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It's pretty plain simple here folks. Even a monkey could figure this one out.

If the rich are paying a lower tax rate then the rest of us slobs........then keep theirs where they are and just lower the tax rate for us slobs!!!!

Keep the tax rate for the rich the same......and just lower mine!

It would be a win-win!!!!!!!!!!!


The only problem is that the government won't do that, as they think that it will give them less to spend, and they wouldn't have that.  In fact, by lowering the tax rate, they would have MORE to spend, they just can't figure it out.


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Obama’s tax hike patriotism
Wrapping the flag around big-government excess isn’t going to work

By THE WASHINGTON TIMES-The Washington Times Friday, April 13, 2012

Vice President Joe Biden says paying higher taxes is patriotic. He must have forgotten that America was founded on a tax revolt.

While pitching the Obama administration’s plan on Thursday to boost the burden on upper-income groups, Mr. Biden said, “Wealthy people are just as patriotic as middle-class people, as poor people, and they know they should be doing more.” This skewed take on patriotism was quickly retweeted by the White House. The message fits with the shameful class-warfare appeals that claim tax hikes are needed to keep firefighters on the job or pay for Pell grants. More accurately, they’re needed to underwrite $200,000 in stimulus money to move a shrub or to bankroll yet another failed “green energy” project.

“We’re not supposed to have a system with one set of rules for the wealthy and one set of rules for everyone else,” said Mr. Biden. Yet that’s exactly what the White House wants. The administration’s fiscal 2013 budget proposal included $2.1 trillion in new taxes over 10 years that are aimed at upper-income groups and those who rely on dividend income. The top 10 percent of income earners already pay about 50 percent of all federal, state and local taxes. The next 40 percent pay most of the rest, and the bottom half pay next to nothing. President Obama continually uses the word “fairness” to justify gobbling up more of the public’s money, but if he were truly interested in being equitable he would seek ways to lower the overwhelming tax burden being carried by the middle class and above. Put another way, he would be talking about cutting his secretary’s effective tax rate down to the 20 percent rate that he pays. That would be real patriotism......................>>>>.......................>>>>......................http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/13/obamas-tax-hike-patriotism/
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Why not have a fair tax where everyone pays taxes based on income and nobody is exempt or a consumption tax where everyone will pay taxes based on what they purchase, no more free ride.
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Why not have a fair tax where everyone pays taxes based on income and nobody is exempt or a consumption tax where everyone will pay taxes based on what they purchase, no more free ride.


you mean LOGIC?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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"Private wealth creation, requires public investment..."



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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MORE AMERICANS THINK THEIR TAXES ARE ‘ABOUT RIGHT’ THAN THINK THEY ARE TOO HIGH

Gallup



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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"Private wealth creation, requires public investment..."


So if all private industry stopped producing where would the public investment come from?  Public investment doesn't require a HUGE central government.  Private industry would develop the infrastructure necessary to bring their product to market WITHOUT the federal government.  


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So if all private industry stopped producing where would the public investment come from?  Public investment doesn't require a HUGE central government. Private industry would develop the infrastructure necessary to bring their product to market WITHOUT the federal government.


Do you really think that private industry would build a bridge to ship their products out of their own pockets???
They'd build the Port of Albany, to ship their goods overseas???
They'd build a clean water supply and sewer system for their offices???
They'd provide their own police, and fire protection... their own schools and colleges???

Yea, that's what I thought.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Yeah...Airports were built before the Wright Brothers built the airplane...Paved roads were built before Ford mass produced the automobile...Ports were built before the Cargo Ship...Sewers were built before indoor plumbing and the septic system...Train tracks were laid before the steam engine...Without Government to lay down the infrastructure for these great inventions, America would have never experienced the miracle of modern society.

Government works at the leisure of the producers, NOT the other way around.

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Do you really think that private industry would build a bridge to ship their products out of their own pockets???


This is the funniest quote.  Where does the government get their money?   The printing press?  You are proof that many Americans suffer from a form of macroeconomic retardation.  


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Yeah...Airports were built before the Wright Brothers built the airplane...Paved roads were built before Ford mass produced the automobile...Ports were built before the Cargo Ship...Sewers were built before indoor plumbing and the septic system...Train tracks were laid before the steam engine...Without Government to lay down the infrastructure for these great inventions, America would have never experienced the miracle of modern society.

Government works at the leisure of the producers, NOT the other way around.



This is the funniest quote.  Where does the government get their money?   The printing press?  You are proof that many Americans suffer from a form of macroeconomic retardation.  


Good post cic!!


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Buffett Rule Vote: Tax Measure Fails In Senate
Posted: 04/16/2012 6:44 pm Updated: 04/16/2012 7:16 pm

WASHINGTON -- Democrats' attempt to pass a Buffett Rule tax on the super wealthy failed Monday in the Senate, as Republicans blocked the measure in a sharply partisan debate.

Democrats cast it as a bid for fairness that would end the circumstance in which billionaires like Warren Buffett pay a lower percentage of their income in taxes than their secretaries.

Republicans cast it as a political gimmick and an attempt by President Barack Obama to give more Americans a "free ride."

It was blocked 51-45 in a filibuster vote. Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine and Democratic Sen. Mark Pryor of Arkansas were the only politicians to cross party lines........................>>>>......................>>>>.....................http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/16/buffett-rule-vote-fails-senate_n_1429657.html
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OF COURSE IT'S A GIMMICK.....

HEEEEELLLLLLO PEOPLE.....TAKE A LOOK AT SWEDEN AND MICROSOFT POINTS.....it's a cyborg system


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Warren Buffet  to Republicans..".hurry up and pay your fair share before you get a bad doctor report and actually have to participate in national healthcare like those other
schmucks who call themselves the 99%'ers."


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The middle class taxes need to be lowered....then the wealthy will be paying more.......it's a win-win!!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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The middle class taxes need to be lowered....then the wealthy will be paying more.......it's a win-win!!!!


Lowering of any tax rate is a good idea in my book.

Corporations pay far less taxes than private citizens do. They pay only on net profit. Private citizens make near zero net profit. This system favors the corporations over private citizens. Corporations should be paying sales tax on all purchases, the same as the rest of us. I know, you are going to say the tax ends up getting paid by the consumer. While that is true, the corporation contributed nothing.

When a citizen buys a car he pays sales tax. When he sells it the new owner pays more tax. This is repeated for the life of a vehicle with the state ending up in many cases getting more in sales taxes than the original purchase price of the vehicle.

Sales tax should apply to manufacturers, corporations and wholesalers, as well as the general public. Corporations should not be treated any differently under the law than the general public. Sure the increased costs would be passed on to the consumers, but their state income tax rate would plummet. The corporations near nonexistent income tax would barely change.

We have a right to be treated equally under the law. Corporation included.

End corporate welfare by requiring them to follow the same tax rules as everyone else.

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