “desires to stay that way.”

The rest of the story:
http://www.ibew.org/articles/12daily/1201/120106_Sitel.htm




If NC had stronger building codes and labor laws, a union would not be needed for this.
Manufacturers migrated from the north to the south because of bloated union overhead and Benes.
Will they now migrate from the South to offshore?


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If NC had stronger building codes and labor laws, a union would not be needed for this.
Manufacturers migrated from the north to the south because of bloated union overhead and Benes.
Will they now migrate from the South to offshore?


HUH! You seem to be describing the desired results of unregulated capitalism.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Unions have done much to improve working conditions in America -- but obviously the nayboobs never studied American history  and the POSITIVE role of labor unions.   It just ceases to amaze me that these folks claim to be such wonderful Americans but they don't know squat about American history*.


* and i mean REAL, FACTUAL American history .. not the stuff that Ron Paul and Sarah Palin and the other right wing kooks made up while at some  libertarian pot-smoking, moose-jerky eating fundraiser to elect some bizarre fringe candidate


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HUH! You seem to be describing the desired results of unregulated capitalism.


Businesses are in business to make money. If they can make more money by going offshore, they will do it. How will regulation help that? Unless regulation really means isolation. When this started happening, you could have instituted import tariffs, but that horse as left the barn. Most American manufacturers that are left, rely heavily on imports. Even Harley-Davidson, the all-american brand, assembles bikes with electronics and forks made in Japan, and coming soon, wheels made in China.


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Unions have done much to improve working conditions in America -- but obviously the nayboobs never studied American history  and the POSITIVE role of labor unions.   It just ceases to amaze me that these folks claim to be such wonderful Americans but they don't know squat about American history.


PAST TENSE... for the most part today, they are nothing more than bloated shadows of their past.
They spend of most of their time making sure people that should be fired, aren't.


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PAST TENSE... for the most part today, they are nothing more than bloated shadows of their past.
They spend of most of their time making sure people that should be fired, aren't.


Amazing how little some people know about the things that directly benefit them.

They won't know what they've got, until they lose it.



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If they wanted they could just go around pissing in garbage cans and leaving feminine hygiene products around.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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LOL!!!

OMG I just clicked that link and what's the first paragraph in bold type right in your face....

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On Thanksgiving, as thousands of citizens in the Occupy movement gathered in cities across the U.S. to turn public attention to the deep chasm between the 99 percent and the 1 percent, a group of workers at a call center in North Carolina operated by a highly-profitable global corporation summoned the courage to launch their own struggle for dignity and fairness


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Amazing how little some people know about the things that directly benefit them.

They won't know what they've got, until they lose it.



I acknowledge what unions have done in the past and thank them for it.
But Unions today, especially public unions, are a hindrance to progress as the number of members of a specific union is of primary importance and  trumps anything else.


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Unions had their day when america was actually and industrialized nation. Now it is now nothing more than a third world service nation!  There is very little opportunity to 'get rich' off the land since there are no more good paying industrial jobs since the unions over priced themselves!!!

So now the unions are trying to unionize anything that will receive a paycheck!

If anyone knows folks that are in the 'upper level' of unions will honestly tell you that the unions are CORRUPT!! Stories that would make your toes curl!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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If anyone knows folks that are in the 'upper level' of unions will honestly tell you that the unions are CORRUPT!! Stories that would make your toes curl!!


Mertzie -- a lot of people said the same thing about you and the administration that you were a part of, too


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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LOL!!!

OMG I just clicked that link and what's the first paragraph in bold type right in your face....


You should have read the rest... you may have learned something.


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So a business is purposely limiting the number of bathrooms for their employees causing their employees to stand in line outside of the production area and lose productivity?  This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  I wonder what else this employer does to purposely make their labor less productive.  This is less of a labor issue and more of an efficiency issue.  


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So a business is purposely limiting the number of bathrooms for their employees causing their employees to stand in line outside of the production area and lose productivity?  This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  I wonder what else this employer does to purposely make their labor less productive.  This is less of a labor issue and more of an efficiency issue.  


poorly run companies as do well run companies trickle down from the top.....how ever if labor is given respect to perform to the best of their ability(maybe also finding not the job for them) then
NO UNION NEEDED.....I certainly dont want to work with sandbaggers....it's hard to toss them over the side of the ship when the union is in house....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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