In other words... you have nothing. Move along folks.
that IS my offer.... a challenge of their education that I paid for that they should be using......don't make me use my public education knowledge.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Well, we've been waiting to see any signs of one. So far, it's been like trying to catch a glimpse of a Sasquatch.
There are not a lot of Sasquatch...We don't have to worry about an over population of Sasquatch...They must have a very effective Planned Parenthood teaching them about sex. I think Sasquatch's originated "outercourse", that's why Sasquatch are so rare.
CLIFTON PARK Abstinence advocates keep fighting Group of parents demands changes to curriculum BY TATIANA ZARNOWSKI Gazette Reporter
Parents asking for abstinencebased sex education at the Shenendehowa school district continue to push their position, even after the district has severed its relationship the parents objected to with Planned Parenthood. To them, the issue isn’t even about Planned Parenthood Mohawk Hudson anymore but is about the district’s health curriculum, which the parents say assumes many teens will have sex and advises them on condom use and birth control methods. That teaching promotes sex and puts teens at risk for developing sexually transmitted diseases, said Maureen Silfer of Halfmoon, whose daughter took the district’s sex education unit last year as a senior. Abstinence education isn’t a “just say no” approach to sex, Silfer said. “We need to really dispel that myth.” She noted that schools already teach and expect children to stay away from drugs and alcohol for their own health and should employ the same tools when teaching about sex, since the disease risks can affect the rest of their lives. “Why are we so cynical? Why do we think they can’t make that choice?” she said of maintaining abstinence. The group of parents known as the Shen Parents’ Choice Coalition wants the district to change its health curriculum to an abstinencebased model, also called sexual risk avoidance, encouraging teens to think about what is important to them and whether having sex now will help them achieve it. “It’s coming from them, too, so it doesn’t feel like it’s forced on them,” Silfer said. District spokeswoman Kelly De-Feciani said the district is reconvening a health advisory committee to examine the sex education curriculum, which is taught as a 10-day unit during eighth-grade health class and again in either 11th or 12th grade. The committee will be meeting over the next few months and is expected to present recommendations to the superintendent before the end of the school year, she said. The group is made up of parents, health teachers and administrators. “The district has taken great care to include people who represent both sides of the issue and are knowledgeable in health education,” DeFeciani said in an email. However, she said the district already teaches abstinence, along with facts about birth control and sexually transmitted diseases, as required by the state standards. Silfer, who will serve on the committee, hopes the district will change its program for next year. The group of Shen parents also disputes certain figures given to students, including numbers they say exaggerate the effectiveness of condoms for HIV protection. But the committee re-evaluating the sex education curriculum won’t get into that much detail, DeFeciani said. “The council’s just going to be looking at how the curriculum is handled in general,” she said. “We follow exactly what the state curriculum is.” Silfer touted the abstinencebased model as being positive for students, saying that children who have been through such programs have fewer life sex partners and if they do choose to have sex as teens are more likely to use a condom than teens who went through a sexual risk reduction program like the kind taught in most schools. “What are the negatives of this?” Silfer said. “I honestly can’t see anything.” At a school board meeting earlier this month, critics of the parents said they were sticking their heads in the sand, but that’s not the case, said a former abstinence educator who has been working with the group. “That’s so far from the truth,” said Laura Conklin of Ballston Spa, who taught abstinence-based sex education in northern New Jersey before moving to the area. Conklin presented part of her program to the Shenendehowa parents at a meeting Saturday. “No information has been withheld” in the classes, she said. “I tell [teens] all the time that these are your decisions to make.” Conklin said an abstinence-based model presents more hard data to students than the program currently being taught in schools. For example, she said teen girls are particularly at risk for contracting sexually transmitted diseases because their bodies aren’t mature yet. “A girl’s cervix when she’s 15 is like a wet sponge,” Conklin said. In addition, people can get cancer years down the road from sexually transmitted HPV, even from oral sex. The abstinence-based program also examines the emotional and psychological implications of having sex early, she said. “Sex is not just a physical act. There are chemical changes that happen in a person’s mind.” Having short-term sexual relationships and hookups teaches the mind that’s the norm and doesn’t help a person strengthen communication skills, build trust or make commitments, Conklin said. Silfer said she didn’t know Planned Parenthood would be teaching part of her daughter’s health class before her daughter, who is now in college, took it as a senior last spring. “She just came home one day and said, ‘Oh, you’re going to love this, Mom,’ ” Silfer said. “Honestly, I was very shocked. ... I wasn’t expecting to find out after the fact.” The family’s former school district in Pittsfield, Mass., would have sent home a letter outlining the curriculum and how to opt out of it, she said. But she said Shenendehowa didn’t. .........................>>>>.........................>>>>...........................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01101&AppName=1
She noted that schools already teach and expect children to stay away from drugs and alcohol for their own health and should employ the same tools when teaching about sex, since the disease risks can affect the rest of their lives. “Why are we so cynical? Why do we think they can’t make that choice?” she said of maintaining abstinence.
Religious Zealots are persistent to the point of being burned at the stake for their fanaticism...
Fanatics are entitled to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to inflict their agenda on the rest of us.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Religious Zealots are persistent to the point of being burned at the stake for their fanaticism...
Fanatics are entitled to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to inflict their agenda on the rest of us.
Fanatics...Hahahaha!!! You're funny. I think you zeal for teaching somebody elses child about sexual behavior is MUCH MORE fanatical.
Left wingers love using buzz words like religous zealot, fanatic, and extremist when they can no longer argue on merit. Box has been reduced to demagoguing.
Box, your emotional involvement in teenage sexual behavior makes you a bit of a zealot.
Fanatics...Hahahaha!!! You're funny. I think you zeal for teaching somebody elses child about sexual behavior is MUCH MORE fanatical.
Left wingers love using buzz words like religous zealot, fanatic, and extremist when they can no longer argue on merit. Box has been reduced to demagoguing.
Box, your emotional involvement in teenage sexual behavior makes you a bit of a zealot.
To quote Margaret Thatcher on "personal attacks"..
I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left. Margaret Thatcher
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
There are some points here, which should be universal.
Underage drinking and drug use are illegal.
Underage sex with a minor is also illegal.
Why isn't this being taught and I'm not taking this from a 'religious' standpoint, but from reality. Having sex with a minor - you can be a convicted sex offender. LETS TEACH THAT!!!
To quote Margaret Thatcher on "personal attacks"..
I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left. Margaret Thatcher
Yes, like calling people "zealots", and "fanatics", or "racists", or "homophobes", or "islamaphobes". Thanks for reaffirming my last post about your argument.
Cicero has such a limited grip on the English language:
zealot noun 1. a person who shows zeal. 2. an excessively zealous person; fanatic. 3. an immoderate, fanatical, or extremely zealous adherent to a cause, esp a religious one
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)
Margaret Sanger (1883-1966) On blacks, immigrants and indigents: "...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people
On sterilization & racial purification: Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial "purification," couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.
On the right of married couples to bear children: Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review, April 1932
On the purpose of birth control: The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities: "More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12
On religious convictions regarding sex outside of marriage: "This book aims to answer the needs expressed in thousands on thousands of letters to me in the solution of marriage problems... Knowledge of sex truths frankly and plainly presented cannot possibly injure healthy, normal, young minds. Concealment, suppression, futile attempts to veil the unveilable - these work injury, as they seldom succeed and only render those who indulge in them ridiculous. For myself, I have full confidence in the cleanliness, the open-mindedness, the promise of the younger generation." Margaret Sanger, Happiness in Marriage (Bretano's, New York, 1927)
On the extermination of blacks: "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon
On respecting the rights of the mentally ill: In her "Plan for Peace," Sanger outlined her strategy for eradication of those she deemed "feebleminded." Among the steps included in her evil scheme were immigration restrictions; compulsory sterilization; segregation to a lifetime of farm work; etc. Birth Control Review, April 1932, p. 107
On adultery: A woman's physical satisfaction was more important than any marriage vow, Sanger believed. Birth Control in America, p. 11
On marital sex: "The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order," Sanger said. (p. 23) [Quite the opposite of God's view on the matter: "Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled; but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." (Hebrews 13:4)
On abortion: "Criminal' abortions arise from a perverted sex relationship under the stress of economic necessity, and their greatest frequency is among married women." The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On the YMCA and YWCA: "...brothels of the Spirit and morgues of Freedom!"), The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On the Catholic Church's view of contraception: "...enforce SUBJUGATION by TURNING WOMAN INTO A MERE INCUBATOR." The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On motherhood: "I cannot refrain from saying that women must come to recognize there is some function of womanhood other than being a child-bearing machine." What Every Girl Should Know, by Margaret Sanger (Max Maisel, Publisher, 1915) [Jesus said: "Daughters of Jerusalem, weep... for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in which they shall say, Blessed (happy) are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the breasts which never gave suck." (Luke 23:24)]
Cicero has such a limited grip on the English language:
zealot noun 1. a person who shows zeal. 2. an excessively zealous person; fanatic. 3. an immoderate, fanatical, or extremely zealous adherent to a cause, esp a religious one
Thanks...
I will put you under #3. Your fanatical and zealous cause of forcing the states and planned parenthoods teaching of sexual behavior onto teenagers. The state is your church, their teachings are devine.
You and bob have shown a lot of zeal in your defense of forced state sex ed and planned parenthoods access to the public classroom.
When you believe you own the definition of moderation, anybody that disagrees can be called a zealot. It's a funny game.
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